.....havnt bothered to look it up myself TOASTY......but he sure pushed the right buttons if that's what he was trying.!! (apologies to anyone else that might take offence....it was only aimed at one BSter).....and by the way I cud take out 10 times the buyers at the moment.....didnt realize there were so few! Dont get me wrong either I hope this co does finally come right.........I obviously have no reason to intentionally "DOWNRAMP" as was suggested.