No, I was thinking about the failure of the store and subsequent suicide.
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You keep walking bud and MAINTAIN 2 METRES!!!
So far THE FACTS, unprecedented!
Nearly $12 billion Wage subsidy scheme
Tax Refund Scheme
SmallBusiness cashflow loan scheme
over 6,000 Applicationsin the first few hours
$6.25 billion business finance guarantee scheme
RBNZ nearly doubles quantitative easing programme to $60 billion; Reaffirms forward guidance to keep OCR at 0.25%, but specifically says it's prepared to reduce the OCR further
Specialist ministerial Infrastructure group looking at projects ready to go etc etc etc
The budget to follow with lots more.
I think It's about time we closed this particular line of "discussion" - before Vince does it for us.
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Ok, let's see what kind of help the 'facts' work for someone like Roy Green who had his revenues cut to zero, overnight :
So tell us, JT - what help has Cindy & her bunch of incompetents extended to Roy Green who had his revenues wiped out to zero?
Not a cent in direct support! Instead, he had to run down his precious savings to pay wages, outgoings and his family expenses.
But for beneficiaries who actually do not need additional support, $2.8b in assistance to those receiving benefits, via a $25 per week increase in core benefits from 1 April and a doubling of the winter energy payment. Why?
I think that is an interesting question ... and I am keen to get an honest answer from one of the resident Labour supporters.
While I think that the government did a lot of good moves during the recent crisis to keep us healthy - they clearly prioritize their voters over the rest of the economy. Beneficiaries, state employees and unionized labor (typically working in large companies) are where the money goes - and the rest of the population might get (if they are lucky) the crumbs which are falling off the table. Pretty sure however, that they will stand in the front line when the bill is dished out for the meal.
The crisis was an amazing opportunity for Labor to pop up benefits for the less performing part of the population without the fear of scrutiny, while the people running SME's would not be typical Labour clients. Well, I guess this will teach them a lesson.
Not saying though that National would have acted with less bias - just towards some other groups. They are all just human, aren't they?
As far as superanuitants go, with out means testing it would be impossible to assist those dependant on super for income. Means testing would bring screams of protest from the "I have paid my taxes brigade and would be political suicide. Not sure how working for large companies (Sky City, Bunnings, or the German owned magazine publisher) helps. As for the less perfoming part of the population do you include sharetraders. ?
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Because Jacinda and Winnie agreed on this when this most transparent of Governments negotiated their secret & unpublished coalition agreement. Jacinda got money for the beneficiaries and Winnie got winter energy payment for the oldies, many of whom vote for him. Nothing to do with COVID of course. Unlike the $70m Winnie got for the horseracing industry once again last week. They must have been his priority concern from COVID
'Winter energy payment' is a misnomer. The payment is simply a superannuation booster. Recipients are at liberty to spend it on call-girls, at the local casino, donate it to charity, or spend it at their local watering-holes. I very much doubt that many will run their heaters longer because of it.
Well apparently Light Rail won't be one of Labour's "shovel ready" projects. Even though it's meant to be half built by now. Quietly being buried by the looks.
The photo in the linked article must be a tad embarrassing for Twyford and Goff
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300...t-rail-on-hold
Don’t hold your breath, BP.
Comprehensively debunked - the so-called financial help to the business sector, especially to the Mom & Dad SMEs. Not one cent in direct assistance to help them.
It’s all about votes - nothing to do with good sound economic policies of helping businesses to preserve jobs.
This is a government unashamedly using the Covid-19 cover & fiscal spend-up to buy & build up its voters base, using tens of billions of dollars of taxpayers’ funds and debts.
Cindy is as grubby a politician as they come - open, transparent, caring, kind - words used cynically by her to project an image which hides her grubbiness. 👎🏻
Why embarrassing?
The background poster shows the photo-op is for CRL. That's Heavy Rail, and absolutely
nothing to do with the ridiculous light rail fantasy project. Lets it's properly dead this time.
Be more discriminating in your reading of the shallow main stream media, apparently also unable to
tell the difference between the projects.
