I'm saying it doesn't matter which side is in for most of the well run businesses.
NZX and house prices both up where they are down in Australia.
We're #1 in business freedom up from 2 and 3 under the last low ambition team ..
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I'm saying it doesn't matter which side is in for most of the well run businesses.
NZX and house prices both up where they are down in Australia.
We're #1 in business freedom up from 2 and 3 under the last low ambition team ..
An engineer with experience gets paid $150,000+ whileas a cleaner with 20 years experience gets paid $40,000. Why?
One is obviously more valuable than the other and that is the reality of society.
Unworthy does not come into it but that's how peasants think and that term & it’s inappropriate use is what defines tim23. You can take the peasant out of the village but you cannot take the village out of the peasant.
Are they though? Not quite so cut and dried.
A rubbish collector may get paid $40k also but when the rubbish mounts up people get upset that they aren't working.
When the poorly paid nurse aides aren't there to nurse aide people get upset.
When the engineer isn't engineering they don't notice for quite a while (if ever).
(PS - don't bother to try and categorise me as communist - I'm just pointing out the fallacy of your trope)
I understand that fully and know why I get the $150k not the $40k.
Though anyone can do it not everyone wants to do it - obviously there are enough, at the moment, who want to do it that the rate is low (supply and demand).
Teachers and nurses (and Police) have been an interesting example where the supply/demand model had broken down.
Interesting how there was low supply and high demand for both but the pay rate didn't go up. Being mostly publicly employed broke the linkage.
You said 'more valuable' - I was suggesting a different valuation method.
This makes the Greens spendup in Taranaki look almost sensible. That sneaky Grant Robertson has been in the pork barrel at our expense. Clear and Transparent....that's what we were promised wasn't it?
https://karldufresne.blogspot.com/20...rs-bid-to.html
"Clearly" they are happy to spend our money to win seats without even a business plan or evidence of economic benefit. Labour "Transparently" has it snout in our trough for its own political purposes.
Gee it must be a hell of a rush to have billions of dollars of other peoples money to wallow in while you guzzle at the trough. The moniker "Piggy" might just have a new incarnation in that rotund Finance Minister who is sniffling his way through our grandchildren's taxes for his own power grab.
More of what was promised in the attachment here:
Attachment 11953
No wonder the PM doesn't want to talk policy, only COVID
Government of incompetents designating supermarkets & cleaning services essential - does not change the fact that there are plenty of workers who can do the menial job of the cleaner & supermarket worker - in fact, their pay should be reduced to reflect the increased supply of tens of thousands of available workers due to the mishandling of the lockdown by the team of incompetents.
Welcome to real world, grasshopper.
Think you’re part of the 31% balance ....
What is telling for me is that even though Judith is supposedly unloved and hated she is leading the MSM polls on who won the debate last night. Jacinda was floundering out there, Judith was enjoying it and she softened her up nicely for the next two. 3 weeks is a very long time in politics. Jacinda was nothing but slogans. Empty and no substance.
Judith definitely won and it was obvious to people that know what is going on, but to the uninformed all they see is someone attacking the most loved prime minister ever. I'm not sure if the eye rolling and under the breath comments will be doing Judith any favours, and she needs to tread the fine line of holding the government to account while not over stepping into 'attack politics'.
Real world it may be but does it have to be that way?
This is very much right wing thinking - you have little skill so should just accept the crumbs that fall off my table.
Like reviving the class system from the UK that the early settlers were trying to escape from.
There has to be a better way than 'us and them'.
You will be one of the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
(Added that bit for levity. :scared:)
Judith isn't leading the poll for preferred PM.
These people seem to think differently - mostly.
Maybe they were watching a different debate.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...f-nzs-election
I was not talking about leading the poll for preferred PM. By the way, the PM pretty much always leads them regardless. I was talking about who won the debate. And all the momentum is with Judith. You have provided a few anecdotes, (anecdotes don't vote and are these anecdotes per chance academics?) the latest version of the poll has Judith on 55% and Jacinda on 39%.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12367099
If you missed the leaders debate and still want to see it, it's available for viewing on https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/1-news-vote-2020 TVNZ On Demand.
I thought Jacinda came across as awkward and uncomfortable, struggling to find a comfortable position between failure to deliver (almost anything) and trotting out slogans. Judith on the other hand had a very strong grip on the data and seemed to revel in the debate, calling out Labours' failures and hollow promises while clearly stating what National would do differently.
Not that I'm voting for either of them, but it was an interesting debate to watch, imho.
I didn't think he was too bad at making sure order was maintained, but he certainly failed to get clarification on several points from both sides.
