I wasn't really comparing them , I was more contrasting them - they are at completely different ends of the spectrum. I agree that all of those growth companies have delivered mind blowing gains, I was more saying in these uncertain times Id rather have the money in a company that's stood the test of time and can deliver gains during uncertain times.. ATM IMO has been unfortunate in a current rerate, but will regain its ground at some point in the future. I believe Afterpay will go through the same rerate at some point.