Wrong thread for Losers - BS .. a different colour sky might be needed too .. the correct one is over the way :)
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‘Australia’s farmers have rubbished the new NZ-European Union free trade deal and urged compatriots to run a mile if the EU offers them something similar.’
Deafening silence from MSM and the Labour losers/posters about NZ losing its mojo :
The Herald caught up with Ellis as he was about to depart for Italy where he plans to live soon, saying New Zealand has lost its mojo.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/mar...L3ZTHWGJ22G5A/
“We have lost clarity of how we add value, why we are here, what we exist for.”
That was among the findings in an internal review prepared by the New Zealand Transport Authority (NZTA), obtained by Radio New Zealand (RNZ).
But that statement could equally apply to New Zealand as a whole. The country has lost its mojo after a decade of feeling good about itself.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/com...494cc6441d43f9
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More back of the napkin, dumb idea policy from this current group of National MP's, completely out of touch, they really are amateurs.
I blame the loss of sound MP's, leaving all the ineffectual ones, plus National's hopeless selection process.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-as-pests.html
I quite like the Himalayan Tahr. What a shame you yearn to see them wiped out in this country.
‘Introduced to New Zealand by James Cook, Captain Cooker pigs were derived from English breeds. They have subsequently formed most of the country’s wild pig population. Kunekune and Captain Cookers were the first pigs to be introduced to New Zealand. Captain Cookers were domesticated and bartered by Māori, and there was also a large wild population. Pigs were greatly valued by Māori, who helped their spread by making gifts of them to other Māori. They were kept in households to use up scraps of food, and this diet was supplemented with grain. The pigs were eventually killed for meat.’
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Of course, the eradication of all ‘non indigenous’ flora and fauna is a Leftist dog-whistle to a certain section of the population.
Health NZ confirms jobs cuts of 300-plus as DHB changes take effect.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/te-wha...HVE6M72A7S6GI/
The reforms are already delivering long term cost savings.
Here's the problem with Nationals pencilled in "savings"... they're actually costs now. They will need billions more to return healthcare to DHB's and unwind three waters.
So where are they going to find the money to deliver tax cuts, bring back dhbs, bootcamps, teaching the basics brilliantly and all the rest.
I am more concerned about there effectiveness. Studies from overseas suggest they don't reduce recidivism and the benefit if any only lasts as long as they are in camp.
Kids that have likely been abused or neglected on the whole don't respond well at being yelled at or ordered to do this that & the other etc. They quite often have experienced far worse at home & its just a reminder of the abuse they have already experienced.
What I would rather see is a more nuanced approach where they have to face up to their crimes. Meet the victims and make reparations through work etc and also work in community programs and also be fostered by community groups & iwi so they can gain positive connections but also hopefully learn skills or get further education so they can one day get a job and have options other than crime or the gang life etc.
Watching Ginny Andersen, new minister of justice, on TV3 - so Ardern. Anything but answer the questions.
Good to see that she is not allowed to get away from her clueless and deflective answers by Rebecca Wright.
Asked about rank & file police expressing frustrations with the woke and ineffective ‘policing by consent’, she tried first not to answer, then she denied that there’s such an issue.
So as far as Hipkins and this government is concerned, nothing is going to change - woke policing is here to stay with all the associated breakdown in law and order under this clueless and racist government.
White middle class NZers need to vote in a new government to being sanity and common sense back to policing - give support to the frustrated rank and file police ranks to effectively enforce the law.
Roll on October 2023.
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Speaking of answering questions, Luxon in a friendly interview with the right compliant Mike Hosking couldn't answer some basic questions about the largest policy the Nats released yesterday?
Labour have cocked up again & again.
However this guy doesn't give me much confidence that things will be any better.
This is a regurgitated policy of course from the Key years where all other roads including maintenance was sacrificed to fund the roads of significance.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...MVWQ34ITWFG2M/
As much as I want a change of govt I think you are right. National are hampering their efforts with Luxon. He really bumbles his way and has little political nouse. More than that, he's really not appealing and we know voters vote on personality at least as much as policy or ability to govern
Ardern had plenty of political nous - that’s the kind of leader you want in NZ?
