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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Balance
After she spoke, the Tribes presented her with a plague
That was pretty mean of them giving her a plague!
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by dobby41
That was pretty mean of them giving her a plague! ![Scared](images/smilies/scared.gif)
Some get told to watch their p's and q's, but not their g's and q's.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by davflaws
Based on my inability to find any reference to this on the net, I call Bull****.
Here is a reference -
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wa...le-politician/
Walking Eagle
A joke about Native Americans derisively tags a pandering U.S. politician with the name Walking Eagle because 'he's so full of crap he can't fly.' This item is simply an old bit of humor that is dusted off and trotted out every election cycle, with the name of current politicians substituted for those referenced in previous versions.
A Senator was touring a Native American reservation. To start things off, the Senator made a fine speech full of rosy promises of better things. "We shall see," he said, "a new era of opportunity." To this, the audience gave a ringing cry of "Hoya, hoya!" Encouraged by the cheer, the Senator continued, "We promise better schools and better hospitals!" "Hoya, hoya!" the audience cried once again. Beaming with pride, the senator ended his fine speech by saying, "Trust us. We have only your best interest at heart." The air shook with a long, mighty "Hoya, hoya!"
Greatly pleased by the reception, the senator then began making his tour of the reservation. When he asked if he could inspect the reservation's cattle, his guide answered, "Certainly, come this way. But be careful not to step in the hoya."
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Maybe walking eagle is a story about a female who soared above the males in the room. But they were having none of that so conspired to clip her wings to ensure such a thing could never happen to them again.
Some of these male eagles could be the "convocation" leader for 100 years and never reach the same facebook following as our Jacinda.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by davflaws
It isn't often that I find myself in sympathy with the Trump camp, but they are currently being excoriated because JD Vance was being interviewed by Brett Weisenstein (think Evergreen).
Weisenstein mentioned that the function of postmenopausal women was to be grandparents, and Vance said 'Yes'. All hell has (understandably) broken out, and this has (again understandably) been used as an example of the Trump camp's contempt for women.
It wasn't (though they have plenty).
Weisenstein is an evolutionary biologist, and in that context, his statement was correct. For almost all the course of human evolution, women have been the principle caregivers, and as they age, there comes a point where (in terms of their health and life expectancy) it is statistically better to put energy and resources into the nurture of grandchildren carrying a quarter of their genes rather than another child carrying half their genes. Natural selection produces menopause.
You may think it’s about evolutionary biology, but the bigger issue is how his views could impact policies. Women's rights groups worry that Vance's views could translate into policies that disproportionately impact women negatively, particularly in areas like reproductive rights and family leave.
The statement "That's the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female in theory" is a controversial and reductive view that was expressed by podcast host Eric Weinstein during a 2020 interview with JD Vance. This comment was made in the context of discussing how Vance's mother-in-law had taken a sabbatical to help care for his newborn child.
This resurfaced audio has sparked criticism and controversy for several reasons:
- It reduces postmenopausal women's purpose to childcare.
- It ignores the many other roles and contributions of older women in society.
- It perpetuates outdated stereotypes about women's value being tied to reproductive functions.
This controversy is part of a larger pattern of scrutiny over Vance's comments about women and family roles. These incidents have raised questions about Vance's views on gender roles and women's issues as he campaigns for the vice presidency.
Women's rights groups and advocates have raised several criticisms regarding JD Vance's views:
- Reductive views on women's roles: Vance has faced backlash for appearing to agree with the notion that "the whole purpose of the postmenopausal female" is to help raise grandchildren. This has been criticized as diminishing women's value beyond reproductive and caregiving roles.
- Also use of derogatory language,anti-abortion stance, controversial views on marriage: implying that couples should stay together for their children's sake, even in cases of domestic violence, perceived lack of empathy.
These criticisms collectively paint a picture of Vance as someone whose views on women's roles and rights are seen as outdated and potentially harmful by many women's rights advocates.
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