Agreed, a dog turd. CRL is a big enough cockup; Billions over budget, years behind schedule, and will never deliver the promises made.
No worries, the ratepayers and taxpayers have bottomless pockets, those pictured, proud parents can say 'look what I did', while health,
education and environment crumble due to Austerity, the post 15 August 1971, new, western democratic world order.
https://www.thebalance.com/bretton-w...eement-3306133
https://voxeu.org/article/operation-...n-woods-system
More wage subsidy?
Where’s the help for SMEs? Where’s the kindness and care for Mum and Dad businesses?
As unimaginative and uninspiring budget from Cindy & her bunch of incompetents as any country is unfortunate to get.
Well, she is welcome to the colossal problems (much self- inflicted) of the country and economy for the next 3 years.
The tragic part is that the youth of today and future generations are going to carry the debt & mismanagement burden for decades to come.
How does it help to work for big companies? Well, Labor is looking after them, aren't they? Just look at AIR - a huge bunch of corporate bludgers with outrageous salaries and Labor is happy to keep them troughing their big salaries instead of letting them go bust and allowing them to restart a smaller but healthy company with appropriate salaries. Out taxes are funding at the moment 14 posts at AIR with salaries above one million dollar pa and countless jobs with salaries above $250k pa. They don't need most of these roles anymore (given the reduced traffic) and the rest is ways overpaid for a small airline. How is this fair and just?
Obviously - the suffering of the poor butcher didn't interest anybody in Labor. Better pay the pigs at the AIR trough.
Related to your question re the "less performing part of the population" ... well I can't speak for share traders, but in general I am referring to people who expect others to pay for their upkeep despite being grown up and healthy. Not sure whether there are a lot of successful share traders who would do that.
I think you are railing at the wrong company in Air NZ, BP.
It is a public listed company which has contributed billions of dollars in taxes, direct and indirect, and dividends to NZ since it was effectively 'privatized' at bargain basement price of 27c ps or $850m in 2000.
Since that time, NZ government has received $1.453 billion in dividends, sold down 20% back to the public for $365m in 2013, and currently holds 52% worth $583m.
And the current bailout is a loan which has to be repaid.
Well now that the dust is settling on moving to level 2, I'd like to hear from some Cindy supporters on just why her government wanted to impose a 2 year Police State on NZ. This was a calculated move. They could have opted for 3,6,12,18 months or anywhere in between. They went for 2 years until they suddenly decided 3 months was OK after National pulled them up.
Or we could also ask for response on why funerals are suddenly OK at 50 people, when a day before they were only safe at 10. I'm pleased they have made the adjustment, but they did so under political pressure, not medical advice. How many other Level restrictions would they have caved into if the political cost was high enough? Not financial cost, political cost!
I never thought I would see the NZ political system so abused and cynically manipulated to erode our Human Rights in my lifetime. I'm genuinely frightened for our democracy.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/...urism-industry
Our biggest export earner gets $400m and nothing of direct assistance in the budget for the now all important agricultural sector.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-in...-little-vision
For the billions of dollars being dished out, no plan and no vision.
What an incredible rainy day budget, so thankful our finance minister was very prudent in the last two years.Now its all go with a massive budget covering so many areas.Cant satisfy everyone though ehh like dentists and midwives unfort but wow does it cover our economy, businesses, beneficiaries( and we know where there extra will go straight back into all thebusinesses opening up win/win.., the environment, Apprentices even , fantastic, housing, surf life saving even fab etc etc etc etc. Luckily the super low int on these spends adds up to similar amounts on alot less spending in earlier budgets.
Too many to list but with re 400,000 businesses in NZ many will now survive some wont and new businesses will be born. As for Unbalanced suggesting the govt pick out businesses here and there and throw funds at them will you can work it out. Whats that saying of benefit to no one"the only ones more demanding then a beneficiary demanding a handout is a business,". imagine 400,000 hands out, if you give to one everyone else wants it too. Seems like balance has no concept of reflection of ones behaviour and correcting it.These sort of people are the scary ones on our society as they justify wrong thinkings and wrongdoings.