Huge promises but zero delivery.
Big on words and minuscule on deeds.
Or do you want a leader who may not be so skillful with BS & Spin but will actually deliver?
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Personally I want a leader that gets stuff done. I don't care that he has the personality of a brick (no offence to bricks). Indeed, I want one that tells me like it is not what he thinks I want to hear to keep my vote. However, i'm not your typically personality driven voter of which there are many (my mother included: "oh that John Key man is a nice fellow, i think i'll vote for him" lol)
Apparently Labour MPs aren't the only ones misbehaving.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/08/01/n...ing-behaviour/
Sounds like he ‘stood over’ someone. Oooooh. Let me know when he throws a punch. He may then get promoted to Speaker.
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‘1News understands Tim van de Molen "stood over" Labour MP Shanan Halbert which led other MPs to place themselves around Halbert out of concern for his safety.’
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‘Senior cabinet Minister Trevor Mallard said the punch he threw at National MP Tau Henare was "one of the most stupid things I've ever done in my life".’
Cant believe the lack of comment on Christopher Luxon's suggestion NZ get in debt to the CCP to fund many $Billions of NZ infrastructure (roads ) after seeing whats been happening when the CCP has funded infrastructure in other countries.
Luxon's naivety is breathtaking, dangerous, what happens when we can't pay the debt/interest,.... national assets being consumed to pay for the debt.
China would leap at the chance to colonise NZ, they would own us.
They must hardly believe Luxon's almost inviting them in when other nations are now pushing back.
For once thank goodness for David Seymour , who says ACT's policy would shut the door on this, and.. "We can't follow the lead of Pacific nations who have accepted investment from the CCP, only to find they're in debt to a communist regime flexing its muscles."
David Seymour is going to run rings around Luxon who is hopelessly underprepared for the role of PM.
National opposes extension of asylum seekers detainment from 5 to 28 days.
National will oppose for opposition's sake.
I expect this of the Greens, but National?
Andrew Little raises a very good point that 5 days isn't always long enough to do a full security background check of every asylum seeker.
National would rather risk our National security than agree with Labour on anything.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...wilfully-blind
Biggest threat to NZ's security - courtesy of 5.75 years of Labour policies :
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Another example of the Labour bureaucracy not being able to do anything efficiently.
Great cartoon exposing Luxon's continual bad judgement.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/rod-em...d=u00ot29qkw9l
If you want a "safety lock" on the most right wing anti-social govt we'll have in NZ for 30 years & stop the maori party at the same time.
It seems the best way is:
1) To volunteer for Top in Ilam.
2) Then support NZF nationally (unless TOP has a late surge in polls).
Volunteer for TOP in Ilam? And also support Winston First?
I can’t see either of these laughable milquetoast measures preventing either a LABGREETEPATI government or a moderate centre-right government.
In terms of ‘anti-social’, what we’ve seen from this catastrophic Labour outfit has been rampant inequality, a crime wave, a vast bureaucracy, and wasteful spending that will make us poorer as a nation. Anti-social types are thriving in Labours New Zealand: just look at the ram raiders and the mongrel mob - they’ve never had it better.
‘Unemployment is low’. 100,000 people on the Job Seeker benefit. More that 400,000 people on benefits of all types. If ‘unemployment is low’ then the government has basically written off all of those people as being unemployable, & hence the need for high immigration to provide for new entrants into our workforce.
And a reminder of what this Labour government is all about - HUGE BROKEN PROMISES.
All SPIN & NO DELIVERY.
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‘Healthcare has been made more affordable for everyone.’
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Only if you are able to crowdfund it.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/healt...nees-and-backs
‘In November, David Garlick will undergo a surgery to ‘scrape out’ his hip joint and regraft a bone, but he has been forced to crowdfund his care to the tune of $30,000.
