No I didn't ask that. Learn to read.
I'm not going to give the rest of your ugly post the time of day.
I don't converse with bigots.
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Aren't some forgetting the Māori Language Act 2016, which stated the Te Reo should be used in the promotion of government services, was supported & voted for by the National govt & ACT.
Furthermore Chris Luxon seems to be at odds with Winston Peters, saying shortly after he was sworn in as PM he loves Te Reo & wants to see its use encouraged.
And new National Minister for Māori Crown relations Tama Potaka has no intention of stopping using Te Reo.
Most young Kiwis are very comfortable with using some Te Reo & see it not just as part of our national identity but also their own personal identity.
Words like mõrena, whānau, māhi, mana, aroha, maunga, motu, moana, tangi, waka, waiata, hīkoi, tamarki, kia ora, etc just flow in everyday conversation.
There is a world of difference between the encouragement and promotion of te reo vs te reo being forced down the throats of NZers, including at a kindergarten level.
Use it or else funding would be cut. Use it or else you would not get promoted. That was in the Maori Language Act 2016?
What the Labour government of Ardern & Hipkins has done is used te reo for political advantage rather than for communication for the greater good of NZers and the language.
My understanding is that the revival in Ireland of Irish Gaelic and Gaelic Sports was through a determined push by Nationalists from the nineteenth century onwards. Irish language has been compulsory at school in the South since 1922. So it has taken considerable political involvement and compulsion to get where it is today. However one can say that about many languages: The use of languages and the state are intertwined around the World.
The difference from NZ’s experience is that ethnically Irish people form the majority of the population in The Republic of Ireland, whereas those who identify as Māori do not form the majority in NZ.
It's a shame NZ didn't follow Ireland's lead way back & have te reo taught in schools, instead children were disciplined for speaking their language & adults were made to feel ashamed.
If that had been the case, I suspect much of middle aged white angst wouldn't be a thing.
But unfortunately there will always be racists I suppose, something that has been quite evident on here.
You do understand that when you are sounding the retreat it is you retreating...🤣
Although it would be the sensible action considering your embarrassing and ugly posts.
As I said I don't converse with bigots as they are worth my spit so you are set to permanently ignore.
I can only be disgusted so many times in a day.
I love the left getting upset. Sort of makes my day.
Out comes the old racist statement again just because the you can't accept different views.
Te Reo was forced at my school, and I also had to a haka on average once a week. Ironically I was made to feel ashamed throughout the majority of my high-school years because I was no good at it nor did I enjoy being forced to do what is a savage war dance.
There is nothing wrong with Te Reo Maaori, but shoving it down kids throats that don't want to learn it isn't the answer. If anything it just made me dislike the language as I'm sure many others do as well.
That is my view too. I used to like Maori (not te reo, because that is a colonial construct) and enjoyed the culture and language.
Unfortunately lately, because of this overt push and ram down throat, I am finding myself disliking the whole Maorification of things. It is really unfortunate, but those trying to promote things, need to do so gently and with thought.
No one likes religion being rammed down the throat either. It is a losing and divisive strategy.
So satisfying to see the lefties and woke proponents losing their minds over this new coalition.
Absolutely!
We can tell when the woke leftists are losing the debate/arguments and have run out of coherent counterpoints.
Following in the great tradition of their ultimate woke leftist Queen of Spin, Useless Cindy, who avoided interviews (eg. by Mike Hoskings) and ultimately, as we saw, quit when her clueless ‘visions’ collapsed in a heap of spin, lies and disinformation.
Very very satisfying!
Come on guys you can't go around blaming Te Reo for your weak insecurities, it's your parents' fault for making you soft and being scared of a little shouting and dancing, I do agree though it's disgusting that a language can be forced down a child's throat, do they open the mouths and push or is it more like a squeeze?
Balance sounds like a pathetic old sod, probably got heavily rejected by a Maori babe when he was younger, and went all anti-brown after he choked on his Kia Ora and she laughed at him, whinging old armchair bandit.
