Was this the start of a US Presidential campaign

[Panda-NZ-]

A new world order is overdue.

The alternatives are worse than America.

Russia needs regime change, and to join europe rather than murdering their own brothers to ally with Asian countries half a world away because they have a "KGB-approved" govt and believe in state media rubbish.

[jonu]

Let’s watch this space.

After watching that debate he might decide to go for it (and be strongly encouraged/begged by his peers) to save the Dems and keep Trump well away from the White House.

That debate was a horror show.

California has gone to hell under Newsom. He's a vacuous mouth piece type in the mould of Trudeau and Ardern. The tide is going out on these types worldwide, so while Newsom might present better than Biden, people have seen California and the hell-hole it's city centres have become, from LA to San Diego to San Francisco.

[Baa_Baa]

May be so but it’s the average American voters who decide who gets into the White House.

Not strictly true, the popular vote doesn't elect the President, the Electoral College elects the President and there are precedents where the Electoral College essentially overrode the popular vote. That's what happened in 2016, and had happened only three times previously in US political history.

[Panda-NZ-]

California has gone to hell under Newsom. He's a vacuous mouth piece type in the mould of Trudeau and Ardern. The tide is going out on these types worldwide, so while Newsom might present better than Biden, people have seen California and the hell-hole it's city centres have become, from LA to San Diego to San Francisco.

It's expensive sure. But Newsom doesn't control federal drug policies, inter-state migration or social services so naturally you get homeless drug addicts everywhere which seems to be much more of an American problem rather than something that applies to other countries. They go the california because it's a decent place to live and many other americans live there.

In a free market you can't build a wall to keep them out either unless it's a prison (the usual red state solution).

[Bjauck]

California has gone to hell under Newsom. He's a vacuous mouth piece type in the mould of Trudeau and Ardern. The tide is going out on these types worldwide, so while Newsom might present better than Biden, people have seen California and the hell-hole it's city centres have become, from LA to San Diego to San Francisco.

Post Covid swings? You should include ideologues such as Sunak, and previous Conservative PMs, in your list of vacuous leaders. Food banks are the growth industry in the UK. The UK will join Australia in having a Labour Government.

[jonu]

Post Covid swings? You should include ideologues such as Sunak, and previous Conservative PMs, in your list of vacuous leaders. Food banks are the growth industry in the UK. The UK will join Australia in having a Labour Government.

I haven't really kept up with Sunak. Covid roosters roosting will be a part, but I think it's deeper than that. Europe has had enough. They are seeing their various cultures disappear under the weight of refugees and immigration. Despite your insistence that Brexit was a horrible mistake, the Euro elections would suggest the continent might be envious of what the UK achieved in getting out. Macron has panicked.

The pendulum has swung. The Left have over reached and the swing will be long and hard. Italy led the way. Argentina followed. Canada and probably France imminent.

[mistaTea]

Rousing speech from Biden at rally.

Sounded good…electable - a shame he was only 20% of that at the debate.

It seems like most elderly he has really good days and then really bad days.

[Bjauck]

I haven't really kept up with Sunak. Covid roosters roosting will be a part, but I think it's deeper than that. Europe has had enough. They are seeing their various cultures disappear under the weight of refugees and immigration. Despite your insistence that Brexit was a horrible mistake, the Euro elections would suggest the continent might be envious of what the UK achieved in getting out. Macron has panicked.

The pendulum has swung. The Left have over reached and the swing will be long and hard. Italy led the way. Argentina followed. Canada and probably France imminent.

The issue of refugees and how to handle them is a big strain, on the EU and individual frontline countries. It often gets confused with freedom of movement too.

Only 30% of Brits according to yougov polling think that Brexit was the right thing to have done. Nationalist parties in other EU countries no longer want to see their nations leave the EU. They prefer lobbying for reform from within. Le Pen’s French Front National stopped promoting a Frexit several years ago.

You probably aren’t aware of much about Sunak, because the UK have been changing PMs whenever calamities mount up…so three PMs since 2019 - the last election. Four PMs within five years. The UK left the EU in Jan 2020. The right wing government in the UK has been beset by problems other than Brexit, including health system failures, economic and trade decline, Ministerial scandals and conflicts of interest, etc. Brexit dishonesty, stress and incompetence has been a big factor though.

It would be interesting to see how a left wing Starmer gets on with a second term Trump. It will strain the so-called special relationship with the UK. He will need to work hard to keep Trump connected with Europe. Much was made of Boris Johnson’s similarity with Donald Trump as fellow disrupters.

[ynot]

Rousing speech from Biden at rally.

Sounded good…electable - a shame he was only 20% of that at the debate.

It seems like most elderly he has really good days and then really bad days.

Hard to get the measure on medication. sometimes not enough, then next day they nail it. Does not mean he is ok. Far from it.

[mistaTea]

Hard to get the measure on medication. sometimes not enough, then next day they nail it. Does not mean he is ok. Far from it.

Yes I do not think Biden is ok or fit to continue as POTUS.

Just amazing how one day he seems really ‘with it’ and the next day he looks like he should be in an old age home.

It is sad. Could also be them adjusting meds etc. I am no doctor so don’t know about that.