But just shows you what a magical place the market is ..... turning $66m into $240m without any profits
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Well, once PEB has sustainable profit and cash flow Balance, it won't need the banks! I'd love to see PEB stay debt free....
On second thoughts...if PEB need another CR, they should go to the Govt in the first instance. Looks like they are a pushover for investing taxpayer's $$$$ :t_up:
It was me and I deleted 546 "deleted" posts of Hancocks which nobody could see anyway.
Vince
I'd say hancocks has had enough.....eeeee.....vince has outed himself, but hey, Gryffyn didn't start this thread!!
I have found the best solution for anti-trolling is to form a private group, entry by invitation only. There are plenty of free hosting sites offering such services. I used them extensively for FX trading groups in a past life - they can be 'live chat' or simply uploading of data, material or comments/conversations. I met and conversed with people from all over the planet - 24/7 there would be someone in the room. The public rooms were atrocious - trolling was much worse than on here. Live chat might be a little over the top for a shareholder group - things don't move quite as fast as FX!!
If the group carries sufficient % of shareholding by proxy, company personnel/directors may make themselves available for 'one on one' casual calls/meetings with a rep of the group (fleshing out, rather than insider info) which can then be distributed privately throughout the group on a confidential basis. Much like fund analyst meetings.
Just an idea for the few of you who put up meaningful research and explanations to genuinely assist others.
Not one of these !!!!!!!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/32ad3362-6...#axzz3RKg2GEZa
I can see why this would seem like a good idea for those who have gotten fed up with what seems like unnecessary noise--but the downside of an exclusive club of verified shareholders is that there is then no one to keep it ''honest''--while not always being pleasant-some of the contrarian views are of real benefit.
I think in the end its a matter of what you are looking for--the truth(not that you will always get it) or what you want to hear---i think in the end ,your experiment would end up back here---You can block posters that you feel are detracting from the thread
Thats fair enough--but it may be of some value to ask your self which views would have been most beneficial to listen to at this stage.
Over on Hot Copper they have it set up so you must acknowledge if you are holding or not and what your view is on the share (buy-hold-sell)
How will you screen posters to see if they are bonified share holders? And more importantly ,how will you get a balanced debate?
And one last thought--if there was an announcement tomorrow and the SP went to $1--would you still feel the same --or would you all come flooding back to celebrate?
I dont think it will work --but nevertheless Good luck:)
Hancocks,
I would imagine that through your patience and knowledge you are sitting very comfortably in the black.
It would be interesting to hear from someone who is deep in the red (other than coutts)
Id like to respectfully ask if you are holding any other shares
I would agree Hancock’s, it’s all about perspective, long investors just want to share and compare and discuss over time.
There are different types of animals, growth investors, value investors, yield investors, each of whom also have different comfort levels across the entire risk reward curve.
There are some who steer away from pre-profitable stocks like PEB altogether preferring lower risk lower reward portfolio’s, absolutely nothing wrong with that either.
It’s different though for a minority of short termers though who spend their day time hours ramping up or down as a full time job, misguidedly I think, despite the big ego’s they don’t have any real influence at all aside perhaps from scaring the newer newbies. A waste of one’s life really.
I don’t see any problem with likeminded investors, bulls and bears, whom hold similar investment strategies getting together, it’s not like it doesn’t happen already by PM now.
The good stuff doesn’t make the forum until it’s already old anyway, and all can still choose to wade through what they each as individuals may each regard as noise on threads like this anyway.
How do you know that PEB is pre -profitable? Is assuming that it will be profitable a given?
How do you know that steering away from PEB to NAN which I consider lower risk is not higher reward?
Some of the posters comments on the DIL thread over time DID have an influence on how I have invested-I learned how to use caution (if thats what you mean by scare tactics then ...
Im a like minded investor...i like to see a black arrow rather than red ..just like the rest
Please get the heck out of ST if you have that kind of attitude - we do not need myopic one eyed cheerleaders/rampers who think the forum is just for them.
Have a read of CRP and NZOG, and read the abuse heaped on those who dare to write and continue to write cautionary (and yes, at times repetitive) comments. Those who listened saved themselves a heap of grief and dole.
So goodbye, NG - glad to see the back of you. :D
Cheers!
Precisely - cheerleaders/rampers like to read only what they prefer to read.
There have been significant developments in the industry PEB operates in but you miss them, and will continue to miss them because you are too busy looking for reinforcements and reaffirmations of your views.
CRP, NZOG, SNK etc - seen it all.
Since everyone has started ''debating'' the SP has gone up 2c (maybe its not such a bad thing eh?):)
Why is it that this particular thread makes contributors more interested in pointlessly slagging each other off than simply addressing the issues like grown-ups? We've already been warned by STMOD, and believe me, this stuff is pretty unedifying.