This covid may be around a long time and i think its a big mistake giving the police only 3 months as is increasing funeral numbers to 50. I guarantee people will be hugging and kissing and hongiing as we know its a very emotional time and we are human after all and will justify these risky actions. We know big clusters happen around drinking and bars and funerals for two.
Just hope like hell this doesnt add to a bigger 2nd wave leading to a depression! Its weird, i really support/ed the road blocks to protect folks in remote areas, having bigger funerals does just the opposite. Its like its chocks away covid, covid what?! The associate health minister gave an example of that outbreak re 1917 when a family were warned but insisted on taking the body home, they then opened up the coffin and the result all his ancestors there died from the contagion.
Section 71a of the Health act. a constable can enter any building or private home for any of a full suite of powers. This has been around a long time.
Clause 20 of this new bill is narrower. a warrantless power of entry into a private dwelling under covid 19 is limited in effect to breaking up parties flouting the rules around gathering size.
This enforcement power is intended to limit contagion risks and enable effective track and tracing if theres an outbreak to get under control says David P.arker. Once again its like, its over lets go back to how it was before.Unbelievable, chocks away.
2nd wave, economy destruction.Depression anyone. Hope like hell we get through this.It may be many years , a vaccine may not even be found. Good luck everyone we are going to need it, this budget gives us a very good chance to get through this coming global recession but adapt and change we must.
Forget about 400,000 - how about just this one?
Still waiting for your reply, JT : What help did Cindy & her incompetents gave Roy Green after they stopped him from operating his butchery and deprived him of ALL OF HIS REVENUES?
So tell us, JT - what help has Cindy & her bunch of incompetents extended to Roy Green who had his revenues wiped out to zero?
Not a cent in direct support! Instead, he had to run down his precious savings to pay wages, outgoings and his family expenses.
But for beneficiaries who actually do not need additional support, $2.8b in assistance to those receiving benefits, via a $25 per week increase in core benefits from 1 April and a doubling of the winter energy payment. Why?
That is exactly the way I see it & the Labour Government HASN'T looked after Business as well !
What they have done is extend the free Govt grant for Employees further via the Employers on higher threshold revenue reduction - that does nothing for paying other business overheads or to ensure continuity in reduced / affected post C-19 markets
This is a non event Budget which has missed the Wood for the Trees .. where are the new jobs coming from ??
Where is the definitive future plan, if there is one ? - aside from more than likely landing the whole incompetently executed economic shambles, large debt & blackened remnants into the laps of the next lot of unfortunates to have to tidy up ..
Expect more closures, redundancies, unemployed .. as the Subsidy edges closer towards the election..
Labour could be damned if they do or damned if they dont .. the closer towards September that their orchestrated economic abortion slides into second half, as more damage occurs..
There may be some consolation in only $15 B of the $50 B has been used - leaving the further $35 B which may need to be allocated from the Large Slush Fund to get Socialist Cindy's & Fumbling Robertson's spinning butts out of the line of heavier direct fire in near future
"Wage Subsidy Extension announced- The Wage Subsidy Extension will be available from 10 June 2020 until 1 September 2020."
So very very convenient for Cindy & her incompetents - stretch the wage subsidy through to September and the election.
As grubby as they come - that's Cindy the PM.
Agree its not the best budget, was really hoping for a plan in motion but I'm not even sure what that looks like. We are just kicking the can further down the road here with this. Nothing really coherent came out of it at all imo. The wage subsidy just buys time here.
The opposition have been quick to criticise the budget but I've not seen any great alternatives being offered here by them. Bridges had the serve there to deliver some sort of shadow budget and show the govt of the day what they would do but nothing offered.
Both sides of the coin not really offering anything here.
Cullen did more but Bill wasn't bad. Some criticising the debt overlook the fact that national doubled it and show their own hypocrisy. The debate is a bit superficial since the RBNZ owns a large portion of it. It's good in either case to recover quickly and in the best position in international terms.