Garlick, 25, has a condition which causes excess bone to grow on the top of his femur. “Instead of having that nice smooth movement in the socket it’s like, grinding.”
But after bouncing around the orthopaedic service in Wellington for almost two years, he was declined last month – a letter saying the surgery is “currently unable to be offered through Wellington Regional Hospital”.
“It’s been a waste of my time, their time, everyone’s time,” Garlick said.
He is one of an untold number of patients needing orthopaedic care and living in pain who cannot be treated in the public system.
For the 14,209 orthopaedic patients who are accepted into the system, more than half have waited longer than four months for planned treatment, Te Whatu Ora confirmed.’
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I didn't realise Luxon's polling for preferred PM had dropped so low. 15.9% in the latest poll!
Just ridiculous that this guy could be the next Prime Minister.
We get it - you prefer Clueless Cindy with her preferred PM poll of 29%.
And what a wonderful job she did as PM - all that wonderful BS, Spin, lies and gross incompetence on display.
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Whatever it is, it's about what he achieves and delivers when he becomes PM. That is the true measure of what a leader is.
If popularity is the measure you judge a leader by, it's no wonder NZ today is in such a mess with Ardern topping the popularity stakes in 2020.
Her popularity really should have sent alarm bells ringing when it was already clear in 2020 that she is all spin and no delivery.
What happened to the huge promises she made?
Look at how she has turned so-called crises into disasters :
Housing
Health
Education
Law & Order
12,000 new state houses built by Labour! Biggest BS & lie ever!
100,000 kiwibuild homes! Less than 2,000 built so far after nearly 6 years in power.
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You're gonna look like such a dick if National also fails to deliver on their promises. They have before, so why would anyone expect differently this time round?
Oh yeah, they've promised to ban cell phones in schools. I'm sure we can expect a significant improvement in student achievement once they've done that. Yeah right.
No government in NZ has ever failed to deliver on the scale that Ardern & Hipkins have - period.
What’s the point you are trying to make, JAK? Try refuting my point that popularity does not equal a good leader.
Hitler was very popular in Germany when he was leader - did that make him a great leader?
Ardern’s case is more clear cut - 2 years after being elected for a second term, she booted herself out because she knew more and more NZers saw through her BS, spin and lies.
As for banning mobile phones in schools, anything which will arrest the alarming decline in education standards and achievements in NZ is a good thing. Maybe you much prefer Ardern’s directive to all educational providers in NZ to learn and use te reo? What has that gone for maths, science and reading?
Just to be clear, I don't believe students should have their phones on them while in class, but it is not the role of government to ban them. Nor is it necessary. Schools are already managing this for their students, with a variety of rules, such as handing phones in at the start of class etc. National literally has much bigger things to be worried about right now, so for them to be announcing something petty like this right now, is ridiculous. If they want to be taken seriously, this is not the way to achieve it.
I like Chris Hipkins comment, "schools don't need Christopher Luxon's permission to ban phones " .
Interestingly a mother rang ZB this morning saying her son was at King's College where all the students sat around at lunchtime staring into their cell phones, whereas at Auckland Grammar cell phones are banned during school time so they are out playing on the fields or interacting with other students during the breaks.
She was dismayed & tempted to switch her sons school, because of this.
(Mind you some overzealous King's parents would probably lawyer up & sue the school if their child wasn't allowed to use their cell phone at school. )
If it's important to you & you don't want your child distracted by social media & vulnerable to online bullying, & your son/daughter's school hasn't already banned them, put some pressure on the principal.
We don't need the govt doing this, its the schools job.
Plenty of schools have already banned them during school hours.
Same Hipkins who cannot answer ‘What is a woman?’
https://youtu.be/kqpbLbfoWJY
Appalling woke behaviour by Hipkins.
Then there’s this ….
Same Hipkins who eagerly welcomed Kiri Allan back to work to shut down the controversy around allegations of her bullying.
Well, she ended up driving inebriated and had to be tracked down by police dogs after trying to run away from the scene of the crash.
