and once that .52 goes --there goes another 100mil:)
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man ,you must be rich if your flying AIR W69:)--( The wife has ditched AIR to Vancouver-Montreal this year in favor of the cheaper option ,going through San Fran--even if it does entail putting up with USA transit)--you can now buy a transit pass--believe that? First they force you to go through customs (security?)and then later turn around and charge you for the privilege of transiting-(thus bypassing immigration)......-(anything to make a buck)
Oil trades within a very tight band ($40-$60 Brent) until the end of 2017, shale producers in the states effectively form a cap or price ceiling as when it becomes economical to turn the taps on again, they have the ability to do so in a matter of weeks. The OPEC agreement (which hasn't been agreed until November), was more an effort to jawbone it off the $45 handle, which was being tested. A move through there would have seen a look at $40.
A large portion of last years profit/dividend was attributed to low fuel, so careful what you wish for. Higher fuel, better utilization of the more efficient fleet does not equal higher profit (may reduce competition however).
Where does everyone see the Share Price in a year from now? I'm already 15% down and although I'm happy hold for a year or two I don't really want to lose much more! Shame on me for buying in the day after the dividend payment thinking things would return to $2.20 levels
No one can really tell you that (SP)Jeremy,just general stuff about what sort of strategy one uses for investing. TA is one way to get some guidance but if your not experienced you may need to do some learning (TA thread)--One way or the other,most would agree that some sort of a plan is prudent. Perhaps set a price that is the most loss you can tolerate and stick to it-- Some do buy and hold although by your question that may not be your cup of tea.That involves a certain amount of faith that things will bounce eventually because the market has come to its senses or the company performance inproves (and outside markets behave themselves)
Perhaps one rough guide is where we are right now--This 180 SP has been a hard fought resistance level that has not been broken yet.That might be a good thing to keep an eye on. If it breaks below that (aside from just a few buys and sells) then perhaps give your ''just in case''plan some thought. Many investors have one right from the start which is not a bad idea. That was my main point when posting around dividend time. not to buy or dont buy ..but just think it through before you decide how much to throw at it,and have a plan just in case things dont come up roses.......but then ..Im just a loser..(took my loss some months ago)
Thanks I'm pretty new to share trading but overall have picked good stocks based on business rationale. AIR has certainly been a lesson for me to not try and catch a falling knife. It's funny looking early this year when the share market was falling and AIR just kept going higher. Who would of thought we'd be in this position 6 months down the track!
You hav'nt done your maths correctly IMO--You hav'nt taken in consideration the correction in the SP at the cutoff time--I believe my rough estimate was somewhere around 6-8% (still in the black though),assuming you sold immediately upon div.closing unless of course ,you held on to your shares.(and then it gets a bit more complicated between dividend influence and company (SP) performance.) Correct me if Im wrong Roger
So when thinking about future div. you need (IMO) to take into consideration the potential drop in the SP (drop in the value of the company) Otherwise whats the point banking the div. if your shares take the corresponding hit? (the ''free money'' debate)
In other words your total profit/loss, in that share
No I didn't take any price correction into consideration. That was my return on the amount of money I had invested into AIR, not on the value of those shares immediately before or immediately after the payout. As I am in for the long term, I believe I have calculated the percentage using the correct method. Now if I have to sell my shares at the current price then I will have a net loss, but I have no intention of selling. Instead I intend holding for a number of years, maybe even 10 to 20 years.
If the SP continues to drop after each dividend by the amount of that divi then within 10 years AIR shares will be free and still paying 20 cps. Somehow, such a long term drop does not seem logical even for a cyclical share.
Seems like Chief of Marketing and Chief Customer guy has cashed in his bonuses and has $726,000 odd more in the bank tonight
Deserved it I reckon - hard working and successful guy
Nothing to do with how the company is performing I reckon - after all he still has 217,000 shares and some more performance rights
No worries here
I think I read that notice correctly
Well,thats the future..Im just bringing up the point that there is a condition attached to that 22% --it was not ''free money'' as only part was free and clear, so this needs to be taken into consideration when using it to ''value'' a share (undervalued?)in terms of the reason for buying or selling.---I believe if you immediately reinvested the dividend back into more shares and then looked at your value ,you would have a better idea--You would end up with more shares and a net worth or more or less than before the dividend,depending. You may still come out sweet,but I personally dont think it can be looked at as a ''given''---Your dividend is a liability to the company that has to be made up in some way to get back to their previous value. --Your banking on them getting back to that value by their performance. Thats fair enough but the dividend alone is not a reason why they are undervalued IMO----IMO that performance is solely what should be concentrated on at this stage--thats where the ''rubber meets the road''(or runway)