Mostly the problem was the whole thing felt so rushed. There is far too much to talk about to squeeze it into the confines of 1.5hours less ads. It should be 3 hours long and tax payer funded so there is no ad breaks to destroy the flow.
I thought he did well to stay unbiased, but agree he didn't allow for great points to be made. A good moderator knows in advance exactly how JC and JA will answer each question, and he should have a follow up question/rebuttal ready to go. That's what makes Hosking one of the best interviewers in the country.
In saying that, Judith needed to better finish the points she was trying to make by herself. Simply stating she wants to amend the RMA doesn't mean much to the mums and dads watching at home, most of them wouldn't even know what RMA stands for. She needs to quickly explain why the RMA in its current form is restrictive, and then explain how the changes would make a difference in simple Simon terms. Heck, create a slogan for it if you have to :D
Fell off my chair laughing MH one of the best interviewers made my day - the most biased commentator i think their has ever been on the MSM his fawning over national was a joke not sure he asked JK or BE any hard questions every , much like his facials on the night of the election when he found out Winnie went left - priceless.
Crusher can certainly sling mud and appeal to poor old farmers but not the urban voters - the fact she has to cosy up to farmers just goes to show how worried they are of losing voters to act.
Over 4000 new people went on to Jobseeker Support in the week ending 11 September. We can assume they all lost their jobs. Quite possibly there are others who have also lost jobs but not showing up in the JS system yet. Possibly still on the CIRP (lost job but still on the special relief payment, over 16,000 still on CIRP) or have moved to other benefits.
You might not consider 4000 lost jobs in a week massive but it is certainly not trivial and represents a lot of stress and misery. And we can expect most of those on CIRP to move to the JS soon as entitlement comes to an end.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300...economist-says
Ignorance is bliss - 4 legs good, 2 legs better. So easily fooled by Cindy’s cynical use of taxpayers’ funds to stay in power to fluff around like she has in the last 3 years.
‘More than 60 per cent more people are now receiving Jobseeker Support work-ready benefits than the same time a year ago – and the number of people aged under 24 on the benefit has leapt 80 per cent.‘
The rate went down to 4% until the second lockdown.
Nats have decades long of experience appealing to mostly low education farmers and creating an imaginary urban/rural split so that is where the solid 30% for Judy comes from. Similar to the 40% of trump voters who don't shift no matter what.
I and most city and suburban voters want their sprinklers to work when the water is turned on frankly.
1. Winnie didn't go left on election night.
2. Nobody understands the topic of the interview better than Hosking, no matter what the conversation is about. He's researched, and he knows what the interviewee will say before they say it. It allows for better flow and for better interrogation on any BS. Of course he is biased, they all are. That doesn't mean he doesn't know his stuff which is the point being made here. Keep up.
Cindy extended it to run until Sept 1st, at that time within 3 weeks of the original election date.
What would I have done better? I wouldn't have committed to 150 BILLION new debt without an exit strategy from endless lockdowns and closed borders. Six months in and still no exit strategy other than a vaccine which may never materialise. If there is no vaccine we will have to let the virus run at some point, in which case most of this new debt is complete waste. Comforting thought eh?
I would have been far less restrictive on what businesses had to close at level 4. Virtually everyone in NZ went through a supermarket under level 4. As far as I'm aware, not 1 case of transmission was tracked to a supermarket. Butchers and Greengrocers were obvious to everyone at the time.
There is a hell of a list, some with the benefit of hindsight, most, glaringly obvious to anyone who hadn't been cowering in the fear that Cindy and her cohort ramped up.
CIRP is still open for a couple of months and is a covid subsidy costing tens of millions of dollars. Over 16000 on it now and some or most will move to Jobseeker when their 12 weeks ends. If they haven't found work they will be pretty unhappy with the much reduced JS rate.
The unemployed situation - shows how easily the ‘4 legs good, 2 legs better’ brigade are hoodwinked by Cindy & her team of incompetents who have delivered bugger all.
And they want another 3 years from the All Spin but No Delivery Cindy team.
https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/202...ittle-to-cheer
So much for Cindy’s pledge to make homes affordable for 1st home buyers.
What a freaking disaster this pathetically inadequate and good for nothing but slogan mouthing woman is.
2019 - the year of delivery.
2019 - The Prime Minister on 2 minute achievements vid.
2020 election campaign - delivery crickets, aspirations lots.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work...23baae6b6881b1
An indication of what awaits NZ post the election - an unemployment bloodbath.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12367372
This is Cindy & Labour at its most cynical - splashing out billions of dollars on handouts is good, but tax cuts for the hard pressed middle income earners is bad.
Excerpt : ‘Labour has gone to some lengths to convince voters the tax cuts are actually bad for them. Ardern and Robertson have talked about the tax cuts as if they are lollies being offered by a strange man, calling them "unrealistic" and "irresponsible".’
