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Yesterday, 05:36 PM
#1201
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by ynot
Harris has agreed to be interviewed.
She will not do it live.
She will not do it alone. Her man (questionable) Tim has to hold her hand.
What does that say about her. The next president...... Joke.
And now shes backtracking saying she will build a WALL !!!!! Clueless.
Meanwhile Harris has had her 1st interview since her presidential nomination.
She rattled on about instigating and making changes to various key points if she wins the election, none of which she or Biden have addressed in their current term. All talk and no action.
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Yesterday, 07:42 PM
#1202
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by iceman
A typical personal abuse post from you and not worth answering. You constantly talk about people you disagree with as being either dumb, ill informed, conspiracy theorists etc etc.
Get off your high horse.
Please point out the personal abuse in my post?
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Yesterday, 07:55 PM
#1203
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by davflaws
Who was POTUS at the time? -- TRUMP!
Who was AG at the time? -- BARR!
What had this to do with the Democrats? -- NOTHING!
Why was the FBI acting in the manner that it did? The same FBI alleging Russian disinformation as it did around the 2016 election. That source has been tracked back to Hillary Clinton's office. Why is the FBI doing the bidding of Clinton or showing any skew towards the Democrats? Why wasn't Hunter Biden's and the wider Biden family's corrupt practises looked at without bias? What expertise did Hunter have to serve on Eastern European energy companies? Why did the mayor of Moscow's wife give money to the Bidens? Why did MSM dismiss the laptop story as fabrication? The NY Post was about the only outlet to stay on it.
So much for the integrity of the NY Times and The Washington Post. Same two assured us Biden was fit for a second term, as did Kamala Harris.
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Yesterday, 08:43 PM
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by jonu
Why was the FBI acting in the manner that it did? The same FBI alleging Russian disinformation as it did around the 2016 election. That source has been tracked back to Hillary Clinton's office. Why is the FBI doing the bidding of Clinton or showing any skew towards the Democrats? Why wasn't Hunter Biden's and the wider Biden family's corrupt practises looked at without bias? What expertise did Hunter have to serve on Eastern European energy companies? Why did the mayor of Moscow's wife give money to the Bidens? Why did MSM dismiss the laptop story as fabrication? The NY Post was about the only outlet to stay on it.
So much for the integrity of the NY Times and The Washington Post. Same two assured us Biden was fit for a second term, as did Kamala Harris.
The FBI have said why because of previous Russian interference. How many times does that need to be said before you stop ignoring it.
You also ignore that the NY Post is owned by Murdoch who has a history of trying to influence elections. For many years in the UK if a PM candidate didn't get Rupert's nod of approval he would set his media empire on you.
The laptop copy & it was a copy that makes a significant difference as it could have been tampered with, was supplied to the NY Post by Giuliani. Again strange how you don't mention that.
Many other publications didn't run with the story as they questioned it's veracity, in fact the NY Post became the story due to its lack of vetting and fact checking.
But hey these are just reasonable questions and anyone reasonable and with an open mind would ask. Strange that none of your posts mention any of this....
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Yesterday, 10:00 PM
#1205
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by jonu
Why was the FBI acting in the manner that it did? The same FBI alleging Russian disinformation as it did around the 2016 election. That source has been tracked back to Hillary Clinton's office.
The FBI acted as it did because it had very good evidence that Russia had massively interfered in the 2016 election on behalf of Trump. Their concern was well justified, and had no connection with Hilary Clinton.
The Republican led and controlled Senate Committee Report on Russian interference in the 2016 Election was damning. Do you accept the conclusions?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...16-us-election
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Yesterday, 11:13 PM
#1206
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by davflaws
The FBI acted as it did because it had very good evidence that Russia had massively interfered in the 2016 election on behalf of Trump. Their concern was well justified, and had no connection with Hilary Clinton.
The Republican led and controlled Senate Committee Report on Russian interference in the 2016 Election was damning. Do you accept the conclusions?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...16-us-election
The report says it purposely didn't make any final conclusions. Certainly does not look good for campaign managers to meet with possible intelligence people, but if the information given was only internal polling it's not what you would call damning. He was however a campaign manager, not the FBI being partisan. The report also criticises the FBI for its biased handling of the Steele dossier which alleged the Russian connection. Steele's work was financed by the Democrats, hence the connection to Clinton's office.
Who would you expect to be dealing in information in an election campaign? A campaign manager or the FBI? Sounds like a hot mess of corruption.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by ynot
She rattled on about instigating and making changes to various key points if she wins the election, none of which she or Biden have addressed in their current term. All talk and no action.