What have you contributed , did you start a give a little page? You have stooped as low as someone can go using someones passing to suit your agenda, its sickening but its obvious you have no understanding that this is wrong and unacceptable behaviour.
And just one more very dated beneficiary bashing as if they are some sort of inferior beings who deserve nothing. This is old school redneck stuff and often involves sexism , racism etc coming from self entitled egomaniacs with superiority complexes who dont have the decency to be civil and who are never wrong so can never learn and grow themselves but go off like volcanoes in a constant reactive state rather than an informed response. Behaviours can be changed , fundamentally im hoping you are not that person.
Covid has brought mayhem to this world, there are alot of casualties and unprecedented response from govts around the world.Pleased to see the huge funding go to health we are going to need it, alot of people need help, take care .
Balance will have a heart attack when he realises australia has "double" their usual welfare. The UK and Canada are paying a salary which will be withdrawn if not either extended or tapered will cause an economic collapse for them if not done well.
Once a vaccine is forthcoming a plan based on what the environment will be in 12 months time. It's somewhat risky for any grand ideas atm.
A man has taken his own life - he lost his livelihood & purpose in life due to the lockdown.
He received zero help from the government - in fact, he had to watch others do business while he was prevented from doing so.
You, JT, asserted the government did plenty to help.
So what and where was the help?
Don’t try to duck and dive around the issue - where was the help?
Yours is the totally unacceptable immoral & repugnant behaviour of trying to hide the truth and cover up what happened.
Shame on you. 👎🏻
Doesn't match your stretch to say pre-election lollies for beneficiaries and retired folk is related to COVID, the 2 least affected groups of people (generally) in the country.
The secret Coalition agreement didn't just cover the start of the term did it ? It surely also covers years 2 & 3. 100% increase in the so called winter energy payment is all to do with Winston trying to secure his votes and nothing to do with COVID. A long stretch indeed
Straw that broke the camel’s back.
Would not expect you to understand that however as only an ignorant person would write about the Mad Butcher as a franchise to be unsuited for migrants. Roy Green is not a migrant - he was a NZer.
What an insult to him and his family.
Shame on you.
No, but it may well have been the issue that tipped him over the edge. How troubling for the struggling mind, when a butcher in a supermarket is allowed to open, dairies are allowed to open, but your own butcher shop is not allowed to open.
I always wondered why this inconsistency was around. Call me suspicious but it would not surprise me if the nasty Vegan/Vege anti meat crowd in Labour and the Greens had something to do with this.
So clear that the Labourites here are trying to sweep this issue (of no help for SME businesses and inconsistent lockdown rules) under the carpet and hide it from public scrutiny.
Anything but answer the question* of how and what direct help have been given to the likes of the late Roy Green.
• - their assertion, not mine. Jt's example :
So far THE FACTS, unprecedented!
Nearly $12 billion Wage subsidy scheme
Tax Refund Scheme
Small Business cashflow loan scheme over 6,000 Applicationsin the first few hours
$6.25 billion business finance guarantee scheme
Result? Not a cent of direct help for the late Roy Green or any other Mom and Dad businesses.
I keep checking in here to see if the anger has subsided here. Nope.
I'm guessing the anger won't subside until the government has gone from the Red party to the Blue party. And somehow by magic Roy Green would've died under Labour but not under National, despite his company getting $95,000 from the government.
But this isn't good enough because somehow "Not a cent of direct help" has gone to the business, apparently. If the goalposts are changed so that money going to the business isn't accepted as being direct help then how is anyone supposed to argue with that?
This is a truly sad story but constantly coming back to "Cindy and her incompetents" isn't really convincing me that the problem is anything other than the government being from the wrong party.
Here im reposting this for you and repeat im disappointed people have already forgotten about covid and 2nd waves and the very real possibility Covid 19 may be with us from now on with no vaccine found.2 years and 10 people it should stay.Bricbatts to the govt for folding imo.
"Section 71a of the Health act. a constable can enter any building or private home for any of a full suite of powers. This has been around a long time.
