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    Lux working up a lather, taking his preferred
    PM public support from 23% to 28% in latest TV1 poll.

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    Getty say to paint pitcher, you must use water colours

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    That's what 20 bucks will do for ya.

    Stapled to those blue leaflets saying something about "back on track".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    That's what 20 bucks will do for ya.

    Stapled to those blue leaflets saying something about "back on track".
    So bitter Panda.

    Alternatively you could say that's what happens when a government focuses on implementing and applying a strategy to dig us out of the dodo the hapless left govt created.

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    Well, they came in on July 31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    So daytr my definition of neoliberalism is spot on -

    “Neo-liberalism is not an ideology, with a programme and list of demands, just a bunch of powerful people doing things in their own self interest.”
    I disagree Neoliberalism is very much an ideology.

    Neoliberalism is an economic and political ideology that emphasizes free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduced government intervention in the economy.

    Neoliberalism emerged in the 1930s as a response to the perceived threats of collectivism, socialism, and extensive state intervention in the economy. It developed as a defense of Western liberal values, especially individual freedom, in reaction to the rise of fascism and communism.

    Key Proponents and Events

    • The 1938 Walter Lippmann Colloquium in Paris is considered an important early moment in neoliberal thought.
    • The Mont Pèlerin Society, founded in 1947 by Friedrich Hayek and others, played a crucial role in developing and promoting neoliberal ideas.
    • Influential thinkers included Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, and James Buchanan.

    Ideological Development
    Neoliberalism evolved from its early roots to become a more comprehensive political and economic philosophy:

    • It combined classical liberal political theory with neoclassical economic theories.
    • It advocated for free markets, deregulation, and limited government intervention while still supporting some role for the state in providing basic public goods.

    Neoliberalism gained significant influence in the 1970s and 1980s:

    • It became the basis for policy regimes under leaders like Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.
    • International institutions like the World Bank and IMF adopted neoliberal principles.

    Neoliberalism has been associated with shifts in power:

    • It has been credited with reducing state interventions in economic and social activities.
    • Critics argue it has led to increased social inequalities and benefited dominant classes in both developed and developing countries.

    This historical trajectory shows how neoliberalism developed from a reaction to collectivism into a dominant global ideology that reshaped economic and political systems in many parts of the world.

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    NZers dropped christianity and picked up another religion.

    Though maybe not given how many young people live overseas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    The Lefts utter obsession with ‘neoliberalism’ (less regulation / smaller government) and ‘trickle down’ is a form of collective madness, they must mention these two things every 5 minutes it seems.
    Neoliberalism is generally considered a policy of the right, not the left. Here are the key points to understand:
    Neoliberalism advocates for:

    • Free market capitalism
    • Deregulation of the economy
    • Privatization of state-owned enterprises
    • Reduction in government spending, especially on social programs
    • Lower taxes, particularly for businesses and high-income individuals

    These economic policies align more closely with right-wing or conservative ideologies.
    Historical Context
    Neoliberalism is often associated with:

    • Ronald Reagan's presidency in the United States
    • Margaret Thatcher's tenure as Prime Minister in the United Kingdom

    Both Reagan and Thatcher were conservative leaders who implemented neoliberal economic policies in the 1980s.

    Contrast with Leftist Ideologies
    Neoliberalism differs significantly from leftist economic philosophies:

    • Leftists typically support more government intervention in the economy
    • They advocate for stronger regulations on businesses
    • Leftist policies often aim to redistribute wealth and reduce economic inequality
    • Many leftists oppose privatization and support public ownership of key industries

    Political Spectrum
    While neoliberalism incorporates some classically liberal ideas about individual rights and freedoms, its economic policies place it firmly on the right side of the political spectrum in most contexts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Interestingly on wikipedia only NZ seems to be classed as a free market economy.

    NZ = free market.
    AU = mixed.
    US = mixed.
    Singapore = mixed with "digirism".. oh dear, lol.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_New_Zealand
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom..._United_States
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Singapore
    Why is Singapore so successful? One reason is because the state plays a strong role in contrast to neoliberal policies which advocate for less government.

    Dirigisme or dirigism (from French diriger 'to direct') is an economic doctrine in which the state plays a strong directive (policies) role, contrary to a merely regulatory or non-interventionist role, over a market economy.
    As an economic doctrine, dirigisme is the opposite of laissez-faire, stressing a positive role for state intervention in curbing productive inefficiencies and market failures.
    Dirigiste policies often include indicative planning, state-directed investment, and the use of market instruments (taxes and subsidies) to incentivize market entities to fulfill state economic objectives.

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