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    Quote Originally Posted by Lego_Man View Post
    Equity selling off, bonds rallying. Suggests Synlait survives, but existing shareholders are effectively diluted out of existence or otherwise extinguished.
    If you take up your entitlement you have the same percentage as prior to the CR, so how do you get diluted out or extinguished? Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ggcc View Post
    How much can they raise via capital raise? Is it up to 10% of the value of the company or more?
    I would think a CR of $180m to pay bondholders. The size of CR does not matter very much because both the loan and the majority of CR come from Bright. If A2M does not participate in CR, Bright would get close to 90% shareholding and make a compulsory takeover.

    After the game ends, Bright should be able to enhance the performance of its assets or sell Pokeno/Dunsdale at the right time.

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    i just find it hard to see how they can survive

    with 585m debt


    based on there ebit forecast of 45 - 60m that would imply they could have only round 300m debt which they could service on those ebit figures
    so that implies a cap raise of say 300m and issue of at least 2.5 billion shares at say 12c
    probably need to raise more for a buffer if conditions dont improve
    Last edited by bull....; 26-06-2024 at 04:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikeguy View Post
    I would wonder if Brights plan was receivership then it doesn’t make sense to put up the loan? Simply let SML default on the 130 mil and they get that outcome? No risk that shareholders will vote it in etc?

    My thoughts are that A2 do not want to be part of a capital raise which will see them lose their blocking stake as Bright will increase their holding…

    It’s such a pity, SML need a major volume customer, A2 need a manufacturer (and it helps that this one is a direct channel to their biggest market) I hope this gets sorted out and they make up and all make money again 
    because currently they’re on the hook for a 130M underwrite with no security. They need the loan to get it secured against assets. Receivership just means they burn 130M with nothing to show for it, and the bank is happy because they get paid

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    i just find it hard to see how they can survive

    with 585m debt
    less 130 m loan
    equals 455m debt still

    based on there ebit forecast of 45 - 60m that would imply they could have only round 300m debt which they could service on those ebit figures
    so that implies a cap raise of say 150m and issue of at least 1.2 billion shares at say 12c
    probably need to raise more for a buffer if conditions dont improve
    why are you deducting the 130m loan? its still debt

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    Quote Originally Posted by billkiapi View Post
    because currently they’re on the hook for a 130M underwrite with no security. They need the loan to get it secured against assets. Receivership just means they burn 130M with nothing to show for it, and the bank is happy because they get paid
    But the 130 mil loan is behind the banks so they would get nothing anyway?

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    We are talking about a country that can smother the fallout of a 300 billion collapse (Evergrande)
    So I personally don’t think 500 odd mil of debt is going to scare them…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawz View Post
    why are you deducting the 130m loan? its still debt
    haha your right in a rush off the top head stuff changed my figures
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Plenty of shares on offer for the risk takers out there.

    Just don't get you Dr and Cr 's mixed up between your p&l and balance sheet.

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    But ahead of bonds, so secured is much better than joining the pool of unsecured.

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