Clause 20 of this new bill is narrower. a warrantless power of entry into a private dwelling under covid 19 is limited in effect to breaking up parties flouting the rules around gathering size.
This enforcement power is intended to limit contagion risks and enable effective track and tracing if theres an outbreak to get under control says David P.arker. Once again its like, its over lets go back to how it was before.Unbelievable, chocks away.
2nd wave, economy destruction.Depression anyone. Hope like hell we get through this.It may be many years , a vaccine may not even be found. Good luck everyone we are going to need it, this budget gives us a very good chance to get through this coming global recession but adapt and change we must."
2nd waves etc can be addressed if and when they arise. We don't need a 2 year law in advance....and they well knew that.
What exactly is a "full suite of powers"?
Saying something is limited "in effect" means nothing in terms of the law. You might be happy to give up your Civil Liberties for no good reason. I'm not.
They tried to pass this into law the very day the Police were exposed trialling facial recognition technology without permission. Your naivity would be touching if it weren't so dangerous.
$95,000 went to his staff - not him. He still had to top up whatever the shortfall was. Then, there’s the ACC, PAYE, KiwiSaver, rent, leases, power etc.
Where was the direct help to him - when the lockdown in an inconsistent manner deprived him completely of revenues?
Dipping into whatever savings he had & despairing of the future - that was the straw which broke the camel’s back.
See, you Labourites can skirt around and duck & dive but you cannot hide the cold hard truth.
And I could not care a monkey’s about National with Simon as leader.
An Opposition is only effective when it is strong.
And a country is strong when it has a strong Opposition.
"2nd wave addressed when it comes", my dog how flippant you are, covid 19 was just a surf competition riiiight. I think the police need to drop in and check up on you jonu, tell you a party of one is not a party and order you to cheer up have abeersy, have some snifters , then through the bottom of your empty bottle of aged malt whisky you have cheersy teary, bottoms up ding dong dance of the celebration of life and we dont know how lucky we are jonu we dont know......;)
What an incredible story by Matt Nippert sourcing 2540 pages and giving us this action packed success story....so far, fingers crossed.A+ govt assessment, response, action, and capability all having to be done on the fly!
"A senior government figure said the pace with bewildering: "New information was arriving faster than we were able to make decisions, which were quickly being made obsolete."
"It was as if test-match cricketers suddenly found themselves playing a T20 super over."
'No time for a trial run': The astonishing inside story of how NZ fought pandemic
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/...package-a-joke
7 weeks and the government still has no plan and clearly no clue how to help the tourism sector.
What is a key attraction? Well, don’t ask because this government thinks it is something to do with John Key.
$70m for Winston's racing industry and $50m so far for Pike River Non-Recovery Plan but $400m for NZ's biggest export earner?
This is a government captured by self-interest and lack of business acumen.
I agree - they are splashing money around to satisfy their clientel. Smells pretty fishy, doesn't it?
But wait - somehow I remember the Key government first allowing South Canterbury Finance to screw up their books, than make it much worse through inadequate communication and a lot of ferociously dumb decisions and than ask the taxpayer to pick up the tab (check out "the billion dollar bonfire" from Chris Lee).
I remember as well the Key government turning health and safety into an afterthought (not just in the mining industry) and so allowing Pike River to happen (check out "Tragedy at Pike River Mine" by Rebecca MacFie).
Lets face it - both big parties and certainly more so the one man party with First in their name provided over the years plenty of evidence to demonstrate their incompetence as well as their bias towards certain interest groups often skirting corruption. On the other hand - I think that most politicians in both of the big parties (and I would add here ACT and the Green party as well) at least want to do what they think is right for the country. But hey - they are only human.
Looking at the distribution of incompetence and corruption I would think that both are inherent in both camps, with maybe a bit more incompetence to the left and a bit more corruption to the right.
So - sure, the budget does not look like a master stroke, but on the other hand - I haven't yet heard a convincing alternative plan from the opposition either ... but sure - just to p*ss on anything coming from one side seems to be easier than constructive contributions? BTW - similar strategy the current occupant of the oval office is using ... accident or learning from the enemy?
