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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Well that told ya Bull! 藍
    It will be interesting if new players look at takeovers. Private equity particularly that can see the opportunity of reducing costs etc. and ride out the cycle.
    yes be interesting , sales will enable valuations to be applied to the nz RV sectors as a guide.
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    An unlikely coalition of New Zealand voters are backing Housing Minister Chris Bishop’s mission to bring down house prices

    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...shop%E2%80%99s

    wow re-sale gains might be very limited if bishop succeeds - its not surprising RV's all near lows. might all even go lower as cashflow dry's up more



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    House prices need to fall 'a further 16%' to become affordable

    Housing Minister Chris Bishop caught attention last week when he said house prices needed to drop

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/...ome-affordable
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    Stats NZ today

    1,704 retirement village units consented in the year ended May 2024 which was down 47 percent

    So sector cutting back
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    bull.That house prices need/will to fall surely will not surprise anyone (apart from that property guru/zealot Ashley Church Talkback Radio).

    But surely folk who need to move into a retirement entity will still move yes ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    House prices need to fall 'a further 16%' to become affordable


    Housing Minister Chris Bishop caught attention last week when he said house prices needed to drop

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/...ome-affordable
    I’m really happy about Housing Minister Chris Bishop’s positive thinking. The biggest household expenses worldwide are rent and mortgage payments.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ing-worldwide/

    House-price-to-income ratio in selected countries worldwide in 4th quarter 2022, by country

    https://rep.infometrics.co.nz/wellin...-affordability

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    Quote Originally Posted by troyvdh View Post
    bull.That house prices need/will to fall surely will not surprise anyone (apart from that property guru/zealot Ashley Church Talkback Radio).

    But surely folk who need to move into a retirement entity will still move yes ?
    yep people who can afford it will move into a retirement village still , if thats there choice.
    If house prices fall 16% say as per article what might happen is some people may no longer be able to sell and move into a retirement village esp if RV businesses held there prices at same level as today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Stats NZ today

    1,704 retirement village units consented in the year ended May 2024 which was down 47 percent

    So sector cutting back
    yep and the big cut back in builds means cashflows will be significantly less in time from new builds but re-sales will become more important. ie less profit and probably no div's due to pullback in development profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valuegrowth View Post
    I’m really happy about Housing Minister Chris Bishop’s positive thinking. The biggest household expenses worldwide are rent and mortgage payments.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ing-worldwide/

    House-price-to-income ratio in selected countries worldwide in 4th quarter 2022, by country

    https://rep.infometrics.co.nz/wellin...-affordability
    The govt need to bring in policies to boost housing supply and reduce over-investment resulting in inflating residential land prices, to back up Bishop’s stated desire. Otherwise it will be an empty statement said safely in the first year of government and long before many of his party’s real estate owning supporters will be scared by such statements, if they were made closer to an election.
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    We seems to hear a lot from the doomsayers, constantly pointing to the sector headwinds, albeit relatively short term focused. That tends to drown out the tailwinds discussion, the largest being the forecast growth in addressable market:

    Screenshot 2024-07-03 at 11.46.51 AM.png

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