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    Meanwhile, the unanswered question is how and what is Putin doing to help his mate Trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    In an interview with Doug Casey published on October 13, 2021, Kunstler called the COVID-19 pandemic a "scam", and on October 11 he published the debunked vaccine conspiracy theory that the vaccine would kill people "steadily over the weeks and months" and went on to name hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin as "effective" treatments.

    Kunstler is but another Trump supporter nutcase.
    Mr Kuntsler and Mr Trump (nice names btw) - two peas in a pod.

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    The Social Objectification of Kamala.

    As most of the world knows by now, Joe Biden dropped out of the Presidential race, and within 24 hours Kamala Harris has jumped in to take his place as the assumed nominee.

    The politics of it all we’ll leave to others. What caught our attention was this little story in Teen Vogue about how ordinary people immediately started to produce their own DIY merch to support her cause (t-shirts, posters, badges, bumper stickers, you get the idea).

    It wasn’t the standard, generic products on her homepage that people have started to rally behind, but the homemade, DIY stuff on Etsy sporting quotes and memes that reveal her more quirky, human side. Eg. “You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?” One of these things is not like the other.

    The interesting question is whether the Harris campaign will try to “borrow” the DIY products and ethos, somehow, and make it their own.

    Would there be backlash? Could they do it without removing all the magic?

    Hard to predict beforehand, but given all the momentum so far, the answer is unlikely.

    Like most memes, they weren’t started by Kamala herself, someone shined a spotlight on a random moment, and that made all of the difference.

    Seth Godin once famously said, “The ideas that spread, win” and this DIY effort is spreading very fast indeed. But we’ll go one further. To us, the ideas that win are the ones that become “Social Objects.”

    Social Objects are what they sound like: things that enable social interaction. Things that allow us to identify:

    “You like Kamala? I like Kamala!”
    “You’re a vegan? I’m a vegan!”
    “You’re a Star Wars fan? I’m a Star Wars fan!”
    Trump’s MAGA hat was a great social object. So was Obama’s famous “HOPE” poster. Once you recognize the social object idea, you can’t unsee it. They’re everywhere.

    They’re what our civilization is built on. They’re also what our businesses are built on.

    Kamala’s campaign is suddenly spreading effectively because people are creating social objects very effectively, not the other way around. The objects precede the spread.

    Want your idea to spread? Then ask yourself, is it a social object? Because that’s how it’s done. Just ask Kamala.

    https://www.gapingvoid.com/the-socia...ion-of-kamala/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    As Muse and his woke left team are passing judgement on how others dare to think here, lets get real. If by chance Harris does within the next 100 days actually prove she is grossly stupid, of which there is a very strong possibility considering her track record, you lot will defend her regardless.
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    Im an Act/Nat voter - possible to walk & chew gum at the same time.
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    Fair point Muse. Good to see the at least here in paradise we are both on the same side of the fence.
    So Muse isn't woke now or are they still woke but right-leaning?
    I thought only the left could be woke (or all the left is woke).

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    The Social Objectification of Kamala.

    As most of the world knows by now, Joe Biden dropped out of the Presidential race, and within 24 hours Kamala Harris has jumped in to take his place as the assumed nominee.

    The politics of it all we’ll leave to others. What caught our attention was this little story in Teen Vogue about how ordinary people immediately started to produce their own DIY merch to support her cause (t-shirts, posters, badges, bumper stickers, you get the idea).

    It wasn’t the standard, generic products on her homepage that people have started to rally behind, but the homemade, DIY stuff on Etsy sporting quotes and memes that reveal her more quirky, human side. Eg. “You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?” One of these things is not like the other.

    The interesting question is whether the Harris campaign will try to “borrow” the DIY products and ethos, somehow, and make it their own.

    Would there be backlash? Could they do it without removing all the magic?

    Hard to predict beforehand, but given all the momentum so far, the answer is unlikely.

    Like most memes, they weren’t started by Kamala herself, someone shined a spotlight on a random moment, and that made all of the difference.

    Seth Godin once famously said, “The ideas that spread, win” and this DIY effort is spreading very fast indeed. But we’ll go one further. To us, the ideas that win are the ones that become “Social Objects.”

    Social Objects are what they sound like: things that enable social interaction. Things that allow us to identify:

    “You like Kamala? I like Kamala!”
    “You’re a vegan? I’m a vegan!”
    “You’re a Star Wars fan? I’m a Star Wars fan!”
    Trump’s MAGA hat was a great social object. So was Obama’s famous “HOPE” poster. Once you recognize the social object idea, you can’t unsee it. They’re everywhere.

    They’re what our civilization is built on. They’re also what our businesses are built on.

    Kamala’s campaign is suddenly spreading effectively because people are creating social objects very effectively, not the other way around. The objects precede the spread.

    Want your idea to spread? Then ask yourself, is it a social object? Because that’s how it’s done. Just ask Kamala.

    https://www.gapingvoid.com/the-socia...ion-of-kamala/
    Good article, W69.

    Of stuff like these are elections won and lost these days.

    Then, there’s the Taylor Swift endorsement which could swing either way at this stage and prove decisive in who wins the election. If she is smart, she will steer clear and let innuendo do the job instead.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...s/72485714007/
    Last edited by Balance; 27-07-2024 at 03:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    So Muse isn't woke now or are they still woke but right-leaning?
    I thought only the left could be woke (or all the left is woke).
    It would appear with his "I can do both" comment he is not woke regards NZ politics. You want more detail you need to ask him.

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    Trump running scared.

    As he should be - going to get skewed like the fattened old con man he really is.

    https://www.salon.com/2024/07/26/don...to-be_partner/

    In Harris, Trump faces someone who knows how to get under his skin. Harris knows how effective it is to mock Trump, to belittle his self-aggrandizing, to counter his lies that the economy is in shambles when it’s the strongest in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    So Muse isn't woke now or are they still woke but right-leaning?
    I thought only the left could be woke (or all the left is woke).
    In a World of labels, maybe there are some who need wide lapels to accommodate their badges representing their opinions. Is nuance still permitted I wonder?
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    Trump’s lead gone - WSJ latest poll.

    Only the beginning …. the old con man will be on the ropes soon.

    Showing weakness (running scared and away from debate) and showing desperation (mindless name calling) can only result in the Fornicator going further backwards.

    Trump against Biden was like one 78 year old running a physical race against an 82 year old. Not much of a contest.

    Trump vs Harris is like an intellectual contest between a mature 40 year old (Harris) vs a juvenile 8 year old. Not much of a contest either.

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/electio...finds-e286144d

    The presidential race between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump is essentially tied, according to a new Wall Street Journal poll that shows heightened support for her among nonwhite voters and dramatically increased enthusiasm about the campaign among Democrats.
    Last edited by Balance; 27-07-2024 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Trump’s lead gone - WSJ latest poll.

    Only the beginning …. the old con man will be on the ropes soon.

    Showing weakness (running scared and away from debate) and showing desperation (mindless name calling) can only result in the Fornicator going further backwards.

    Trump against Biden was like one 78 year old running a physical race against an 82 year old. Not much of a contest.

    Trump vs Harris is like an intellectual contest between a mature 40 year old (Harris) vs a juvenile 8 year old. Not much of a contest either.

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/electio...finds-e286144d

    The presidential race between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump is essentially tied, according to a new Wall Street Journal poll that shows heightened support for her among nonwhite voters and dramatically increased enthusiasm about the campaign among Democrats.
    I'm waiting for the dirty trick ala the Clinton emails which was nothing but cost her the election.
    Last edited by Daytr; 27-07-2024 at 05:59 PM.

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