In other words, Labour is about rewarding dependency but punishing thrift & hard work.
You Labourite lot can keep your Cindy & reap what you sow in the future. Despicable politics of envy & vote buying with taxpayers’ money - Cindy & her team who cannot even deliver a loaf of bread from the oven.
For what its worth, I think the worm has finally turned. Yesterday I put $1,000 on National to provide the next PM at 15.50. That means that if Labour win I lose $1,000. If National win I take $14,500.
We shall see where this lands. I may trade some out but at these prices and after the debate and 3 weeks being a long time in politics I am comfortable with my position.
I don't like NATIONAL's idea of tax cuts at all. High chance the money will not get spent on stuff that keeps the wheels turning. Although personally we would benefit. I do like ACTS idea of reducing the GST tax, 15 ->10%. Seems like a better way to target any tax relief.
You are probably right on the spending.
Those that really need it (those under $40k) will get $8/week - that will set them up for life right?
If National won I'd like to see Act in a position to have some real heft - up to now they haven't really had any power at all.
Have Act shown the numbers on what the drop would mean in terms of revenue lost verses extra spending power to different income bands?
National have talked about the 'average' earner with their tax cuts but not broken it down to how many are in any band.
This Labour response is tired. Those earning under $40k are not paying any tax at all so of course they don't get a benefit from a tax cut. They are already receiving more in tax credits than the tax they pay. Why do you have so much against the average Kiwi family getting a bit of a help for a few months ?
I do however agree with RTM that ACT's policy of a temporary lower GST across the board would be my preference, but Labour's argument about "$8/week better of" is typical rubbish and disregard for hard working families.
Which ever party (s) is in power I think the Tax brackets need to be shifted to take into account the movement (up) in average wages and put on a regular review cycle
I think too that most of the tax cut would go on paying down debt etc and not spent as the intention and IMHO all things being equal - that is you are coping on current income, would be the sensible thing to do and as dobby says those that really need do not get a lot and will spend it, but will not be a huge help to the economy.
Voting: Undecided at this point but won't be NZ1st
A typical response - why do you assume that I have anything against the average Kiwi family?
I just think harping on that the 'average' family will be $60/wk better off ignore the half that don't have enough now and won't be much better off at all.
I'll be $60 better off too, I don't need it but I won't be giving it back either. Actually I may increase my 'giving' by $60/wk.
I don't. Act have some excellent ideas, but lowering GST on a temporary basis. isn't one of them. It's messy and administratively a nightmare for businesses and the IRD. Why not leave it alone and bring in a tax free bracket on the first xxxx % of earnings? For a start we (nearly) all have a common financial year date. Not so with GST, but there are more complications than that. We have probably the best GST system in the world - leave well alone. Any exemptions or temporary adjustments will destroy its simplicity.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12367479
Photo op - back to wearing the hijab (symbol of oppression) despite pleas from oppressed Muslim women in countries like Iran for Cindy not to do so.
How cynical can you get? The Muslim votes are more important than human rights obviously to the spinning Cindy.
Oh the irony. The Muslim chap speaking says we musn't let this change who we are. Doesn't bother Cindy when there's a vote to be had. Whip on that hijab and throw your principles out the window to appease. Hope it costs her votes with Muslim women who want shod of the hijab, and those votes of kiwis who think it unreasonable to subjugate women in this way.
This for a start
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/chr...-wrong-message
There are plenty of Muslim women around the world who refuse to where the hijab. Some of them are even ALLOWED not to!
But Go Cindy! Encourage subjugation of women. She's sooo progressive!
It seems that Ardern has chosen a reasonably strict interpretation of dressing modestly. She presumably chose this conservative modesty for its symbolic value. The clothing that Muslim women choose does vary according to the nature and the culture of where they live.
According to Pew Research over half of Muslim women in the USA do not cover their hair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab
Countries like France & even Turkey ban the hijab - guess Cindy thinks she knows better than them?
As long as there’s votes, Cindy will always do what’s convenient - bugger human rights and all that garbage. Her high principles are solely to hoodwink the ‘4 legs good, 2 legs’ brigade. Pathetic fools.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...bour-coalition
Surely not! Collins’ claim of state housing list skyrocketing under Cindy is only somewhat true?
Over 300 funds similar to this to around $ 16 MILLION being thrown about in the name of COVID. Straight from the printers in Wellington
Attachment 11963
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12367660
A good perspective on the cult of Cindy.
