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23-11-2023, 12:57 PM
blackcap

Dutch Elections

Fantastic news out of Holland with Geert Wilders' PVV party becoming the largest with about 35 seats. He is likely to be the next Prime Minister.

After what happened in Argentina with Javier, there seems to be a detectable shift away from "**** leftards".
23-11-2023, 03:09 PM
Daytr

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Originally Posted by blackcap

Fantastic news out of Holland with Geert Wilders' PVV party becoming the largest with about 35 seats. He is likely to be the next Prime Minister.

After what happened in Argentina with Javier, there seems to be a detectable shift away from "**** leftards".

I don't know much about him but going by Wiki he sounds like disgusting xenophobic racist.
23-11-2023, 03:33 PM
blackcap

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Originally Posted by Daytr

I don't know much about him but going by Wiki he sounds like disgusting xenophobic racist.

You can go by whatever you like. But I like Geert, have been following him for a while. I actually voted for Thierry (FvD) myself, but looks like he will only get 3 or so seats. Wilders is 2nd option. He is calling out the unfettered migration and the islamisation of Holland and wants to put a stop to it. Good on him.
23-11-2023, 08:53 PM
Daytr

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Originally Posted by blackcap

You can go by whatever you like. But I like Geert, have been following him for a while. I actually voted for Thierry (FvD) myself, but looks like he will only get 3 or so seats. Wilders is 2nd option. He is calling out the unfettered migration and the islamisation of Holland and wants to put a stop to it. Good on him.

Well you like the criminal Trump as well so nothing surprises me.
23-11-2023, 09:35 PM
blackcap

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Originally Posted by Daytr

Well you like the criminal Trump as well so nothing surprises me.

Your implied threats don't worry me one bit.

Wilders loves his country and wants the best for it. He is patriotic. He is worried about what is happening with unfettered immigration and the damage to the Dutch culture.
If that makes him a disgusting xenophobic racist, well I would be proud to be one of them too.
24-11-2023, 08:48 AM
Daytr

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Originally Posted by blackcap

Your implied threats don't worry me one bit.

Wilders loves his country and wants the best for it. He is patriotic. He is worried about what is happening with unfettered immigration and the damage to the Dutch culture.
If that makes him a disgusting xenophobic racist, well I would be proud to be one of them too.

Well I am glad any implied threat doesn't worry you, as you have just imagined it.
Please point out where there is an implied threat.

As for your Dutch hero, he has said far worse against Muslims than just having views on immigration.
24-11-2023, 09:08 AM
blackcap

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Originally Posted by Daytr

Well I am glad any implied threat doesn't worry you, as you have just imagined it.
Please point out where there is an implied threat.

As for your Dutch hero, he has said far worse against Muslims than just having views on immigration.

Oh you were being clever, trying to conflate my political position with me personally.

As for Muslims. Geert actually likes them as people. It is the ideology he despises, as do I. That being radicalised Islam. Good on him for calling it out and wanting to de-islamise The Netherlands.

p.s, have you ever been to The Netherlands? Lived there? I have, for a number of years. I know what I am talking about.
24-11-2023, 02:46 PM
nztx

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Originally Posted by blackcap

Oh you were being clever, trying to conflate my political position with me personally.

As for Muslims. Geert actually likes them as people. It is the ideology he despises, as do I. That being radicalised Islam. Good on him for calling it out and wanting to de-islamise The Netherlands.

p.s, have you ever been to The Netherlands? Lived there? I have, for a number of years. I know what I am talking about.

Heard the same from friends who visited there & family who know what is going on there ..
24-11-2023, 03:24 PM
Daytr

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Originally Posted by blackcap

Oh you were being clever, trying to conflate my political position with me personally.

As for Muslims. Geert actually likes them as people. It is the ideology he despises, as do I. That being radicalised Islam. Good on him for calling it out and wanting to de-islamise The Netherlands.

p.s, have you ever been to The Netherlands? Lived there? I have, for a number of years. I know what I am talking about.

Yes I have been there a number of times but admittedly it was some time ago.
I really don't know what you are on about re trying to conflate or threaten.
None of that is true.
27-11-2023, 01:09 PM
Bjauck

Wilders had a referendum on leaving the EU as part of his manifesto. Unlike the UK the Netherlands has been at the heart of the Euro project with fewer opt-outs than the UK.

There seem to be posters with Dutch connections on here. Given the dog’s dinner of the British exit, and the internal political, economic, trade and extra inflationary and bureaucratic impact on the UK since it actually left on 31/01/2020, How likely is it that the Dutch would vote to leave? Also is Wilders a comparatively more honest politician than Johnson ever was?
27-11-2023, 02:43 PM
Panda-NZ-

You have the ukraine thing since brexit and to a lesser extent the pandemic. I think people can see the benefit of being in a larger grouping considering the unpredictable and scary world out there.
27-11-2023, 03:01 PM
Bjauck

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Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-

You have the ukraine thing since brexit and to a lesser extent the pandemic. I think people can see the benefit of being in a larger grouping considering the unpredictable and scary world out there.

The Netherlands is a member of NATO and is not an ex-Soviet Republic with a long shared border with Putin. The EU is also finding it difficult to maintain a common approach towards Russia, Palestine/Israel etc. as a result of the divergence of opinions amongst member states.