4.5 mill on ASX and 1.25 mill on the NZX is hardly small guys. and you are aware that bots etc feed the shares in in small lots endlessly and of hidden iceberg sellers etc i hope. So no we hav e no idea who is selling and how big or tiddly they are imo. T/A wise its broken down through the 60 and 180 DMA on my admittedly basic ASB chart. wishful thinking re takeover or have you seen some smoke?