Don't rely on Chris Lee for any objective assessment of what happened with the finance company sector, and SCF in particular. Chris is like Trump - blaming everyone except himself imo for his clients losing money after relying on his 'rating' system. Chris believed Hubbard walked on water as well.
I actually know SCF rather well - had several interactions with the company before the GFC hit. Hubbard treated SCF as his own investment vehicle - splashing money ever which way on a hand shake. For example, he 'gave' $40m of SCF funds as seed money into a fund to invest in overseas properties!
By the time the GFC hit, SCF was already a basket case but courtesy of Forsyth Barr & the government guarantee, SCF was able to raise hundreds of millions of dollars more in deposits to cover up until all the dodgy & bad deals done by Hubbard & SCF blew up.
I know - you love to spread your hate and negativity ... be it across Cindy or Chris.
Did you even read the book? Could you just point out for us one fact Chris got wrong in his investigation on South Canterbury Finance?
Or is this just another case of (s)he can never do anything right ...?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/mone...-and-adversity
The couple said they were private people and asked for the sums involved to be kept confidential, but felt they needed to tell their story because they were infuriated to see Lee continually quoted in the media and criticising others when they feel so badly let down.
"You read his blogs and feel he's a really good guy that is there for the investors, but we feel that is just an illusion," said Clare Lindsay.
Around 60% of their portfolio was in finance companies. Around 30% was in investments with either no rating from a respected international ratings agency, or a rating below investment grade.
Really not sure how one gets tourism going again without customers ? I guess our borders will be closed except to people from areas with similar COVID-19 statuses to NZ. Not to many of those on the horizon. And I suspect KIWI's are going to be reluctant to travel and spend within NZ while the covid 19 threat lurks alongside a changed economic world. Will be ditto for our overseas tourists.
While I don't think KD is sharpest tool in the box....I do think he's between a rock and a hard place with this one.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the book about South Canterbury Finance I referred to.
This book is not a recommendation of how to put together a portfolio, but it is analyzing the last years of South Canterbury Finance, including how the National government mishandled and worsened the problems of the company resulting into the waste of (give a take) a billion tax payer dollars.
I think it is time for you to admit that you are just another disgruntled investor who tries to give somebody else the fault for your losses. Chris seems to be an easy target. So easy for you to smear his name without any clue what the book contains, isn't it?
Your standards are surprisingly low for somebody who seems to expect so much from others. But hey - no surprises here.
FYI - I made money buying SCF bonds when they traded at 25% discount to face value. Was a lovely easy $25k gain (taxable) as government guaranteed.
FYI - I never invested a single cent in finance companies.
FYI - I warned attendees at a public investment forum in New Plymouth to stay well clear of finance companies.
Chris Lee invented his own finance company ratings system, recommended and put clients’ funds into finance companies, especially SCF. He thought Hubbard walked on water. Post the collapse of the sector, he deleted all references to his ratings system and to finance companies.
I will not waste one cent and one moment on the garbage he writes and wrote - my opinion which I am prepared to defend and share with others.
Next.
How about a voucher system, $200 per NZer, to spend on NZ travel, accommodation and tourism related businesses? Idea is to encourage NZers to spend in NZ to keep as much of the sector afloat until such time as international tourists can come to NZ again.
There is a total lack of imagination and idea by KD (after 2 months) about how to help the industry!
Excerpt :
"However, details on what these key attractions are and how they are measured were lacking.
Alexander was scathing towards the Minister of Tourism Kelvin Davis whom he says does not understand the tourist industry.
“He [Davis] has no idea and is missing in action,” Alexander said.
"The problem is we have a minister of Tourism who is talking at his industry not talking with or for his industry,"
Agree with you there
this goes further as well - to Services & all supplying that Sector
Add in Hospitality
Add in most Accommodation businesses right across NZ
then look at what the likely effects are on say the Queenstown & Kaikoura communities for indication of the wider ripple effects
Hard to have a plan given we still don't have a view on how this is likely to end and how.
Whatever you may think of the lockdown closing the borders was needed - this shuts out tourists so it is hard to help a sector which has no customers.
