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    Cancelled my NZ Business Desk subscription today.

    Why.
    I am already subscribed to NZ Herald premium. The good articles normally end up in the Herald.
    I find the majority of articles really generic.
    The majority of my investments are now non NZX.

    I sort of feel like a bit of an idiot for signing up last year.

    Anyway, lesson learned.

    Does anyone pay for the Cnbc investment site? I. E the investor articles.

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    OK.
    I am on a different planet.
    My final comments (for a while).
    Trump is nationalist.Nationalism was a significant factor in WW1 and WW2 plus other wars.Hence League of Nations and the United Nations.
    Many historians have noted how similar Trumps speechs replicate Hitlers.
    Most if not all world leaders openly mock him.
    Any comments he makes regarding God have to be taken dubiously.
    He openly adores Xi and Putin.
    He has in the past stated that publications as NYT and the WP should be shut down.
    He is a conspiracy theorist.
    Whilst in office he preferred diagrams rather written material.
    He would have to be considered the most divisive president in history.
    Him in office would be considerably negative to NZ inc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troyvdh View Post
    OK.
    I am on a different planet. Possibly
    My final comments (for a while).
    Trump is nationalist. As opposed to a Socialist...I guess so Nationalism was a significant factor in WW1 and WW2 plus other wars.Hence League of Nations and the United Nations. Simplistic view. It ignores the colonial ambitions of in particular Germany and Japan leading into ww1 The Nationalism leading to ww2 a sympton of ww1 outcome
    Many historians have noted how similar Trumps speechs replicate Hitlers. Any good speech writer does the same
    Most if not all world leaders openly mock him. Not when they are dealing with him
    Any comments he makes regarding God have to be taken dubiously. Agreed
    He openly adores Xi and Putin. No he doesn't. He does acknowledge their strong points or successes.
    He has in the past stated that publications as NYT and the WP should be shut down. With good reason when you take into account the lies they spread about him as to being a Russian asset, how they covered up the Hunter Biden laptop, and how they ran cover over Biden's health issues.
    He is a conspiracy theorist. Possibly. But some have been proven right. Cases in point above in reference to the media.
    Whilst in office he preferred diagrams rather written material. Didn't know that, but seems a smart way to digest a lot of information
    He would have to be considered the most divisive president in history. Possibly. Abe Lincoln might be close behind. Good company.
    Him in office would be considerably negative to NZ inc.
    How so?

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    Alright folks this is a markets thread.
    Join the slanging match on the political threads if you want to debate the merits of various politicians.

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    “In the seventy five years I’ve been investing if I’d reacted to events I’d be out of the market. I never really want to be out of the market. It’s not a question of being out of the market, it’s a question of owning businesses.


    If I wanted to own farms, I wouldn’t keep buying and selling them based on some election result. I’d find the best place to own them and get the best tenants I could and that sort of thing. I look at businesses the same way.”


    - Warren Buffett

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValueNZ View Post
    “In the seventy five years I’ve been investing if I’d reacted to events I’d be out of the market. I never really want to be out of the market. It’s not a question of being out of the market, it’s a question of owning businesses.


    If I wanted to own farms, I wouldn’t keep buying and selling them based on some election result. I’d find the best place to own them and get the best tenants I could and that sort of thing. I look at businesses the same way.”


    - Warren Buffett
    Is he not happy with Bank of America's business anymore? ...maybe they changing their business model enough to change LT plans

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/warr...ling%20showed.??
    Last edited by alokdhir; 23-07-2024 at 03:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troyvdh View Post

    Trump is nationalist.Nationalism was a significant factor in WW1 and WW2 plus other wars.
    Avi Shlaim an Israeli-British historian says nationalism is very negative and it's a very divisive and destructive force.

    Patriotism is different. Patriotism is love of your country but for nationalism you need an enemy and as Marilyn Munroe wrote in her scrap book the trouble with nationalism is that it stops us thinking. Nationalism stops us relating to one another as human beings.

    Shlaim argues that nationalism has led to increased antagonism between Jews and Arabs in Israel, especially as Israel has moved politically rightward in recent decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValueNZ View Post
    “In the seventy five years I’ve been investing if I’d reacted to events I’d be out of the market. I never really want to be out of the market. It’s not a question of being out of the market, it’s a question of owning businesses.


    If I wanted to own farms, I wouldn’t keep buying and selling them based on some election result. I’d find the best place to own them and get the best tenants I could and that sort of thing. I look at businesses the same way.”


    - Warren Buffett
    And he recently sold a large parcel of Apple and is sitting on a huge amount of cash. In the linked video below he initially talks about ignoring the macro and then spends a lot of time talking about the macro I.e taxes in forming his decision to sell.

    https://youtu.be/7OG2LBjmNQM?feature=shared
    Last edited by Daytr; 24-07-2024 at 08:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy View Post
    Does anyone pay for the Cnbc investment site? I. E the investor articles.
    The Marketwatch / Barrons / WSJ bundle for $1 a week for a year looks more tempting.

    Lots of insight and fun things to read like:
    Nvidia, Super Micro, Broadcom — and 22 other stocks most likely to crash
    Last edited by Jaa; 23-07-2024 at 06:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaa View Post
    The Marketwatch / Barrons / WSJ bundle for $1 a week for a year looks more tempting.

    Lots of insight and fun things to read like:
    Nvidia, Super Micro, Broadcom — and 22 other stocks most likely to crash
    Thanks, will take a look.

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