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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post

    The drug & alcohol thing, or prior convictions is part of the problem because if a portion of them were drug tested they would fail.
    If you penalize them by taking away some if their benefits, do they just resort to crime?

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    That's the flip side. I won't pretend I have answers to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Amongst some, it has been for 50+ years.
    My parents used to rail against it!
    My parents also. A teenage girl I went through school with popped out 2 kids of unknown linage around 1970 while still living at home. I have no doubt the state brought up her kids. Multiply that scenario by god knows how many, and who paid for it ! Not sure if govt of the day was attempting to protect woman who lost husbands but it backfired for sure. Became a thriving career path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    My parents also. A teenage girl I went through school with popped out 2 kids of unknown linage around 1970 while still living at home. I have no doubt the state brought up her kids. Multiply that scenario by god knows how many, and who paid for it ! Not sure if govt of the day was attempting to protect woman who lost husbands but it backfired for sure. Became a thriving career path.
    What chance has any of these kids got to get a proper start and right attitude in life with solo parents like these? Not their fault that they have mothers who think that breeding them is a lifestyle choice.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...18-months.html

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/progr...ving-in-motels
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