And his little sheep followers, BAAAA-lance BAAA-lance
At my school there was no choice, to say no would have been seen as disobedience and likely ended up in the headmasters office under threat of suspension.
In my opinion it was not the role of my school to force Maaori culture on me. All I wanted to do was study economics and accounting and get on with the day.
Balance learned to do the peek out the blinds and call the cops, every time the neighbours watch the haka with the volume up at his girl guides
Excellent example of how ridiculous the Maorification has become out there:
What’s Te Toka Tumai?
Many of the people who get a letter from this organisation are vulnerable and frightened about what life is about to throw at them, and they need clear, simple information.
So WTF is Te Toka Tumai?
It just happens to be one very critical government entity - part of te WTF Ora.
Do Maori have a choice to learn English at school?
Te Reo, as Maori prefer to call it, is an official language of New Zealand and rightly so it should be mandated in schools.
Most kids seem to love it, but not all, like you.
There were subjects I was forced to take I didn't like either.
I loved doing the haka for the 1st XV.
And have also performed it whilst representing NZ in some minor sports.
I once performed it for the Silver Ferns at the Netball World Cup in England and it was beamed all around the world. I wish I had more knowledge at the time of what I was performing to give it all due respect.
I don’t know if learning screeds of the Aeneid would particularly help, except for answering Mastermind questions, but more time should be given to English in secondary school, to concentrate on Etymology. You get a bit of linguistics, geography, history and culture with that too.
This is the problem with a state run education system, there is no one size fits all when it comes to what should be taught.
In an ideal world parents would vote with their cash regarding what they believe their children should be taught via a free market system with the best schools teaching the most desirable subjects and recieving more cash than the other schools. If that were Te Reo, so be it. But I would suggest that under a private system more important life skills would be taught, and less of the woke BS would exist in schools.
That's just my libertarian dream though. Never going to happen, so the bureaucrats are going to continue indoctrinating the NZ population indefinitely.
And thank god that will never happen!
Wow that was quite an insight to your psyche.
Quite sad for someone so young.
I once heard education described as liberty, which is quite ironic considering what you consider libertarian, and I think that's a great way to look at it.
NZ education standards have dropped considerably since the neo-liberal agenda took hold under Labour in the 1980s & carried through since by successive Governments.
Education needs to be freely available to all and if Government funded what is offered should be of equal opportunity.
Precisely why private schools are booming.
They do not seek government funding (it's a nice to have) so they can dispense with all the woke te reo & Maori cultural crap required by the Labour government to obtain government funding.
Their emphasis is on education, education and more education although they do offer te reo as a language option along with other languages.
I wasted three years of my life, five 45min periods and three 30 min preps per week learning Latin. I have been involved in Health, Science, and the Law all my professional life, and Latin has been of absolutely minimal use. Te Reo, on the other hand, and the 'cultural competence" (albeit at a minimal level) that goes with it has been of enormous value , both personally and professionally.
