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    Hi Aaron
    I been buying bank preference shares as a replacement for term deposits.
    Find them under bonds

    TIckers
    BNZHA 7.3%
    BNZHB 7.28%
    ANZBHD 7.6%
    or
    QHLHA 6.4% Quayside are BOPcouncil investment arm…own POT

    Still has some risk but if the banks all get in trouble there probably big trouble elsewhere

    DYOR before investing
    Last edited by Perky; 15-08-2024 at 07:53 AM.

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    Can anyone explain the maths of why IFT330 are quoted as price per 100 $104.320 which is a 4.3% increase on issue price but also quoted at yield of 5.98% vs coupon rate of 6.9% which would indicate an increase of
    ((6.9 / 5.98) - 1) * 100 = 15.3%.
    This formula seems reasonable to me because if yield had halved it would give 100% increase which seems right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nor View Post
    Can anyone explain the maths of why IFT330 are quoted as price per 100 $104.320 which is a 4.3% increase on issue price but also quoted at yield of 5.98% vs coupon rate of 6.9% which would indicate an increase of
    ((6.9 / 5.98) - 1) * 100 = 15.3%.
    This formula seems reasonable to me because if yield had halved it would give 100% increase which seems right.
    Maturity 2029. THats 5 years. Yield is quoted till maturity and worked out on a DCF situation.

    You pay 1.043 now, get 1.00 in 5 years time and every year get $6.9% per note.

    That probably works out to a yield of 5.98% if you pop that in excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perky View Post
    Hi Aaron
    I been buying bank preference shares as a replacement for term deposits.
    Find them under bonds

    TIckers
    BNZHA 7.3%
    BNZHB 7.28%
    ANZBHD 7.6%
    or
    QHLHA 6.4% Quayside are BOPcouncil investment arm…own POT

    Still has some risk but if the banks all get in trouble there probably big trouble elsewhere

    DYOR before investing
    I have been doing something similar as existing term deposits mature. I don’t want to buy more ordinary shares, and may need some cash at uncertain date in about a year or two and figure selling preference shares and bonds would be (cheaper and) easier than breaking a TD if necessary.
    Last edited by Bjauck; Today at 03:02 PM.

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