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tell me more about Warren Freer. I'm interested because I read a book he wrote a couple of years ago. I think he passed away, lived to well in his 90s
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Daytr.We live in a democracy. If you think a crime has been committed, report it to the police. Put it in writing - for some reason written complaints attract a lot more attention than the spoken word.
If you think that there is major fraud and all the things you have listed, put your concerns or allegations in writing and send to the relevant authority - heaven knows,we have enough of them here.
If all else fails, enrol to vote and cast your vote for whomsoever YOU would like to see running the country.
If you wake up the next morning on the losing side, tough, you were probably wrong and more people disagree with you than you think.
If you are still driven to convert others to your thinking, become a missionary
Like Sgt Pepper, I think that a worsening economy overseas, that impacts NZ, could be another nail in the coffin of National, come 2017.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/economy/ne...ay+1+June+2015
It's hard to cheer yourself up by cutting firewood, when you have a strong suspicion that the National Govt could have done a great deal more for NZ as a whole, in the last seven years.
Craic, really, a democracy. And here I was thinking I was living in China, well that's where this sort of behavior, outside of FIFA, is common place.
Trying to convert people to what? Having integrity?
And really I can vote for whoever I choose, who knew!
Thanks for pointing that out.
If you would rather this was just a cosy up for your right wing buddies, sorry for crashing the party, however we are all entitled to our opinion because as you rightly point out we are in a democracy, although Key has done his outmost to impinge on all NZers civil liberties.
You are welcome to crash the party and I am not aware of any right-wing buddies. I never ask my friends who they vote for. some are avid Labour supporters and I buy them a drink when they get depressed.
Haha Labour again. I'm starting to think National supporters have a fixation with Labour.
Virtually every post from National supporters say something a long the line of Labour would only do worse, or its Labour's fault even though they haven't been in power for over two terms.
I think Labour are weak kneed & are floundering for direction.
However I would rather have little (pardon the pun) direction than going in the wrong one.
National's new form of privatisation, privatising mental health. Watch now for the re-emergence of asylums.
Bulk warehousing of patients. Its what's on offer for people with disabilities (in the form of group homes) since National has withdrawn funding after the last election.
When will it end? Will the Government actually run anything or will it all be corporatized?
This is going down the same path as the US in regards health & social services.
Private enterprise is loving this government as its a cash cow.
Big corporates run America & the government is indebted to the eyeballs whilst corporates make billions & then offshore their tax. This is a great model to follow obviously, if all you care about is greed.
Fantastic!
Sounds about right, Daytr. Although you shouldn't underestimate Labour. Colin James has this article about the Greens.
http://www.colinjames.co.nz/a-next-g...sed-long-term/
Woolly sheep deal in the Herald editorial. Yet another coverup by National.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/ne...ay+2+June+2015
Sgt Pepper, a bit more about Warren Freer since you are interested. He became a Labour MP at the then tender age of 27, having been a reporter until then. He was very keen on then Communist China. He was rather careless with his money as he became technically bankrupt and fled to China to avoid due process in NZ. As Labour only had a majority of 2 it was essential that Freer came back, so amidst much grumbling the Labour MPs and some members stumped up enough money to save him and of course Labour went out in 1960 while Kiwi Keith Holyoake went on to win 4 terms. When Labour came back in in 1972 Norman Kirk made him Minister of Trade and Industries where he was noted for his impression of King Canute, trying to hold rising prices back. He had a scheme, MRP - maximum retail price which people pronounced MURP in a deep voice and the MRP was popularly thought to stand for Minister of Rising Prices and naturally the MRP became the minimum retail price and not enough bureaucrats could be found to administer its infinite bureaucratic demands. After Labour went out he slipped steadily down the pecking order, made a few ineffectual press releases but soon gave that up. After he retired from Parliament he was first involved in an Immigration "Consultancy" and had a piece of land near Auckland, Kaipara Harbour I think it was, which in association with China he tried to develop into shrimp farms. There was then a scandal when it was discovered it was staffed by Chinese peasants living in absolutely appalling conditions like the slave fishermen the fishing consortiums have employed. After that he became even more secretive and conspiracy ridden and quietly slipped away to Queensland. He was an author of the Homosexual Law Reform Act (not sure if I have the name right) but later desperately sought to avoid being lauded and glorified by NZ's GLBT movement. I think the only trace of him is the football field in his old Auckland electorate named after him. My sister who once worked in Parliament Buildings told me he was part of a small group of MPs who delved into the restricted Parliamentary Library pornography collection with great avidity. There - that enough for you?
You forgot to mention that he was the MP for Mt Albert for 34 years, and was succeeded by Helen Clark. If he offended the electorate at all, it wasn't enough to have him voted out, and they had plenty of chances.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Freer
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...ren-freer-dies
EZ, the more I read your posts the more I am convinced that you think the only way Labour will win in 2017 is if National lose. That's not really winning is it.
I'm beginning to think that Labour doesn't have any relevance at the moment. It has lost its way - what does it stand for EZ. If the electorate wants a change (ie pissed off with National) why would they turn en masse to Labour. If they want change I see the likes of Green or NZ First getting just as many disenchanted voters as Labour. Where would that leave Labour?
Only 27 or so months to go EZ and as an interested observer I haven't heard that Labour narrative yet,