In a recent Newsweek column on poverty, Shana Alexander wrote, “Access to food, clothing, shelter and medical care is a basic human right.”The heart approves Ms. Alexander’s humanitarian concern, but the head warns that her statement admits of two very different meanings, one that is consistent with a free society, and one that is not.One meaning is that everyone should be free to use his human capacities to acquire food, clothing, shelter and medical care by either direct production or voluntary cooperation with others. This meaning is the essence of a free society organized through voluntary cooperation.This meaning is far from trivial. Indeed, I conjecture that most hardship and misery in the U.S.today reflect government’s interference with this right. You cannot earn your livelihood by becoming a plumber, barber, mortician, lawyer, physician, dentist, or by entering a host of other trades, unless you first are licensed by the government. And the granting of a license is typically in the hands of practitioners of the trade you desire to enter, who find it in their self-interest to restrict entry.You will have difficulty getting a highly paid job as a carpenter, mason or electrician unless you can persuade a union to let you join, and that may not be easy if your brother or father or uncle is not a member of the union. It will be especially difficult if you are black and poor, however competent. Like the American Medical Association, the unions can enforce their tight monopoly only with the support of the government.If you are a black teen-ager whose services are currently worth only $1.50 an hour, it is illegal for most employers to hire you, even though you are willing to accept that wage.And I have only scratched the surface of existing restrictions on your basic human right to use your capacities as you wish, provided only that you do not interfere with the right of others to do the same.But this is not Ms. Alexander’s meaning, as is clear from her next sentence: “When lawmakers attempt to convert welfare into workfare … this is less conversion than perversion of that basic idea.”Ms. Alexander apparently believes that you and I have a “basic human right” to food, clothing, shelter and medical care without a quid pro quo. That is a very different matter.If I have the “right” to food in this sense, someone must have the obligation to provide it. Just who is that? If it is Ms. Alexander, does that not convert her into my slave? Nothing is changed by assigning the “right” to the “poor.” Their “right” is meaningless unless it is combined with the power to force others to provide the goods to which Ms. Alexander believes they are entitled. This is clearly unacceptable. But neither can we rely solely on the “right to access” in the first sense. Protecting that right fully would reduce poverty and destitution drastically. But there would still remain people who, through no fault of their own, because of accidents of birth, or illness, or whatever, were unable to earn what the rest of us would regard as an acceptable minimum income. I believe that the best, though admittedly imperfect, solution for such residual hardship would be voluntary action on the part of the rest of us to assist our less fortunate brethren.But our problem is far more serious. Restrictions on access in the first sense, plus ill-conceived welfare measures, have made millions of people dependent on government for their most elementary needs. It was a mistake to have permitted this situation to develop. But it has developed, and we cannot simply wipe the slate clean. We must develop transition programs that eliminate the welfare mess without unconscionable hardship to present welfare recipients.That is why, for three decades, I have urged the replacement of our present collection of so called poverty programs by a negative income tax that would guarantee a minimum to everyone and would encourage recipients to become self-supporting.I favor a negative income tax not because I believe anyone has a “right” to be fed, clothed and housed at someone else’s expense but because I want to join my fellow taxpayers in relieving distress and feel a special compulsion to do so because governmental policies have been responsible for putting so many of our fellow citizens in the demeaning position in which they now find themselves.
But we have such a wonderful Labour government restructured welfare system under MSD & Oranga Tamariki which was supposed to bring in a sea-change in looking after needy students and children.
What happened?
Something to do with 'Be Kind' and 'Criminals are also victims of the crimes they commit?'
And something also to do with school lunches making the suppliers millionaires while the lunches end up at the end of the school day being fed to pigs?
So where are the complaints about mandatory religious studies? Church attendance?
Which is far less valuable & lower utility than te reo.
And yes they are in demand but only by people who can afford it & it increases the gap in equality generationally.
I'm not against private schools as a rule. I am against having two levels of Government schools.
It sounds a bit like what Labour would do. One rule for one group of people and a different rule or department for others.
The private schools do an outstanding job of preparing and getting their students into the top universities in the world:
https://www.crimsoneducation.org/nz/...-schools-2023/
Meanwhile, Ardern & Hipkins with the Maori Cabal have been very successful in getting state schools to produce ever dumber students, especially those indoctrinated with all the cultural crap.
i'm up in Ngapuhi land now, and just saw a light truck go past, emblazoned Beep Beep, Subway school lunch delivery.
I got the impression I had to get out of the way, of not just 1, but 2 delivery people on board.
At what SUBsidy I ask?
So these state molly coddled mothers can't put a couple of pieces to bread together for their kids now?
More important to pay the fag and meth bill eh?
Pay up sucker taxpayers.
Comrade Cinders got you there!
The google online translator is great.
Both “nga mihi” and “nha mihi” must auto-correct as they both translate to “thank you”. The auto-correct function in google translate is useful.
