Was this the start of a US Presidential campaign

[Bjauck]

Donald has rolled his dice and come up with JD Vance.

He's diverse!?
39 years old.
I bet he plays a mean game of poker.

No token choices for Don eh?

USA USA USA USA.

Are you a maga American? I am not sure that his All the way with the USA will be good for the traditional allies of the USA. He wants Russia to attack NATO countries, because they don’t spend enough on the military. NZ certainly does not pay its way in that regard.

He supports Putin over Ukraine. He calls probably their closest ally, the UK, the first Islamist state to have nuclear weapons, because Labour won the election. He believes memes? He was against Biden’s plans for gun control, yet wants to ban consensual porn.

[Bjauck]

I think Melania would object to be called Russian. She was born in what was then Communist Yugoslavia (now Slovenia). People fight wars over such things Getty!

That’s an unimportant detail for the World view of Trump fans. Europeans should be so lucky to be under Putin’s Russia! The democratic countries of the European Union are to be feared more than Putin’s Russia.

[Panda-NZ-]

Putin lays siege to Georgia, invades Crimea and shoots down a civilian airliner under Obama (at least his forces did). Invades Ukraine and squeezes Euro gas supply under Biden. Then Biden helps him further by blowing up the undersea gas pipeline! (Biden even said he would do that 12 months earlier). The losers in the gas fiasco? The European public. The big gainers? US gas interests.

Russia is completely bogged down in Ukraine. It's a slog for them (with only a token amount of money spent compared to afghanistan).

If we withdraw pressure then it frees them up to help Iran, China, Venezeula get up to all sorts.

[jonu]

Russia is completely bogged down in Ukraine. It's a slog for them (with only a token amount of money spent compared to afghanistan ).

If we withdraw pressure then it frees them up to help Iran, China, Venezeula get up to all sorts.

The US has already sent multiples more to Ukraine than it spent in 20 years in Afghanistan. That's even accounting for the 8 billion Biden's administration sent the Taliban after leaving Afghanistan with his tail between his legs.

[Panda-NZ-]

The US has already sent multiples more to Ukraine than it spent in 20 years in Afghanistan. That's even accounting for the 8 billion Biden's administration sent the Taliban after leaving Afghanistan with his tail between his legs.

Source?

$1.4T was spent by Bush fighting hill-tribes in pickup trucks who managed to elude them for a minimum of 8 years until obama found and killed Bin Laden

$200b was spent to fight the new imperial russian army (and yes some to prop up the ukrainian govt).

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-ed...n-afghanistan/
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much...-going-ukraine

[Daytr]

Would probably get you a job in Hillary Clinton's office though. She of the Russian asset lie. The last 2 Democrat presidents have been Putin's biggest assets towards his consolidation of power and probable aims to return Russia's borders to that of the old Soviet Union.

Putin lays siege to Georgia, invades Crimea and shoots down a civilian airliner under Obama (at least his forces did). Invades Ukraine and squeezes Euro gas supply under Biden. Then Biden helps him further by blowing up the undersea gas pipeline! (Biden even said he would do that 12 months earlier). The losers in the gas fiasco? The European public. The big gainers? US gas interests.

So you are blaming the Democrats for Putin's actions. What a twisted view on things, but at least you're consistent.

How dare the Ukraine, Poland or Scandinavian countries choose who they want to align themselves with. How dare they act like an independent sovereign state just because it upsets a dictator next door who murders opposition at will.

How dare the US & Europe stand up to such a despot who wants to reinstate the Russian empire. Ask how many of those previous members of the USSR would want to return to Russian control. Russia first infiltrates which continued under Trump's watch and then invades.

[Daytr]

Source?

$1.4T was spent by Bush fighting hill-tribes in pickup trucks who managed to elude them for a minimum of 8 years until obama found and killed Bin Laden

$200b was spent to fight the imperial russian army (and yes some to prop up the ukrainian govt).

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-ed...n-afghanistan/
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much...-going-ukraine

Comon Panda, don't let facts get in the way of a good viral story.

In Jonu's defence, being a rabbit warren dwelling conspiracy theorist, he gets bombarded by the algorithms with false information all the time and it's hard to decide which is the juicier lie to spread.

[Panda-NZ-]

How dare the US & Europe stand up to such a despot who wants to reinstate the Russian empire. Ask how many of those previous members of the USSR would want to return to Russian control. Russia first infiltrates which continued under Trump's watch and then invades.

Plus the ukranians actually want the help and have asked not only for the means to fight for their own freedom but ours as well.

Jonu complains about withdrawing from the $2t afghanistan adventure (presmuably he wants to stay there for 30 more years) but how many picked up the abandoned weapons and why did the afghan army immediately surrender?

[Bjauck]

So you are blaming the Democrats for Putin's actions. What a twisted view on things, but at least you're consistent.

How dare the Ukraine, Poland or Scandinavian countries choose who they want to align themselves with. How dare they act like an independent sovereign state just because it upsets a dictator next door who murders opposition at will.

How dare the US & Europe stand up to such a despot who wants to reinstate the Russian empire. Ask how many of those previous members of the USSR would want to return to Russian control. Russia first infiltrates which continued under Trump's watch and then invades.

Of course it is Democrat US Presidents, NATO’s defensive alliance, and Russian democrats and opposition that are the aggressors and the problem. Putin is the victim here. ​/irony.

[Panda-NZ-]

Of course it is Democrat US Presidents, NATO’s defensive alliance, and Russian democrats and opposition that are the aggressors and the problem. Putin is the victim here. ​/irony.

You need the other side of the story.

The US had to send the best journalist they have in stock to get it... Tucker Carlson.