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22-07-2024, 10:02 AM
#581
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by ynot
Nothing to do with misogyny. An incompetent individual be they male or female is just that. Case in point, Ardern, Harris & Biden. 2 of which are now fortunately on the scrap heap.
So anyone on the left....
Trump displayed his competency during the pandemic. Inject them with disinfectant...
His lack of & delayed action on the pandemic cost thousands of lives.
He tried to overturn the democratic outcome of the 2020 election. He didn't win the popular vote in 2016 and without the interference re Clinton's emails, would never have been President.
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22-07-2024, 10:15 AM
#582
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by iceman
It is just plain sad to see upcoming US Presidential elections with 2 unelectable candidates.
Old man vs con man.
Well, the old man is gone.
The choice is now more stark & simpler for America.
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22-07-2024, 10:46 AM
#583
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by jonu
Oh bollocks BJauck. Lighten up. Jokes about dementia and incontinence are thumbing your nose against aging. There's no avoiding it. I hear oldies doing it all the time. And the oft repeated trope that any criticism against Ardern or Harris is because they're women is ridiculous. It's because they are useless.
Sure Jonu. The comments are just jokes, so no offence, and the misogyny is non-existent, so no offence. A Tui ad in the making.
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22-07-2024, 11:36 AM
#584
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Bjauck
Sure Jonu. The comments are just jokes, so no offence, and the misogyny is non-existent, so no offence. A Tui ad in the making.
Agree 100% with jonu that Ardern was the most useless and clueless PM New Zealand ever had the misfortune of having. Some of us saw through that *itch from year 1 but unfortunately, it took the majority another 3 years after that to realise just how hopeless but manipulative she was (and still is).
Be kind.
Most transparent government ever.
Bloody joke she was and NZ is the one paying the price of her sick joke.
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22-07-2024, 11:42 AM
#585
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Balance
Agree 100% with jonu that Ardern was the most useless and clueless PM New Zealand ever had the misfortune of having. Some of us saw through that *itch from year 1 but unfortunately, it took the majority another 3 years after that to realise just how hopeless but manipulative she was (and still is).
Be kind.
Most transparent government ever.
Bloody joke she was and NZ is the one paying the price of her sick joke.
Writing off Ardern's leadership through the pandemic and other disasters is just plain ignorant.
Yes, she failed in other areas, no doubt but she won the first outright majority election result since the start of MMP for a reason.
Imagine if Simon or Judith had been in charge, it would have been an absolute disaster.
Credit and debit where its due.
Last edited by Daytr; 22-07-2024 at 11:52 AM.
Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision. ![Thumbup](images/smilies/thumbup.gif)
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22-07-2024, 12:16 PM
#586
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Daytr
Writing off Ardern's leadership through the pandemic and other disasters is just plain ignorant.
Yes, she failed in other areas, no doubt but she won the first outright majority election result since the start of MMP for a reason.
Imagine if Simon or Judith had been in charge, it would have been an absolute disaster.
Credit and debit where its due.
It was an absolute disaster under Ardern. We will suffer the effects of her reign for years to come. Wasteful spending, social mismanagement. clueless !
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22-07-2024, 12:16 PM
#587
Interesting take from Aaron Sorkin, anyone but Trump.
The West Wing creator Aaron Sorkin pens essay telling Democrats to nominate Mitt Romney for president (msn.com)
How many of you Republican fans would rather see Mitt Romney in the White House than Trump?
Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision. ![Thumbup](images/smilies/thumbup.gif)
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22-07-2024, 01:28 PM
#588
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Balance
No wounds to lick - Biden defeated Trump and that is & will always be a historical fact.
The more that the Fornicator Trump put down Biden, the more outstanding Biden’s win & achievement in 2020 was.
Regrets Biden may have a few but really too few to mention.
A life marred by tragedies, he recovered each time and went on to become POTUS.
Take a bow, Biden - people who appreciate and admire principles and decency salute you. History will judge him kindly and will acknowledge he is a decent, honourable and a far better man & politician than Trump will ever be.
A good perspective below on Biden & why he kept running when he should have dropped out much earlier.
And Biden will always have the ultimate deep satisfaction of being the MAN (called all manner of derogatory names by Trump) to kick the fornicating Trump out of office. Something that Trump will never ever live down for all of his BS bravado.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/us-ele...JAXUDZJU2SG3M/
Paywalled
Joe Biden’s life has been mired in tragedy. He lost his wife and daughter in a car accident soon after his election to the US Senate in 1972.
Drawing deeply on his faith and with the support of a close-knit Irish Catholic family and before meeting future wife Jill, he set about raising his two surviving sons, Hunter and Beau, commuting back and forth on trains from their home in Wilmington, Delaware to his Senate office in DC.
For most, if not the entire duration, of a long and consequential career in that body, in lists of Senators by net worth, Biden was reliably the poorest. He also battled to overcome a speech impediment that, along with a lack of Ivy League pedigree and his proneness to verbal flubs, made Biden easy to underestimate, even disparage.
This was, Biden intuitively grasped, a strength masquerading as weakness. Setbacks, adversity, the howls of elites who think they know better: Biden hasn’t just overcome these before, he has made them his rocket fuel.
Last edited by Balance; 22-07-2024 at 01:58 PM.
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22-07-2024, 03:40 PM
#589
The media oxygen has been sucked out of the RNC and even the assasination attempt.
Now everyone wants to tune into the democratic "hunger games" to see who will have the honour to take on Trump.
Early favourite = Kamala.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 22-07-2024 at 04:03 PM.
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22-07-2024, 03:46 PM
#590
Trump and Vance running scared already of Harris!
Thought they would be looking forward to debating her!
Wanting to change the rules of the debate or even, cancelling altogether. Cowards and hypocrites - leopards do not change their spots.
Can understand why - Harris the experienced prosecutor will persecute Trump in any debate with all of his lies and BS mercilessly.
Trump’s nightmare - a highly qualified and trained fearless black female prosecutor with attitude taking him on in a debate! Just imagine!
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donal...b02fec30d28146
Last edited by Balance; 22-07-2024 at 04:01 PM.
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