However they were making the point: if you dare use Māori you can’t make a typo.
You go, Winston!
Give the media hell as they accepted the $55m bribe from Ardern to promote woke and leftist ideology.
No amount of deflection is going to drown out that fact from NZ’s history.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...G6XJ3MOE5JTYI/
“You can’t defend $55 million of bribery, cannot defend $55 million of bribery. Get it very clear,” Peters said.
Applicants to the fund were asked to show a commitment to Te Tiriti o Waitangi, including a commitment to te reo Māori.
So do our State Schools,
here's a list of NZ's Premier Scholars for last year, these are the 10 students who gained the highest marks in Scholarship exams across NZ.
Each year the top 10 go to Government House in Wellington for their awards.
9 of the 10 students went to State Schools, only 1 from a Private school.
You often find similar results with Cambridge exams as these students often sit both.
In some of our top State schools the scholars group are a much higher cohort than in the private schools and really push each other.
It's definitely an illusion to think our best & brightest always go to private schools.
https://www2.nzqa.govt.nz/ncea/under...award-winners/
Kia ora,
I suggest all those who feel like it add in little bits of te reo into your posts.
One you might learn as you do the mahi.
Two it's a treat triggering all the Rednecks. 🤣
Nga mihi.
Sounds a good idea. I am always keen on picking up new vocabulary. Can I suggest that you italicise or quote the “Māori” words, especially those that have not been incorporated into NZ English dictionaries as it can be difficult to read a mish-mash of languages otherwise. Use of the macron when needed helps too. (With some keyboards that involves a long press, and then selecting the diacritic, of the letter needing the macron).
We have to remember that older NZers and new NZers or new residents may not be as familiar with Māori words as others.
Chaos in the Cabinet room! Herald headline.
Oh my days, what a circus & they haven't even started.
Winston's gone rogue & as de-facto Prime Minister its embarrassing not just for Chris Luxon but for the country, as he takes a page straight out of Trump's play book & accuses the media of taking bribes.
Winston's already creating ripples on international news sites.
3 days, 3 significant ceremonial moments, & 3 strikes - Winston's behaving like he's channelling Trump.
You can imagine what Nicola Willis, Chris Bishop, Seymour, will be thinking.....we can't work with this man.
And Cabinet members shuffling awkwardly, wow this is anything but stable & united.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...G6XJ3MOE5JTYI/
Well they would say that wouldn't they! Granny Herald was in the trough! And it was $105 million with the second tranche. Plus the government was the biggest advertiser in the country during the pandemic. Even more income and reason to be the propaganda arm of the Ardern government. The Herald was the biggest jab pusher of them all with their 90% target that the government then supposedly adopted.
Winston's only saying what everyone knows. Trudeau did it in Canada before Ardern, and is attempting to do it again heading into his next election.
Ardern was the most cynical and manipulative PM in our history. Yet her crowning glory was the parliament grounds riot. Chickens came home to roost. It will be interesting to see if she falls out of favour with the international club at some point. She's past her use-by date.
Example of Labour’s & Ardern’s hidden Maorification agenda :
A charitable trust in Auckland was set up decades ago and operates to provide funding to needy & deserving students.
It also receives funding from the government.
This year, the trust was told that it could only qualify for government funding if Māoris are appointed to the Board of Trustees. And by the way, the appointees expected to be paid!
I know one of the trustees of the Trust and they could not believe the directive that was sent to them. So they double-checked and were told that the directive was government policy, even though there’s zero information anywhere about it.
One down, many more woke leftist media personnel to go :
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ters-malicious
NZ On Air board member offers resignation after criticising Peters
Andrew Shaw, a television veteran who served on the board of NZ On Air, has resigned after criticising Winston Peters.
In a post on LinkedIn, Shaw called Peters “malicious” and thuggish. Shaw’s comments were in response to Peters’ ongoing attacks against reporters, which stem from the NZ On Air administered Public Interest Journalism Fund.
