Nat/act/nzf 2023

[Bjauck]

So divisive.. we're all in this together, friend.

The meals are being given to the kids not the parents.

I really cannot understand the objection that some have over provided school lunches. It is a way to ensure a state benefit actually is received by the child.

It is a small way to make sure NZ’s children are given a reasonable start, no matter the environment they find themselves in. Just as it is important make sure our old folk are cared for too.

The state used to provide school milk. How about a ready to drink carton of ensure or another meal replacement. It would be a cheap alternative providing nutrition for children. No heating or refrigeration needed.

[ynot]

I really cannot understand the conniptions that some have over provided school lunches. It is a way to ensure a state benefit actually is received by the child.

It is a small way to make sure NZ’s children are given a reasonable start, no matter the environment they find themselves in. Just as it is important make sure our old folk are cared for too.

The state used to provide school milk. How about a a ready to drink carton of ensure or another meal replacement. It would be a cheap alternative providing nutrition for children. No heating or refrigeration needed.

I see it as a reflection of what this country has become that it is deemed a necessity. If you can't feed them don't breed them.

[Bjauck]

I see it as a reflection of what this country has become that it is deemed a necessity. If you can't feed them don't breed them.

That’s fine as far as the parents are concerned. So why not provide some direct help for the kids.

[Bjauck]

I see it as a reflection of what this country has become that it is deemed a necessity. If you can't feed them don't breed them.

NZ is a broken society with a broken economic system then. So many families need state help to support their families whether it is free medical and dental appointments, wff, accomodation supplements or help etc. Yet it is school lunches that is a step too far.

With so many families needing state support to keep their heads above water. Perhaps we should rely on third world immigrants rather than NZ’s own children?

[jonu]

NZ is a broken society with a broken economic system then. So many families need state help to support their families whether it is free medical and dental appointments, wff, accomodation supplements or help etc. Yet it is school lunches that is a step too far. ....

Hence Balance continually beating the drum about Ardern/Hipkins forever seeking to grow their dependent supporter base. See how vile it is?

The system is to an extent broken, and it will be bloody difficult to turn it around without serious pain for a generation...which is of course politically unacceptable.

[blackcap]

Hence Balance continually beating the drum about Ardern/Hipkins forever seeking to grow their dependent supporter base. See how vile it is?

The system is to an extent broken, and it will be bloody difficult to turn it around without serious pain for a generation...which is of course politically unacceptable.

Which in turn leads to more deprivation and an ever increasing state... which is very much politically acceptable.

[Bjauck]

Hence Balance continually beating the drum about Ardern/Hipkins forever seeking to grow their dependent supporter base. See how vile it is?

The system is to an extent broken, and it will be bloody difficult to turn it around without serious pain for a generation...which is of course politically unacceptable.

We are on the same page! However I would add that previous National Givernments too have been complicit in developing the broken system.

[Daytr]

I see.
So the big stick of the state will be used to extort tax from the good parents who feed their children, to hand over to those that don't.

What a cop out.

What say the big stick is used to decrease the benefits of parents who are on one, by the value of the school lunches consumed by their children, and increase tax on working parents who don't feed their kids by the same amount.

Anyone think this would send a better signal to parents to care for their family first, rather than squander on selfish bad choices?

It's like food banks.

They give away free food and suddenly there is more demand for them.

What a surprise.
Who would of thought?

No doubt the socialists will opt for anything that increases state dependence, with the likes of school lunches.

Getty, all bluster and no solutions.
Please by all means offer a solution that will prevent kids going hungry.
I'm all ears.

The State funds many things, including children's dentistry, subsidizes prescription drugs, pays the pension, subsidizes child care.
Anyone could argue that these should all be responsibility of the individual.
Ahhh but hungry kids doesn't cut it and in this case the victims, the kids aren't responsible.

[Daytr]

Hence Balance continually beating the drum about Ardern/Hipkins forever seeking to grow their dependent supporter base. See how vile it is?

The system is to an extent broken, and it will be bloody difficult to turn it around without serious pain for a generation...which is of course politically unacceptable.

Yeah the broken system happened in three years eh. 🙄
How about the broken system over the last 30 years or so was exposed by the pandemic and put the broken system into acute arrest.

Honestly you guys that blame Ardern for everything. What did Key do in his nine years to address any of these issues?
Oh yeah he under funded them. Education, health, DOC, housing.

[blackcap]

Honestly you guys that blame Ardern for everything. What did Key do in his nine years to address any of these issues?
Oh yeah he under funded them. Education, health, DOC, housing.

And therein lies the problem. State funding is not the solution.