Time will tell. I think we're all now cognisant that the significant majority of sales will happen in FY20 anyway. Same with some of their other developments. I am viewing OCA profit growth as more a FY20 story now and I think anyone with a short term focus on the FY19 result is going to be disappointed. Multiple director purchases and some in quite large volume in recent times probably tells long term holders all they need to know to keep holding.