Shaw told Stuff those comments were in his capacity as a “private citizen”, but he has since had to resign from the board of NZ On Air. As a Crown Entity, the board of NZ On Air are meant to be politically impartial.
Shaw’s Tuesday morning post said: “Peters attack's independence of media. He's not truthful. He's not accurate. He's malicious and he is here on behalf of international tobacco. His return is the worst of this gang of thugs."
He declined to elaborate on what he meant, when asked by Stuff.
In a statement this evening, NZ On Air confirmed his resignation had been accepted.
“Mr Shaw has also unreservedly apologised,” it said.
“Mr Shaw accepts it was absolutely wrong to publish his personal political views.
“NZ On Air wishes to emphasise that the views expressed in the post are those of Andrew Shaw and are not a reflection of the agency’s views. We are a non-partisan agency that has worked constructively with governments of all hues for 34 years.”
Read carefully as to why he had to resign.
Same deal with Rob Campbell.
Both should have known better but they had been so emboldened by Ardern & the woke Labour government that they thought they were above the public service conventions and statutory requirements.
Good riddance and let’s hope for more such resignations.
Get lost and pxssed off.
Very very satisfying.
Very!
It is definitely not a lie. It is actually well documented that the PIJF came with strings attached. They had to do something for the $55m and then the next $55m. One of the conditions was to show a commitment to Te Tiriti O Waitangi and Te reo. REally quite disgusting from the Labour government. I hope Stuff and Sinead go out of business soon.
O and by the way, when and why did the Treaty of Waitangi, a document created by the British, start to being referred to Te Tiritity ? It is just another example of a minority forcing its will upon the majority'.
https://d3r9t6niqlb7tz.cloudfront.ne..._M_EPcNdaD.pdf
At last, after 6 years of Dark Ages for New Zimbabwe, it feels as if the long white cloud is lifting, and it's back to ReNew Zealand.
Having conditions such as honoring the Treaty or covering tangata whenua issues it's not bribery. All Government funding has conditions even at a local Government level.
This is not bribery.
Here we have a Deputy Prime Minister acusing the free press of bribery. That is a very serious allegation and needs to be backed up by evidence. If the funding was conditional on painting the Government in a favorable light then that is a different thing. But there is no evidence of that what so ever.
The board should have backed him but they are probably afraid of not recieving funding from the new Government.
Peters is completely out of line and Luxon should completely disown his comments. This is not Trump's America where you can threaten & bully the press.
What the hell have we elected!
What shower of rain did you come down in?
ANY government intervention in the media, but especially FUNDING with CONDITIONS is wilful degradation and manipulation of the fourth estate. End of. This is inarguable.
Suggest you find some more solid ground to attack the incoming government and/or protect and justify the despicable influences of the past government.
The media don't respect the voters, and they don't respect democracy. It's as simple as that. Getting funding in return for demonstrating 'a commitment to' the 'principles' of 'Te Tiriti' and Te Reo is exactly what Peters says it is: it's "we'll give you $55 million but you have to do this for us"; there is simply no other way to look at it. And yet on Stuff, it is stated that Peters is spreading 'false information'. This IS media corruption, pure and simple....and many of us are fed up to the back teeth with it!
If you are someone who believes in democracy and you are sick of left wing bias in our media, and you are buying newspapers put out by NZME and Stuff, then you are an absolute fool, as you are directly funding left wing media. Only a bloody idiot puts money into the pockets of woke left wing journalists intent on ramming their agenda down all our throats.
I repeat, all Government funding comes with conditions. This is nothing new & its about accountability.
Whether you agree with the conditions is another thing. But it's not bribery.
So I suggest you ask yourself about the latest shower.
Peters has again stolen the show from Luxon, although using foul means. He has no integrity, but hey how may times has Luxon come up on this thread.
The dog with fleas is running the show. He never spoke out like this out of turn when Jacinda was in coalition with him.
And what is it? Day three?
It's going to be a long three years if it lasts that long.