For sure, but it takes the right product.
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Silly debate guys as everybody has different preferences! The ice cream I love some hate and vice versus. Some people prefer the taste of the cheapest stuff and hate the taste of the most expensive and vice versa. If you were to compare Kiwi, Tip Top, Signature Range, Kapiti etc I am sure you would find they all taste quite different, but they all sell. Different price points and volumes but they all sell.
Similar to the savory versus sweet muffin debate that seems popular at morning tea time...
I'm somewhat surprised based on the half year report I re-read last week. I recall something about them phasing the GIC progress and that getting it into North Island shops would be in phase 2, and I inferred that this wouldn't be happening any time soon. Next time I visit that crazy mad busy supermarket I will ask and see how long they have been selling GIC products, and how it is going.
Do they also sell other GIC products?
Personally I'm not super pleased they bought GIC but am interested to see where they take it. Their argument that they want it to allow proof of concept work doesn't really wash with me as they didn't buy a gum making business and gum products have been launched. Hell, one of their staff left and now works for the gum makers...
Personally I think Barry thinks he can do better with GIC based on his Dairy experience than the previous owners. I hope it won't prove to be too much of a distraction, and that it will help the cash flow situation.
Emearg Are these different icecreams Kiwi, Tip Top, Signature Range,or just different packaging. When I was living in Australia Signature range had the Tiptop symbol on the lid. The Aldi icecream was labeled product of NZ & Tip Top owned Peters icecream from Perth. Who is the parent company of Kiwi?
I don't know. It has been years since I have tried Kiwi. IMHO Tip Top and Signature Range taste very different. Talleys is another one. Not one I like.
Inside a brand there are quite different tastes as well. The lite Vanilla has a very different taste to normal vanilla. I prefer normal but I know of family members who love the lite version.
I guess if we all liked the same thing we wouldn't have as many choices as we do...
why cant blis sell its product to tip top?
to me it seems blis is doing the same thing it always does..... going it alone or obscure internet shops,
or relying on the fortunes of online pharmacy / healtheries web retailers.
they have after 10 years still to find a real world heavy hitter.
blis is way past being a start up company.
and their options are getting thinner by the year
maybe they should talk to the guys at charlies or 42 below?
lets turn k12 and m18 into a stylish health product instead of a nerds oral health product.
we know that k12 and m18 are proven products that if introduced into mainstream foods and goods and made "hip"..... blis would take off.
just look at the mouthwash ads, and the toothpaste ads.
sexy girls kissing..... 3d strong man cartoons shielding teeth and on and on........ making money!
and blis.......... ??
strange ice cream brand, dime a dozen $40 a month websites........ not even a small click on ad on trademe or the major web newspapers.
whats the going rate on trademe for a click ad?....... 50cents?
and another thing....... m18 ... discovered in NZ, yet you cannot buy it in this country.
whats with that?
the real problem is....... blis does not advertise to the general public, and where it does advertise..... it is woefully bad compared to it competition.
blis now has gras....... and guess what...... no momentum.
so the issue is.........
is the problem the products or the management?
unfortunately.... when i invested a $100k i was too busy getting off on the product.
i didnt realize at the time that a company and it future is really only as good as its management.
re..... charlies........ orange juice
re...... 42 below...... booze.
from zero to filthy rich in less time than blis
the clock is ticking for blis.
you may call me negative...... but i believe i am NOW a real realist.
too bad it cost me an amount that i will never be able to recover.
good luck to punters looking for a quick buck IF management get lucky
this company has taught me more about risk reward, good/bad management,
hype and reality, dreams and truths,
and the fine line of prospectus and returns,
and.......... the reality that NZ business law is rather lax.
re...... the last few years where NZ society has lost billions and no accountability,
but now i start to digress.
good luck
while i was writing this, there were several posts regarding ice cream....... this to me is a pointless discussion......... as the real goal of blis is way beyond ice cream....... so no disrespect to the posters..... i value your comments greatly..... but then.... concerning blt there is not much to talk about..... so any discussion is better than none.... and my comments arent overly positive, but hopefully will make folks aware...... or at least management aware of the thoughts of at least one major share holder........ not that my $100k is worth anything anymore.