And who not only resisted arrest but threatened to take the jobs of the police officers who brought her in.
https://resources.stuff.co.nz/conten...ptimize=medium
Appalling judgement call by Hipkins.
Same Hipkins who accepted Kiri’s assertion that she never shouted or bullied anyone? To have that now confirmed by a newbie junior MP!
Some countries which have banned and/or are banning mobiles in schools :
France
Australia
Netherlands
China
UK
Malaysia
Singapore
Bravo on National for taking the initiative to follow the recommendation of UNESCO and the examples of other countries to ban mobiles.
Meanwhile, Hipkins is very very happy to support the Education Department's proposed curriculum to dumb down the teaching of science by removing all references of physics, biology and chemistry.
In the land of the blind, the one eye man is king.
In the Aoteroa of the future, the half wit will be a Labour PM because the rest of the population are illiterate peasants - that's how Hipkins and Labour want NZ to become.
The point I was making is, there is zero need for the government to mandate this. Schools at all levels are already managing this. Does National really believe this is going to win them votes? It is a nothing burger in the grand scheme of things right now. You of all people should realise that, given the long list of more important things they need to address if they become government. Why on earth have they made this a priority when they should be announcing policy on things such as the Aged Care crisis for example? Oh, I know ... its because they have no policy.
May be small burger to you (& Hipkins who does not know what a woman is) but as per the UNESCO report, it is a big deal to lift the academic achievements of all students. And it is easy to do as other countries like Australia has done.
Leave it to the schools and we will see the disparity emerge in the future between the schools which ban mobiles vs those which don’t. And of course, society will then be blamed as usual by the woke schools and woke leftist politicians.
How about Labour supporting the revised school curriculum of dumbing down science? Think that will help the brown population to lift their academic achievements?
Hipkins answer to "define a women" question thrown at him by shock jock Sean Plunkett, seemed perfectly thoughtful & intelligent, - "in terms of gender identity, I think people define their gender identity for themselves."
Who could argue with that?
And also Hipkins said "Ultimately I'm very aware this is an emotionally charged issue for some people, and as leader, I don't want to contribute to that."
Sounds incredibly thoughtful, honest, sensible & sensitive to me.
Biological sex & gender identity are not always the same thing, ones determined by chromosomes, the other by social construct.
Obviously Transgender & non-binary issues are a very emotionally charged issue for posters like Balance & many others who have taken offence at Hipkins answer, but as most people understand, its just about impossible to have an opinion on these incredibly complicated issues without causing offence to someone or groups or even groups within groups.
Does anyone know how Christopher Luxon answered this question? Or has he even been asked it?
This might be incorrect but from my knowledge it's only the private schools that choose to have no phone policies. There may be no need for government to mandate the phone ban if there were free choice between schools aka no zoning rules, but for most people they are stuck in the schools that their zoned for.
Ideally the best schools with the best policies would benefit receive monetary benefits but it doesn't really seem to be the case. One modern school (modern teaching, no real restrictions on students) was built near me which cost an absurd amount of money and it has for the most part failed horribly. I think that school would benefit with a no phone policy.
Australian states have been implementing the no mobile in school policy since 2020.
Nothing but positive feedback.
One must wonder why school principals in some schools are so opposed to it. Likewise, the woke leftists who prefer instead to dumb down the school curriculum so that there’s no mention of physics, biology or chemistry. Interesting, isn’t it?
Why are you, a male, so fixated on this!
And actually what is a woman or a man is a social construct, it's the biology that is 'messy' and many people are born with biological sexual ambiguity.
How about you & Sean Plunkett be 'real men' and stop telling women what they are & aren't.
Attitudes like yours make me sick.
Obviously sick to care about people, all people? Funny enough it's mostly men that are raising such a big fuss about this simplistic but nasty campaign.
Neanderthal attitudes on this site are abundant.
What is sick about not marginalizing the already marginalized?
If you cannot accept that there are people within society that are born with gender ambiguity then like again many on here who don't believe in Climate Change, Covid was a hoax etc, are not living in the real world.
