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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawz View Post
    Rate cut coming earlier than Nov!!
    Very possible ...but he may will like to start with 50bps cut so may wait till Nov meeting ....though it doesnt matter much now ...market will adjust the rates asap and stocks will start doing their gig also

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    The number RB looks at is the trimmed mean one

    Stats NZ says: The trimmed-mean measures – which excludes extreme price movements – ranged from 3.4 to 3.8 percent in the 12 months to June 2024 quarter. This indicates that underlying inflation is higher than the 3.3 percent increase in the CPI.

    Whatever the number things are still costing more and we’ll never get all the price rises over recent years will be ….so pain will continue for a lot

    But as long as ‘investors’ make money because of rate cuts that’s good eh
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Non-tradable inflation still too high at 0.9% for the quarter and 5.4% p.a.

    I expect an August cut is a less likely now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    The number RB looks at is the trimmed mean one

    Stats NZ says: The trimmed-mean measures – which excludes extreme price movements – ranged from 3.4 to 3.8 percent in the 12 months to June 2024 quarter. This indicates that underlying inflation is higher than the 3.3 percent increase in the CPI.

    Whatever the number things are still costing more and we’ll never get all the price rises over recent years will be ….so pain will continue for a lot

    But as long as ‘investors’ make money because of rate cuts that’s good eh
    The way 10Y and NZD behaving ...Markets not very enthusiastic with CPI report ...so more work / wait maybe in order

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    The RBNZ needs to cut the OCR immediately. This will help my unhedged foreign stock picks in the competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alokdhir View Post
    The way 10Y and NZD behaving ...Markets not very enthusiastic with CPI report ...so more work / wait maybe in order
    It was already priced in?

    Forward looking are markets I’m told
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    It was already priced in?

    Forward looking are markets I’m told
    It was not fully ...wait for Aussy blokes to open and show us what real money thinks of this ...

    But undertone is good ...we are surely over the hump and a bit

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    Rotation is taking place. I kept Interest on small caps as they had low pe ratios. Generally, Institutional investors overlook small caps.Small companies start as small and later they become big. Interest rates may come down at some point but the biggest question is will sky rocketed asset prices come down to the level which can prevent bursting bubbles and major market crashes? Coming period is very crucial for markets.
    Last edited by Valuegrowth; Today at 02:10 PM.

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    Knew change of government would fix things

    Nat Party on X
    Inflation has fallen to 3.3%. We are turning our economy around and winning the fight against inflation.

    Bravo
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    Quote Originally Posted by alokdhir View Post
    Very possible ...but he may will like to start with 50bps cut so may wait till Nov meeting ....though it doesnt matter much now ...market will adjust the rates asap and stocks will start doing their gig also
    market priced that in . inflation well under 3% now if you remove the 3 items outside there control.
    one step ahead of the herd

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