[QUOTE=neopoleII;365694]why cant blis sell its product to tip top?
to me it seems blis is doing the same thing it always does..... going it alone or obscure internet shops,
or relying on the fortunes of online pharmacy / healtheries web retailers.
they have after 10 years still to find a real world heavy hitter.
blis is way past being a start up company.
and their options are getting thinner by the year
maybe they should talk to the guys at charlies or 42 below?
lets turn k12 and m18 into a stylish health product instead of a nerds oral health product.
we know that k12 and m18 are proven products that if introduced into mainstream foods and goods and made "hip"..... blis would take off.
just look at the mouthwash ads, and the toothpaste ads.
sexy girls kissing..... 3d strong man cartoons shielding teeth and on and on........ making money!
and blis.......... ??
strange ice cream brand, dime a dozen $40 a month websites........ not even a small click on ad on trademe or the major web newspapers.
whats the going rate on trademe for a click ad?....... 50cents?
and another thing....... m18 ... discovered in NZ, yet you cannot buy it in this country.
whats with that?
the real problem is....... blis does not advertise to the general public, and where it does advertise..... it is woefully bad compared to it competition.
blis now has gras....... and guess what...... no momentum.
so the issue is.........
is the problem the products or the management?
unfortunately.... when i invested a $100k i was too busy getting off on the product.
i didnt realize at the time that a company and it future is really only as good as its management.
re..... charlies........ orange juice
re...... 42 below...... booze.
from zero to filthy rich in less time than blis
the clock is ticking for blis.
you may call me negative...... but i believe i am NOW a real realist.
too bad it cost me an amount that i will never be able to recover.
good luck to punters looking for a quick buck IF management get lucky
this company has taught me more about risk reward, good/bad management,
hype and reality, dreams and truths,
and the fine line of prospectus and returns,
and.......... the reality that NZ business law is rather lax.
re...... the last few years where NZ society has lost billions and no accountability,
but now i start to digress.
good luck
while i was writing this, there were several posts regarding ice cream....... this to me is a pointless discussion......... as the real goal of blis is way beyond ice cream....... so no disrespect to the posters..... i value your comments greatly..... QUOTE]
Not a good story for you, I'm sorry to hear. I don't mean to get involved in trivia like ice-cream, but it's more than just trivia as far as I am concerned. It tells me a lot about the company. I followed Blis for a little while, but dumped my small shareholding after trying their product. I just can't see it selling. When I saw that they had bought gourmet ice-cream, another low quality product, it struck me that they will never get anywhere. That's the importance of the ice-cream; it's an indicator, or another nail in the coffin.
[QUOTE=fungus pudding;365700][QUOTE=neopoleII;365694]why cant blis sell its product to tip top?
to me it seems blis is doing the same thing it always does..... going it alone or obscure internet shops,
or relying on the fortunes of online pharmacy / healtheries web retailers.
they have after 10 years still to find a real world heavy hitter.
blis is way past being a start up company.
and their options are getting thinner by the year
maybe they should talk to the guys at charlies or 42 below?
lets turn k12 and m18 into a stylish health product instead of a nerds oral health product.
we know that k12 and m18 are proven products that if introduced into mainstream foods and goods and made "hip"..... blis would take off.
just look at the mouthwash ads, and the toothpaste ads.
sexy girls kissing..... 3d strong man cartoons shielding teeth and on and on........ making money!
and blis.......... ??
strange ice cream brand, dime a dozen $40 a month websites........ not even a small click on ad on trademe or the major web newspapers.
whats the going rate on trademe for a click ad?....... 50cents?
and another thing....... m18 ... discovered in NZ, yet you cannot buy it in this country.
whats with that?
the real problem is....... blis does not advertise to the general public, and where it does advertise..... it is woefully bad compared to it competition.
blis now has gras....... and guess what...... no momentum.
so the issue is.........
is the problem the products or the management?
unfortunately.... when i invested a $100k i was too busy getting off on the product.
i didnt realize at the time that a company and it future is really only as good as its management.
re..... charlies........ orange juice
re...... 42 below...... booze.
from zero to filthy rich in less time than blis
the clock is ticking for blis.
you may call me negative...... but i believe i am NOW a real realist.
too bad it cost me an amount that i will never be able to recover.
good luck to punters looking for a quick buck IF management get lucky
this company has taught me more about risk reward, good/bad management,
hype and reality, dreams and truths,
and the fine line of prospectus and returns,
and.......... the reality that NZ business law is rather lax.
re...... the last few years where NZ society has lost billions and no accountability,
but now i start to digress.
good luck
while i was writing this, there were several posts regarding ice cream....... this to me is a pointless discussion......... as the real goal of blis is way beyond ice cream....... so no disrespect to the posters..... i value your comments greatly..... QUOTE]
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Not a good story for you, I'm sorry to hear. I don't mean to get involved in trivia like ice-cream, but it's more than just trivia as far as I am concerned. It tells me a lot about the company. I followed Blis for a little while, but dumped my small shareholding after trying their product. I just can't see it selling. When I saw that they had bought gourmet ice-cream, another low quality product, it struck me that they will never get anywhere. That's the importance of the ice-cream; it's an indicator, or another nail in the coffin.