It is not sick to care about all people and make sure they are protected by religious zealots.
Those same zealots that again & again end up being found out for deplorable behavior and they are hiding their real ugly selves on a religious soap box.
Thanks Justakiwi. It's good to not be alone on this site on these matters.
There are a few speak out, but I think there are others who also open minded but are wary of the diatribe that will follow. Like calling people sick for caring.
I've had a guts full of these Climate Change denying, anti science Neanderthals & misogyny dressed up in a religious robe that has swept a tidal wave of molestation under the rug for decades.
Interesting polling from Essential via NewsHub. . .
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...ards-says.html
Party: https://essentialreport.co.nz/questi...st-question-2/
Labour 29.0%
National 34.5%
Green 8.5%
ACT 11.6%
NZ First 5.3%
Preferred Prime Minister: https://essentialreport.co.nz/questi...ns-of-leaders/
Hipkins 43% positive 30% neutral 22% negative
Luxon 32% positive 26% neutral 35%negative
This is the path NZ is going towards, thanks to the official government & MSM sanction of use of violence against anyone who dares to speak out for the silent majority :
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2023/07/2...ration-effect/
WHAT HAPPENED IN AUCKLAND on Saturday, 25 March 2023, revealed the power of officially-sanctioned protest. That power was demonstrated to even greater effect the following day in Wellington. New Zealanders are blessedly unfamiliar with this type of politics, which is more commonly associated with authoritarian regimes such as Viktor Orban’s Hungary, or Nicolás Maduro’s Venezuela. Nevertheless, the mass demonstrations against Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (a.k.a “Posie Parker”) strongly backed by government ministers and the state-owned media, revealed just how potent a weapon the mass mobilisation of sympathetic citizens by official, or quasi-official, forces backed up by the news media, can be.
Since Keen-Minshull has announced her intention to visit New Zealand again in September of this year (perilously close to the election date!) it will be interesting to see whether the same politicians and media outlets who denounced her attitudes towards the trans community back in March – “inflammatory, vile and incorrect” – are prepared to offer the electorate a repeat performance six months later. Were they to do so, there can be little doubt that the result would be the same. New Zealanders sympathetic to the trans-gender cause would rally against Keen-Minshull in their thousands.
The response of those who share Keen-Minshull’s views about the impact trans-gender ideology is having on the rights of women and children will, however, be very different the second time around. Should Keen-Minshull return to these shores in September, she is certain to arouse a powerfully demonstrative response from those who support her cause. The March spectacle of 2,000 trans-gender activists and their supporters drowning-out and then physically attacking Keen-Minshull and her fewer than 100 supporters is unlikely to be repeated.
And we had the most repugnant and despicable act at that time of a young able transgender demonstrator attacking an elderly lady.
He punched the elderly woman in the HEAD.
Vile and totally disgusting - but NOT A WHISPER from the woke brigade.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-...JMJRP5ZCJNODQ/
A young Gisborne man accused of punching an elderly woman in the head during the heated Posie Parker counter-protest in Auckland late last month appeared in court for the first time today, waving briefly to the magistrate before nervously folding his hands in front of him.
Many people are not born with biological sexual ambiguity. They are very much in the minority. So much so that for thousands of years it has quite obviously been obvious as to what is a man and what is a woman. Until the last 10 years it seems. A woman is an adult human female and a male is an adult human male.
Fascinating how you come to some conclusions. I am not beating up on anyone at all. All I am saying that my opinion is that a woman is a female human adult and a man is a human male adult. If you want to use pronouns to support other opinions, that is fine. Just don't go prescribing them for me. I am not interested and don't care.
I will however treat you as I treat any other human being. With respect for who you are as a human and what you accomplish and how you treat others. But definitely not for what gender you may identify as, or what colour you are, or any other minority you belong to. That does not interest me one bit.
If you call that beating up of people, then I give up.
Clearly our schools think differently:
https://www.thepress.co.nz/a/nz-news...=stuff_pointer
If it doesn't bother you, which is good to hear by the way, then why comment?
