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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    savage reaction to microsoft results. big week still to go for mag7

    anyway

    Who are NZ's 1 percent, and how do you get there?


    Stats NZ said in 2021 the top 1 percent of New Zealand households had net wealth - assets minus debts - of at least $7.59 million. That compares to median net worth for all households of $397,000
    If you want to get rich, you'd better start early - and potentially have a bit of luck on your side
    Here's the rundown on what it takes to be among the wealthiest people in New Zealand now, and how you might hope to get there.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/...-you-get-there



    The economist in the article did a podcast this morning. I'm sure the content of that podcast was the basis for article. I pulled him up on his numbers. Of course, he has a vested interest in having people invest in property as he is a partner in a property investment co (and i'm not saying investing in property is bad - I do it). I'm saying his numbers are disingenuous as they were not risk or inflation adjusted, they did not contain dividends and his property numbers did not take into account expenses, namely interest, and other opex (maintenance, property management, insurance), etc. Also given property is highly leveraged then his numbers could have also taken margined sharemarket investments into account as well.

    And we then get berated by the property lobbyists when we argue that investing in productive businesses should gets its due!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Hi Percy,

    Is it really a book business these days? I visit my local paper plus about 3 times a week, and to me they sell more items outside of books than books. IN fact, I hardly see them selling books at all. More like trinkets, gifts and they provide a NZ post service where my local is.

    I know the ladies there quite well, I might just ask them about the capital raise and how much they are needed to stump up with. I don't think they will be very happy.
    Yes very much different from just a book, cards ,stationery, and magazine seller.
    NZ Post is a lot of work for very little reward.[if any]
    Most of their supplies now come from Australia,so logistics mean they have to a higher stock holding.
    Emails and skype mean card sales and writing pad sales are under pressure,while You tube etc has seen magazine sales come under pressure.
    It is interesting to note book sales have recovered.People seem to enjoy holding a book rather than reading them on line .
    Paper Plus's head office revenue comes from collecting a % off wholesalers invoices,ie shops are charged through head office,which adds on a margin.
    So if stores are not selling a lot they are buying less, which means head office's revenue is down.
    Off the top of my head I think they will need to raise between $900,000 and $2,500,000..With 90 stores that would be $10,000 to $27,750 per store.
    However it is all a catch 22.Store sales down,means head office revenue is down.Store sales down, their profit will be well down,and they too may be under pressure from their own bank.

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    Markets look very UP overnight as rate cuts get closer.

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    fed pretty much saying sept cut on the table , barring anything bad happening. Should see RBNZ in play now. though got to remember 25 cut really doesnt make much difference to conditions
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Going to be a search for yield across the board. Position accordingly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    fed pretty much saying sept cut on the table , barring anything bad happening. Should see RBNZ in play now. though got to remember 25 cut really doesnt make much difference to conditions
    Change of mood leads to change of sentiment ...Evident from just few words of RNBZ made NZX do + 5.22 % last month ...real cut of any magnitude will do that once again ....NZX50 can end up + 10-15% by Dec end ...if all proceed smoothly on rates front ...80/100 chance ...imho

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    Fun fact: Google is making over $1b USD in interest income per quarter on its cash. Thats more than Kroger, Target, Paypal, Kraft Heinz, Starbucks, Chipotle, Blackstone, Air BnB, and Advanced Micro devices combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by causecelebre View Post
    Fun fact: Google is making over $1b USD in interest income per quarter on its cash. Thats more than Kroger, Target, Paypal, Kraft Heinz, Starbucks, Chipotle, Blackstone, Air BnB, and Advanced Micro devices combined.
    thats crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawz View Post
    thats crazy
    I know right? High rates are inflationary lol

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...oogle_vignette

    Rates are on the move again ...RBNZ will follow the market ...not lead

    US10Y 4.03% ...big move down after hearing Sept cut almost done deal ...RBNZ will either fall in line with market and move in August or will do 50 bps ahead ...doesnt matter to useable rates as banks already front running ...for banks its already down 75 bps ....I reckon


    PS : Reducing floating rate shows confidence in OCR coming down soon !!!
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