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    Quote Originally Posted by davflaws View Post
    Let's just all be very very thankful that the "steering failure" occurred near Picton with only a few people aboard.

    A "steering failure" in Cook Strait with a full complement of passengers would have been potentially bad, even in fine weather, and a failure in the approaches to Tory Channel or Wellington Harbour would have been horrendous. Add some moderate (for Cook Strait) weather and you are looking at potentially huge loss of life.
    That is a risk you run on any vessel at any time. That is why good maintenance is of paramount importance to reduce such risks. Looking at Interislander's recent history, one has to question their ability to properly maintain their vessels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsup View Post
    IMHO dont you mean Helen Davis, she is/was married to Peter Davis !
    Wonen are no longer the property of men. The patriarchy is crumbling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Wonen are no longer the property of men. The patriarchy is crumbling?
    So are you saying if she used his name he would own her ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    So are you saying if she used his name he would own her ?
    Clearly that is what Bjauck meant - his mind still stuck in the dark ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    So are you saying if she used his name he would own her ?
    No longer for husbands. I know women retain the right of surname choice. It seems Whatsup thinks or wishes otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Clearly that is what Bjauck meant - his mind still stuck in the dark ages.
    Just aware of history and the archaic attitudes held by some.

    BTW I can speak for myself. I am not your “*itch”.
    Last edited by Bjauck; 23-06-2024 at 10:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    No longer for husbands. I know women retain the right of surname choice. It seems Whatsup thinks or wishes otherwise.
    Keep on digging Bjauck. Any woman retaining her maiden name believing it will protect her from a tyrant is dreaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    Keep on digging Bjauck. Any woman retaining her maiden name believing it will protect her from a tyrant is dreaming.
    Too true. Family abuse is still only too common. At least there are legal avenues available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Just aware of history and the archaic attitudes held by some.

    BTW I can speak for myself. I am not your “*itch”.
    Your history sucks as much as your archaic mindset.

    “Coverture” is the word you need to familiarise yourself first before you make a fool of yourself.

    https://www.brides.com/why-do-women-...t-name-5116974

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Your history sucks as much as your archaic mindset.

    “Coverture” is the word you need to familiarise yourself first before you make a fool of yourself.

    https://www.brides.com/why-do-women-...t-name-5116974
    Google is not your friend.

    Under English law (on which NZ law is based) until the late C19th, married women lost their separate legal rights. Decisions were made by the husband.

    Clark made her own decision on her surname. Some seem to object to this.

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