The campaign of, what is a woman, is not an innocent question, it's about marginalizing the already marginalized. Even if people that support it don't think this or don't understand this, it's what the campaign is doing. It is the effect.
Why would you support a campaign, even a national advertising campaign, when the already vulnerable are being targeted.
Suicide rates in marginalized minorities are much much higher than the general population. Why is that? Mostly due ignorance, lack of acceptance and empathy.
There is blood on these ignorant Neanderthal's hands and ignorance is not an excuse.
That is what you have been led to believe. Suicide is high in these poor mentally disturbed people. Then the therapists go and affirm them and get them to do all sorts of gender re-assignment and/or take all sorts of drugs (some with very powerful side effects) which causes more issues. You will find that the suicide rate does not really diminish post this process.
Affirming a mental illness has never been a good idea (think anorexia) and there must be far better treatments out there for those with gender dysphoria than a cocktail of drugs and mutilation.
As for what is a woman or what is a man! It is all about protecting women and not about marginalizing a segment of society. How would you like it if your daughter had to share a locker room with a trans female, or any other woman's space where they need to feel safe. It's not about marginalising minorities, its about keeping the majority safe.
While we are at it, how does saying that a woman is an adult female human actually marginalise anyone?
But you don't care right?
Treat everyone the same? And now you are suggesting it's mental illness and people don't feel safe.
Are you a Psychiatrist?
Or you just like making up ****e as you go along, much like your Climate Change rhetoric.
Are you religious? Honest question.
How many crimes as you describe are committed by transgender people?
Give me one example in NZ.
Turn it around though and how many crimes have been committed against trsnsgender & gay people etc over the years. Thousands.
They are the ones who haven't been safe.
As I said not worth my spit.
It wouldn’t worry me in the slightest. Women are far more likely to be attacked by a heterosexual cis male, outside of a public bathroom, than they are by a transgender woman, inside one!
Honestly, you (and others here) should take the time to talk to some transgender folk. The vast majority are simply trying to live their life without any drama, just as the rest of us are. The problem is, some of you, particularly men, associate “trans” with what you have seen in p0rn, or with the very small number of “extremist” trans people (for want of a better word). 99% of the the transgender population are nothing like that. Most of them you wouldn’t even notice if you bumped into them, let alone recognise them as being transgender.
As someone who has a transgender friend, it really saddens me that people seem incapable of even trying to “get it.”
Well said.
And I would be more fearful of the religious zealots, after all it is proven their ilk is riddled with rapists, molesters & pedophiles.
Blackcap perhaps instead of imagining your daughter being vulnerable for no logical reason.
Imagine your child or grandchild is gay or transgender. Are you going to support them through their journey or tell them they are mentally unwell?
I to know someone who is transgender and it takes a bit of getting used to for sure, but from day one there was no judgement and it was all about getting to know the real person who they had to hide for their entire life. They are still the same loving, generous, highly intelligent person I always knew it's just now they are male not female and I am very proud of they have become.
The very latest poll results - Labour crashed down to 27%.
National/ACT can form government comfortably.
Hipkins figured out what a woman is yet?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...HO735BBDFTHFA/
Balance I think your anus has had more than enough exposure on here, every 3rd or 4th post.
Anyone else agree?
Perhaps time to get those haemorrhoids seen to, & no need to be embarrassed, it's quite common.
Either that or talk to someone about your prurient obsession with parts of your anatomy.
There is no other way to describe the bunch of self-serving woke principals who have done bugger all to lift the standard of education in their schools except to emphasis te reo as a cure all. Why have they not acted on banning mobile phones themselves if it’s such a minor but easy thing to do?
Indeed they can kiss my arse. :D
Every time you open your grubby little mouth, you just confirm our suspicions that something is seriously wrong with you. I really hope for your sake it is simply fith syndrome, and not something medical. Either way, you are a sad, miserable little man who is undeserving of our concern or tolerance. You’re just not.