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29-08-2024, 05:05 PM
#4221
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by dobby41
Cancelling the ferries will waste around 1bn - non-existent? Nothing to do?
Ferries that were not suited to working their way through the Marlborough Sounds and required at least 2 billion more in spending on infrastructure? Those ferries?
How was the light rail experience dobby41? Did you enjoy? How about your lovely experience cycling across the harbour bridge? Was it exhilarating?
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29-08-2024, 05:27 PM
#4222
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by jonu
Ferries that were not suited to working their way through the Marlborough Sounds and required at least 2 billion more in spending on infrastructure? Those ferries?
How was the light rail experience dobby41? Did you enjoy? How about your lovely experience cycling across the harbour bridge? Was it exhilarating?
What a stupid answer - so typical!
Ferries without rail will stuff transport for decades. I have posted on that before.
Light rail - the real issue was the tunnels. They could have, and should have, been removed and used the 100% surface option. National could have done that but they prefer roads. Everyone knows that roads just congest - double the size and they still congest.
The cycle bridge was nutty but that wasn't what I was talking about. What's National's plan for a 2nd harbour crossing?
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29-08-2024, 06:48 PM
#4223
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by dobby41
What a stupid answer - so typical!
Ferries without rail will stuff transport for decades. I have posted on that before.
Light rail - the real issue was the tunnels. They could have, and should have, been removed and used the 100% surface option. National could have done that but they prefer roads. Everyone knows that roads just congest - double the size and they still congest.
The cycle bridge was nutty but that wasn't what I was talking about. What's National's plan for a 2nd harbour crossing?
Did I say no ferries? "What a stupid answer-so typical" to quote someone who should no doubt blush at their own stu......
If the light rail answer was so obvious, why didn't Labour do it? Instead of 6 YEARS of spending millions and no track being laid.
Expecting the coalition to fix in 18 months, the worst 6 years of government this country has suffered is a little unreasonable IMHO.
Last edited by jonu; 29-08-2024 at 06:52 PM.
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Yesterday, 05:51 PM
#4224
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by jonu
Did I say no ferries? "What a stupid answer-so typical" to quote someone who should no doubt blush at their own stu......
If the light rail answer was so obvious, why didn't Labour do it? Instead of 6 YEARS of spending millions and no track being laid.
Expecting the coalition to fix in 18 months, the worst 6 years of government this country has suffered is a little unreasonable IMHO.
No, you didn't say ferries - I did.
The rest of the answer was typically stupid.
Why didn't Labour get rid of tunnels? Because they wanted tunnels but really they are too expensive.
I just expect the Govt to head in the right direction but they aren't.
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Yesterday, 05:58 PM
#4225
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by dobby41
No, you didn't say ferries - I did.
The rest of the answer was typically stupid.
Why didn't Labour get rid of tunnels? Because they wanted tunnels but really they are too expensive.
I just expect the Govt to head in the right direction but they aren't.
Oh, I get it now. Pointing out the gross incompetence of the Labour government was stupid in your view. Most useless, wasteful and ultimately dishonest government in living memory, probably in the country's history. How stupid of me.
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Yesterday, 06:59 PM
#4226
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by dobby41
No, you didn't say ferries - I did.
The rest of the answer was typically stupid.
Why didn't Labour get rid of tunnels? Because they wanted tunnels but really they are too expensive.
I just expect the Govt to head in the right direction but they aren't.
And Labour under Clueless Cindy & Hapless Hipkins were heading in the right direction of course.
Kiss my arse. Again.
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Yesterday, 07:10 PM
#4227
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by jonu
Oh, I get it now. Pointing out the gross incompetence of the Labour government was stupid in your view. Most useless, wasteful and ultimately dishonest government in living memory, probably in the country's history. How stupid of me.
Yes you said it - you are stupid😀
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Yesterday, 08:32 PM
#4228
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by jonu
Expecting the coalition to fix in 18 months, the worst 6 years of government this country has suffered is a little unreasonable IMHO.
It's all so hard isn't it.
I thought they had the experience and competence to deliver. The year of non-delivery?
The post is stuck in the mail.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; Yesterday at 09:20 PM.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by dobby41
No, you didn't say ferries - I did.
The rest of the answer was typically stupid.
Why didn't Labour get rid of tunnels? Because they wanted tunnels but really they are too expensive.
I just expect the Govt to head in the right direction but they aren't.
I disageree that tunnels are too expensive. That simply tells me the benefits of tunnels have not been properly evaluated in NZ. I have spent the last 4 months in Norway and Iceland where tunnels are everywhere, through mountains and under fiords, connecting small towns and villages that were hard to commute between before tunnels. It has created new and much bigger "economic areas", increased property values in smaller towns and allowed people to work and live in different towns, even attending schools in areas where they had to move to and rent (or buy) apartments before, but can now live at home with mum & dad and attend schools in different towns. In many cases commuting has been cut from 3-4 hours (and often closed in winter) to 20-45 minutes.
And please do not bring up the ridiculous argument about NZ being prone to earthquakes. Tell that to the Icelanders and they would laugh at you.
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