"The international glorification of Ardern, I noticed, was filling her and her party with a sense of great accomplishment that was, sorry to say, not always deserved. It was painting a rosy picture of life in New Zealand to rub in the faces of Trump's and Johnson's supporters. To be then recycled locally through flashy headlines, citing this or that posh American or British publication or platform.
For many Kiwis, adoring the Prime Minister became synonymous with patriotism, and it would manifest in various ways and places, including ones where it shouldn't.
Journalists have been attacked for daring to ask director general of health Dr Ashley Bloomfield slightly tough questions at his press conferences last month. Criticism and calls for accountability, online and in real life, are often met with insults and ridicule. The opponents on the other side are not holding back either.
Throughout my 12 years of living in New Zealand, political polarisation has never been wider, and more alarming.
Is this a healthy electoral environment? Do I really want to be part of it? I asked myself many times. The answer was always a bitter "no".
And so I've decided, with great reluctance, to be a passive voter. I'm leaving my ballot blank this year.
France has NOT banned the Hijab - Jacinda knows better than you.
France has banned full face coverings - the Burqa.
Turkey has mostly lifted the ban in Universities, public schools and government buildings.
I find it interesting that the Hijab is very similar to head coverings that very Christian women wore years ago and much like a Nuns head covering - it is very reverent really.
It seems to be offensive only if worn for a Muslim reason.
Now the Burqa - quite a different kettle of fish.
Read this and tell us again that Cindy knows better.
If she does know better, she is intentionally then throwing dirt in the face of oppressed Muslim women.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/chr...-wrong-message
1498 new Jobseeker benefit recipients last week. Better not say 1500 Judith.
Slightly less than the numbers coming off CIRP. That may indicate those have found jobs but not necessarily because of the CIRP criteria such as the very much increased partner income permitted for CIRP. (That means some CIRP recipients will not qualify for JS.)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...al-three-times
More revelations about the carry-on regardinh Ihumatoa with Labour.
I’d be very interested to know what key achieved while in office, I do agree he was very capable at doing the following
-forgetting what he had or hadn’t said
-smiling while cooking a BBQ
- putting up GST when he said he wouldn’t
-doing nothing to solve the housing crisis he called in opposition.
- sold off state assets for a song.
- pulling on some poor girls pony tail repetitively whenever he went to his local cafe.
The one thing I think that worries me the most is his biggest regret in office was to not change the flag. He ended his time in office having used none of his political capital that was the worst thing - mr flip flop simply didn’t want to be on the wrong side of public opinion and achieved next to nothing over 9 years on power.
In the 1960's lots of women in the West used to wear scarves covering their hair. Then there is a the passage from the Christian bible:“Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.” (1 Corinthians 11:10)
So whether the head and hair is covered is not just an Islamic thing.
Just like Collins who refuses to condemn several of her MPs for making up a fake quote from Ardern. Nothing like untruths to boost the campaign I guess.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ted-by-her-mps
This is too funny. Criticising TWO MPs for repeating the PM slagging farming once again but a slight misquote, that did not change at all what they were pointing out. But you also made up in your one sentence that there were "several" MPs involved when the article you posted names TWO.
"several
adjective [ not gradable ]
US /ˈsev·rəl, -ər·əl/
(of an amount or number) more than two and fewer than many; some:"
Offset by a redcution in income tax. This was means tested across all earners and everyone was better off.
The only people negatively effected by a GST increase combined with an income tax reduction, were those who were spending more than they earned. I would suggest if you were spending more than you earned you have bigger problems than JK tinkering with the tax system.
LOL. There is no such thing as a "slight misquote". It is a misquote. Are you saying that what the MPs were "pointing out" justified their "slight" misquote? I hope not because that would be another step to dystopia for me!
Anyway the misquote made by the MPs was not slight as it changed the meaning of what Ardern said in a significant way. It says a lot about Collins that she is prepared to let the misquotes by her MPs stand uncorrected. Maybe it is old fashioned to expect better from those seeking public office?
I went to a school in the 1980's. We used British dictionaries back then. We learnt the origin of words. Several is derived from "separare" to "pull apart." So "several" could include anything more than the single unity. Maybe the meaning of several has evolved? One of the meanings of "several" was "some or an inexact amount fewer than many." A "couple" was always two.
So I agree I could have been more specific and referred to two or a couple of MPs. I am not standing to be an MP though!
BTW I am voting for neither The greens nor Labour. However I have not seen or read anything that leads me to the conclusion that Ardern has it in for farmers or farming specifically
https://www.etymonline.com/word/several
It was a broken promise though since he said he wouldn't.
Foneterra has been reformed after poor oversight by national.
Someone as PM who is respected overseas to sell our premium items.
Consistently lower NZD than under the last mob.
So there are plenty of reasons to stick with a team you are familiar with rather than take a chance.