Might want to build a position in ARV, has all the best of those 3, but without the baggage ;) (SUM non profitable care division and inventory issues, OCA's transformation 'bottlenecks', and RYM's ridiculously high PE)
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Comparing OCA to ARV as an investment is no different to comparing OCA to SUM as an investment and that seems OK with most
There is an Arvida ...you might find it be valuable reading. https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showth...&highlight=Arv
Ironic isn't it... that RYM and SUM are mentioned multiple times on this very thread, then someone (such as myself) mentioned ARV once (for the first time in a while) and it is met with accusations of that someone being "monotonous"... quite different to when RYM and SUM are mentioned.... for example, Maverick, MauroNZ, Beagle and LAC have all referenced SUM in the past 3 days (multiple times even during that period of just a few days)... all of them maintaining their same views... yet I can't seem to see any accusation of them being "monotonous"? Anyhow, just thought I'd throw ARV in there again... and despite its impressive performance since it listed over 5 years ago, I can see, ARV still isn't "in the club".
I’m with you t_j ....you didn’t do enough ‘wrong’ to be told off like that
Never mind, one day punters will wake up and see that Arvida is actually a bloody good story and to date a great investment.
Those who completely disregard Arvida are missing a great opportunity - their loss I reckon
I mentioned the other day on this thread Aswath Damodaran (known as ‘The King of Valuation) has a saying - Values don't come from models, but from stories (good or bad).
That applies to Arvida just as much as Oceania
The inverse proportional rule of investment discussion groups is that the best investment companies 'right now' always get the least discussion.
RYM thread is like a graveyard, boring as, like the thread title but a cracking good investment long term. SUM thread wouldn't get a posting if the cheerleaders weren't incessantly repeating, like a good coleslaw does, but also a marvellous long term investment albeit run up way too fast short term. OCA thread gets a hammering because its the most exciting (risky) but currently worst performing, risk-on lovers with long horizons see a bargain so it will generate the most discussion. ARV is like a cross between RYM and SUM but more boring, yawn, except for one avid promoter who throws everyone else into the group of non-lovers just because they don't fill his thread with endless supportive promotion so he has to bag everyone with tiny fonts on other retirement threads.
What does that say? To me it says the monotonous comparison of retirement companies will continue and be monotonous and endless, randomly, on all threads, but more prevalent on the risky companies than the proven performers. But it still generates heaps of discussion, whereas the general retirement thread which some bright soul thought of to deflect those comparisons from single companies and blend the discussion will die a natural death.
Live with it (I tell myself). :sleep:
Problem is a lot of people got pissed of because macca sold out at button price of $1.20 ...SP was reaching $1.40 couple weeks ago. So...a lot of negativity on the thread....I think..let the SP settle for the next couple weeks... especially just XD..once settled..we will see SP go around $1.25 to $1.30
With the pay equity settlement hitting its peak this year combined with that new Dr Lady's bent for spending with little or zero thought for shareholders, methinks expenses are not going to look pretty this year but mums the word from me.