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03-07-2024, 04:38 PM
#1441
Originally Posted by buy_high_sell_lo
I believe you have gotten the FY24 update and FY25 forecasts confused.
All SKC have done is reiterated their earnings update from 06 of June.
Underlying Group EBITDA for FY24 of between $280 million and $285 million and underlying Group NPAT for FY24 of between $120 million and $125 million
Underlying Group EBITDA for FY25 to be between $250 million and $270 million.
so going forward they are going to make less money in yr25
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03-07-2024, 11:48 PM
#1442
Junior Member
Originally Posted by bull....
so going forward they are going to make less money in yr25
Correct however I imagine that is partly because they will need to absorb higher than usual opex for the NZICC without significant revenue to cover the expense in the first year of operations.
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04-07-2024, 07:17 AM
#1443
Originally Posted by buy_high_sell_lo
Correct however I imagine that is partly because they will need to absorb higher than usual opex for the NZICC without significant revenue to cover the expense in the first year of operations.
be the same with the convention centre. The return of GDP growth might help absorb the costs quicker. probably a yr26 + story considering the lag of int rate effect.
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10-07-2024, 08:52 AM
#1444
interesting the star boss saying casino's may not ever return to the boom days. business might end up being more about hotels and restaurants
Gaming no longer ‘glorious part of the business’: Star boss
https://www.afr.com/companies/games-...0240626-p5jozc
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18-07-2024, 09:55 AM
#1445
bad news down cycle continues
https://www.nzx.com/announcements/434666
Will have a $5m impact to ebitda
SkyCity Entertainment Group Limited (SkyCity) advises that SkyCity Casino Management Limited (SCML) has reached an agreement with the Secretary for Internal Affairs (Secretary) to resolve the Secretary's application to temporarily suspend SCML’s casino operator’s licence (Application). As part of the agreement, SCML has agreed to close the gambling area of the SkyCity Auckland casino for five consecutive days in 2024.
Instant success is a curse and a gift. The curse is you think luck is skill. The gift is you know it can be done. Then it’s a race to turn luck into skill before you lose it all.
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18-07-2024, 11:43 AM
#1446
This has been known for a while. $5m hit is fine.
One more shoe to drop on the Adelaide casino review...
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18-07-2024, 11:52 AM
#1447
Originally Posted by Leemsip
This has been known for a while. $5m hit is fine.
One more shoe to drop on the Adelaide casino review...
oh i thought it was another lol
Instant success is a curse and a gift. The curse is you think luck is skill. The gift is you know it can be done. Then it’s a race to turn luck into skill before you lose it all.
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09-08-2024, 12:40 PM
#1448
Member
If they're smart, they'll use the time the casino is closed to get every bit of maintenance done, so it doesn't impact on customers
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19-08-2024, 11:19 AM
#1449
https://www.nzx.com/announcements/436314
Impairment of SkyCity Adelaide assets and adjustment for change to New Zealand tax legislation
Key Points
• SkyCity expects to impair its Adelaide assets by A$86.2 (NZ$94.3 million) to reflect updated assumptions regarding the introduction of mandatory carded play at the SkyCity Adelaide casino in 2026, and additional legal and compliance costs associated with SkyCity Adelaide’s uplift programmes.
• SkyCity also expects to record a tax adjustment of NZ$129.6m following recent changes to New Zealand tax legislation.
• The impairment and tax adjustment are both non-cash, and do not impact the SkyCity Group’s underlying EBITDA or underlying NPAT for the financial year ended 30 June 2024.
• These adjustments and SkyCity’s FY24 Group financial statements remain subject to external audit.
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19-08-2024, 12:03 PM
#1450
Originally Posted by Leemsip
This is starting to look pretty good price wise. Currently on p/e of 9 or 10, coming out of a huge capex cycle (Horizon Hotel, Conference centre), and having paid some serious wedge to settle fines. These new facilities will all start to print money when they go live, I think the latest on the hotel is August, not sure about ICC. Hopefully the company has taken action to ensure no further breaches of regulations etc.
I would press the buy button, but we are only mid way through the epic series of punishing regulatory actions. Still got Adelaide casino review (is SKC ok to keep holding the license) and the NZ govt (DIA) smack down to come...
So currently $1.50 share price. I am very confident this will work out well in the long term. However I think this goes down further when these next regulatory actions hit. Just a waiting game now... trying not to go too early... Crazy that this could go lower still....
I purchased some today, I was worried I may have put you off buying them, more fool you if you listened to anything I say. No detailed analysis from me but roughly.
They managed a 12 cent dividend or 15.38cents (incl imp crs) in the past so on $1.60 that is a 9.6% yield. By my calculations a 12 cent dividend on current shares is roughly $91mill pa (758,117,231 * .12). Doable???.
They used to manage 20cents or 25.6 cents (incl imp cr).
Dividends to hopefully commence again in Sept 2025, little over a year so gain in share price on falling interest rates should cover the 12 months without a dividend.
Too many assumptions re recessions, govt intervention, new hotel and conference centre etc etc. New boss in the herald on the weekend hopefully he does OK. Earnings out in 3 days. No idea what happens but will meet back here in a year to assess the success or failure of this speculation.
Last edited by Aaron; 19-08-2024 at 01:01 PM.
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