We all know Mike Pence had a key role in the first Trump term.. give me a break.
Neither Mike or Kamala have much influence in what went on.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Bjauck
I agree that it is quite a revealing and shocking revelation from Zuckerberg - for me anyway. I admit that I had previously been more sceptical that there was such collusion.
Media owners voluntarily giving in to pressure from Government Departments is concerning. Obviously this is not the first time this has happened with media, as newspaper owners for decades/centuries have been open to pressure from political parties and government agencies. They “should” wait until a legally enforceable directive is made, and publicly announce that withholding a story is as a result of a government department directive and not of their own volition.
However, privately owned media will always have an editorial slant determined by their owners and appointed editors. The relative newcomer, Social media, is obviously no different.
When I said “you” I meant it in the sense of “one” or “everyone.”
The Twitter Files reveal an unholy alliance between Big Tech and the deep state designed to throttle free speech and maintain an official narrative through censorship and propaganda.
The Twitter Files Reveal an Existential Threat
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-twitter-files-reveal-an-existential-threat/
After Musk completed his acquisition of Twitter, Musk coordinated with Taibbi and Weiss on the publication of a series of stories based on internal Twitter documents related to an array of major political events going back years: the Hunter Biden laptop scandal, Twitter’s secret policy of shadow banning, President Trump’s suspension from Twitter after the January 6 U.S. Capitol riot, the co-opting of Twitter by the FBI to suppress “election disinformation” ahead of the 2020 election, Twitter’s involvement in a Pentagon overseas psy-op campaign, its silencing of dissent from the official Covid narrative, its complicity in the Russiagate hoax, and its gradual capitulation to the direct involvement of the U.S. intelligence community—with the FBI as a go-between—in content moderation.
As Taibbi has written, the Twitter Files “show the FBI acting as doorman to a vast program of social media surveillance and censorship, encompassing agencies across the federal government—from the State Department to the Pentagon to the CIA.”
Even though there was never any evidence that anything on the laptop was hacked, Roth reacted to it just as the FBI had conditioned him to do, using the company’s hacked-materials policy to suppress the story as soon as it appeared, just as the agency suggested it would, less than a month before the election. Twitter did everything in its power to suppress the Biden story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_Files
https://www.thenation.com/article/so...security-tech/
https://gizmodo.com/twitter-files-hu...ned-1849851303
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/98063854.cms
https://www.foxnews.com/media/matt-t...-twitter-files
https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/07/...-to-defend-it/
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by jonu
Moka, you have fallen into the trap of quoting those who quoted her out of context.
Her Mengele comments were basically saying it was so evil you couldn't make it up, not denying it. The ethnic cleansing statement was in reference to the attempt not working.
Many in the US question the blind support for Netanyahu's regime in Israel. That's not being anti-Jewish. Much in the same way of questioning the billions that have gone into Ukraine without proper oversight isn't anti-Ukrainian.
Just so I didn’t fall into the trap of quoting Candice Owens out of context I went to YouTube to listen to her. One of the first videos that came up was Candace Owens and Andrew Tate. I listened to it twice, and that was an education.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwOXLfVsieA Andrew Tate x Candace Owens | Candace Ep 46
I had not listened to Andrew Tate before. He reminded me of Elon Musk, when I listened to several videos some years ago to understand why the hero worship of Musk. Both Tate and Musk seemed to me to be rambling and incoherent, and to have supersize egos.
I can see why listening to both Owens and Tate would be seductive because there is just enough truth in what they are saying to hook you in. But a lot of it is not the truth so you are buying into a lot of conspiracy theories as well.
Here is Candace on homosexuals:
30:09 …politicians gay that's another thing and that is what kind of leads me to believe that a lot of these people are being blackmailed and they're being selected for these positions I mean - Macron is a homosexual there's no question about that, …. you got Trudeau he's a a homosexual, Barack Obama was a homosexual and then finally when we get in the west a president who's definitely not a homosexual Donald Trump the entire, they just freak out they completely lose their mind. This guy cannot be president he's not allowed to be president because there's no aspect of the most extreme form of blackmail which is like if we know that you have engaged in pedophilia that you've been involved in any of these weird sexual scenarios we can control you in office and there's obviously the Deep State thing is not a conspiracy theory it's part of the reason why they didn't want Tucker to conduct that interview with Putin, because the first thing Putin said is like you know I don't deal with your president I'm dealing with the CIA right, that is the Deep State he's like President I talk to the CIA is who's controlling your Nations which means that our democracy the Republic it's an illusion.
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