The Govt will help turn the sector to domestic but jobs will be lost - there is no way out of that.
Lack of business acumen - they seem to be listening well. National lacks business acumen by the same measure.
If one what to see what the future may hold just look at the past of the team COL
Attachment 11590
This says it all..
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12332872
Yep, I like that article, seems to have a ring of truth in it. They won't put up Judith Collins will they? Chris Luxon more likely.
I can confirm that it's possible that there will be some tricky choices on the Labour List near 72, even further up. It'll come down to the Labour LEC candidate choices. Lots of National-held electorates don't seem to have confirmed/chosen Labour candidates yet, but with this sort of a poll there should be some very strong contenders putting their names forward. It's the sort of territory National has held for so long, you get to be the candidate, you're in!
Bridges comes across really badly. Stupid little sayings. Possibly some of the things he says have merit...but they just come across as wining. And its as if he looks at what government is doing. Selects something he can pick on, makes up a wee slogan about it...and then wines away..."Rudderless ship wallowing in a sea of debt"....wow. And the things he picks...e,g, Crowds able to worship...well, the churches have generally been more than happy to tow the line in the national interest (thankyou) , two more weeks, not a lot of difference for them really is there. Talk about missing the boat.
Right up there with KD IMO.
Night all.
At this rate no National List MPs .....could be nervous times for some
As the old saying goes....a week is a long time in politics.
We've had 7 weeks of a daily propaganda session from Ardern. The worm will turn. Whether Bridges survives is another matter. Luxon can't be the answer with nil parliamentary experience. Those currently in the wings wouldn't tolerate it either.
Where To?
Bridges should step down without a scrap. It was the best thing Andrew Little has ever done, and the similarities between Bridges and Little are many. Both doing their best and in spite of their talents, neither suited to leadership. Apart from that. Labour don't seem to be doing much harm yet. They've abandoned most of their silliest policies, and as long as they aren't doing anything, they're not doing any harm. As a party - they're amusing and good fun.
Well done on coming up with a leader with charisma ez. It took a while, but you got there. Now if only the party could dump their dead-beat MPs, you'd possibly have a three term party, but it's not looking likely. Mind you Curran has gone. That's a start. Could you dump Twyford next, or do you think Lee's Galloway should be next?
Yes they made a series of mistakes starting with Goff. It seems the charasmatic centre-left people do well in the modern environment whereas any bloke plucked off the street who says 'strong economy' once or twice is in with a chance (boris and scomo).
Maybe rather than competence, they need to work on the social media since that's what its about these days along with 2 min segments on TV.
Just as we get back to work Cindy thinks more paid holidays is a good idea.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/back-...mestic-tourism
Anyone reminded of the Roman Empire in its last days? Keep the public amused...it's all you need to do. Aside from dismissing. The Parliamentary Select Committee couldn't get anyone from Treasury to front this morning. And that was after Grant Robertson ditched them last week.
Get ready for more arrogance and dismissiveness with a sprinkling of lollies.
I think you'd have to look at how this came about (and I haven't seen the interview - just the article quote and you know how newspapers work).
You all seem to have filled in the gaps in information with your own bias.
You will see what you want to see.
The big advantage of more public holidays is that it doesn't cost the government anything in time, effort or money. But creams some extra tax from businesses that benefit. And votes of course. What's not to like?
Leadership vote on Simon next Tuesday unless polls change dramatically this Thursday.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...ational-leader
Todd Muller has the numbers?
Yes. If they make him leader asap he might not win the election but he could get the vote up enough to at least save their list members. Then again he might just win. The economy is about to get a kick in the guts, along with high job loss numbers, and that can make a week, a day, or an hour in politics a long time.
Heh, might have been a spot of /sarc in my post.
Though while we are looking at ways to boost the economy, maybe set the minimum wage at whatever the 'living wage' is. According to The Treasury, government coffers are one of the two main beneficiaries from increased tax and reduced government transfers.
The other main beneficiaries are young single workers, many living with mum and dad.