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06-07-2024, 09:03 PM
#171
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Your claim was that he had turned from the Lord. A majority of American Catholics don’t think he has. The Roman Catholic Church is not the Lord. Jews and many other Christian denominations support abortion rights of women.
The Catholic church is not a democracy. You might argue the same of the US in its current state. The point is Biden who was previously strongly anti-abortion, mellowed his stance to get the VP, then abandoned his principles altogether to get a shot at the big job.
Christ was never out to win a popularity contest.
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06-07-2024, 09:37 PM
#172
Originally Posted by jonu
The Catholic church is not a democracy. You might argue the same of the US in its current state. The point is Biden who was previously strongly anti-abortion, mellowed his stance to get the VP, then abandoned his principles altogether to get a shot at the big job.
Christ was never out to win a popularity contest.
Your were referring to Jesus Christ - not God?
I do understand the Catholic Church is run by appointed fallible celibate men. Biden is a politician, and they change their positions pragmatically. It is now contrary to the position of his Church.
God however does not belong to these officially celibate men of the Roman Catholic Church. So Biden’s acceptance of abortion rights for women does not necessarily mean that Biden has turned from The Lord.
Last edited by Bjauck; 06-07-2024 at 09:48 PM.
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06-07-2024, 09:43 PM
#173
Originally Posted by Bjauck
I do understand the Catholic Church is run by appointed fallible celibate men. Biden is a politician, and they change their positions pragmatically. It is now contrary to the position of his Church.
God however does not belong to these officially celibate men of the Roman Catholic Church. So Biden’s acceptance of abortion rights for women does not necessarily mean that Biden has turned from The Lord.
What is worse? Turning from his own principles? Suddenly it's OK to slaughter the unborn in their mother's womb? Maybe sleepy Joe doesn't sleep too well at night.
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06-07-2024, 10:43 PM
#174
Originally Posted by jonu
What is worse? Turning from his own principles? Suddenly it's OK to slaughter the unborn in their mother's womb? Maybe sleepy Joe doesn't sleep too well at night.
Are you referring to embryos that are a dependant part of the mother, unviable out of the uterus?
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07-07-2024, 12:26 AM
#175
What's the republican position on reducing child poverty and allievating the heavy burden that low-income american women have?
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07-07-2024, 07:08 AM
#176
Originally Posted by jonu
What is worse? Turning from his own principles? Suddenly it's OK to slaughter the unborn in their mother's womb? Maybe sleepy Joe doesn't sleep too well at night.
The celibate men of the Roman Catholic Church would probably find Trump’s morals more objectionable. Of course Trump’s position on abortion has changed too.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ortion-rights/
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07-07-2024, 07:56 AM
#177
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
What's the republican position on reducing child poverty and allievating the heavy burden that low-income american women have?
When the state enforces maternity on a woman, it literally becomes the nanny state, and should not shirk responsibility.
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07-07-2024, 08:24 AM
#178
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Are you referring to embryos that are a dependant part of the mother, unviable out of the uterus?
Those, also viable babies to full term, and what they endearingly call post birth abortions where they kill the stubborn ones that refuse to die. Sleepy Joe abandoned them all for a shot at the big chair.
Your previous answers sound more like your views on the Catholic church and abortion rather than Sleepy Joe's. Your entitled to them, but your views are not what is being debated here. As a self-professed Catholic Sleepy Joe is meant to accept the Church's position. Nancy Pelosi is sadly cut from the same cloth.
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07-07-2024, 08:39 AM
#179
Originally Posted by jonu
Those, also viable babies to full term, and what they endearingly call post birth abortions where they kill the stubborn ones that refuse to die. Sleepy Joe abandoned them all for a shot at the big chair.
Your previous answers sound more like your views on the Catholic church and abortion rather than Sleepy Joe's. Your entitled to them, but your views are not what is being debated here. As a self-professed Catholic Sleepy Joe is meant to accept the Church's position. Nancy Pelosi is sadly cut from the same cloth.
Your original post said that Biden was turning from the Lord. However it seems you meant turning from the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church.
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07-07-2024, 08:56 AM
#180
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Your original post said that Biden was turning from the Lord. However it seems you meant turning from the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church.
For Biden as a self-professed Catholic it is the same thing. You need to separate your own views and biases. It's Sleepy Joe, not BJauck we are discussing.
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