Given the obvious difficulties you have in reading anything that challenges your entrenched views - your conclusion offers no surprises.Quote:
Originally Posted by minimoke
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Given the obvious difficulties you have in reading anything that challenges your entrenched views - your conclusion offers no surprises.Quote:
Originally Posted by minimoke
Generally I'll express a view based on evidence that is verifiable and reliable.
Your latest author begins her article on the basis of a suspicion with no supporting evidence.
She then asserts AH is a man with business acumen as evidence by the Te Tua trust.
I am prepared to have my views challenged - but I expect a standard of proof a little higher than that provided by your author so far to encourage me to move my view formed so far.
Perhaps someone could enlighten me on how the Te Tua Trust shows AH is a man with business acumen, cos I'm not seeing it.
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Originally Posted by minimoke
So, maybe the Te Tua charitable trust was setup to conduct charitable activities that were less suitable for commercial activities. Maybe these charitable activities include rent and interest forgiveness to designated beneficiaries of the trust?Quote:
Originally Posted by MED Societies Web site
Maybe the Statutory Manager had some difficulties in understanding the structure and intentions of the trust? The questions they raise point to obvious difficulties and the fact they did not engage in any dialogue with Allan Hubbard would point to some inefficiency in resolving these difficulties.
You also seem to hint darkly about the intent and operation of the trust. Given a year long SFO investigation and the fact that no charges have been laid concerning Te Tua; it would appear that further fretting and worrying can only lead to loss of sleep and a potential for an outbreak of hives.
Maybe we should spice things up a bit?Quote:
Originally Posted by belgarion
We could pickup the Michael Warrington "electricity" ideas. Surprisingly, the coupling between the vibrational states of a material ("heat") and electrons in the material gives rise to a phenomenon known as superconductivity. (I doubt Warrington had superconductivity in mind when he was talking about electricity). (Maybe this is more appropriate to the Scott Technologies forum).
Just goes to show ... out of the factually and logically incorrect - interesting developments might arise. Balance's posts spring to mind for some reason.
What do we know about Te Tua Charitable trust.
From Stat Man report no 1: "As noted earlier in this report, Te Tua Trust has provided interest-free loans to business people. We are undertaking a complete review of Te Tua Trust’s loan portfolio of approximately 170 loans". So it was loans to business people not charities. Where is the business acumen there? Does this not have a whiff of something wrong?
Fro Stat Man report #2 "Many of the loans are made to farmers and share milkers in the early years of their business to give them a "helping hand". So business acumen means interpreting farming activities are a charitable purpose.
From Stat Man report #3 "Mr Hubbard advised us that he introduced approximately $25 million of Te Tua assets to Aorangi with the purpose of strengthening the Aorangi balance sheet." So Aorangi is now a charity case?
From Stat Man report # 4 "The state of Te Tua’s loan records is very poor" In my world, being a charity does not excuse poor record keeping by people with business acumen.
I'm not sure I need to hint darkly about Te Tua because its activities speak for itself.
Minimoke is in danger of encouraging bad habits in our University student followers.
He only reads Statutory Manager reports and spurns everything else. No student is going to do very well without reading widely (including work on both sides of a point of view).
He elevates Statutory Manager reports to some form of "revealed truth". No student is going to do very well without maintaining a skeptical attitude to authority.
I would go so far as to suggest that Minimoke is corrupting our University youth by projecting the image of the Statutory Manager as a fair arbiter. The fact is that the Statutory Manager is closer to a paid assassin. They are neck deep in gravy and gravy will flow as long as they can draw out and prolong their investigations. This teaches our University students the nature of corruption and gives tacit approval to this process. Hemlock, Minimoke ... that is the classical remedy!
ROFL, have just asked my 14 year son to read and critique Kerry Grass's review.
His responses;
"My teacher would circle that statement and ask for an example or supporting evidence"
"There is no list of references"
"You can't just say that without saying why"
Now, I know I've got a pretty amazing kid, but do you think the NEU is recruiting?
You should give him the Statutory Managers report and ask him: "Is this worth suspending all a mans property rights; like being put in prison?"