C'mon Lux
Get with the Dux!
Not the ducks.
No more paddling and wallowing with our statu tory holidays thanks.
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C'mon Lux
Get with the Dux!
Not the ducks.
No more paddling and wallowing with our statu tory holidays thanks.
Soon will take quite a while.
Once people have something they dont want to give it up again. :)
Learn to read and then, learn to comprehend :
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/mata...AUTSKZSYWN3HQ/
Haha - as I suspected all along, your head is too full of Ardern’s spins going round and round in your indoctrinated head to read properly.
Read again after you take a few deep breaths and your head stops spinning:
“Last year the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment calculated the impact on 534,930 businesses giving their staff an extra day off to be between $377m and $448m - or between 0.35 and 0.42 per cent of 2019's wage bill of $107 billion.
That figure is double the $200m the Employers and Manufacturers Association (EMA) forecast when Labour made its Matariki election promise in September.”
Regardless of the $ number which either way is very large, it's this that really underpins the discontent:
"It's the first time the Government has revealed the potential cost of adding a 12th public holiday to the calendar despite receiving the advice last term."
Transparency, honesty, truth. All lacking, can't believe a word they say.
Just think how much we could save by cancelling ALL public holidays!
Luxon in an interview appeared to lack any kind of meaningful understanding of te Tiriti o Waitangi, co-governance or the depth of the relationship between Māori and the Crown.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/former-national-leaders-had-a-rudimentary-understanding-of-te-tiriti-o-waitangi/56EGBTLGEAFMILJKCUATGX3NL4/
“Throughout the interview, Luxon drew a distinction between "everyday New Zealanders" and "Māoridom", creating two seemingly discrete groups that he posed in opposition to each other when discussing co-governance.
If, according to Luxon, everyday New Zealanders don't understand what co-governance is, but Māori do, then doesn't it logically follow that he's suggesting that Māori aren't "everyday New Zealanders"?
It was also unclear to me whether he understands the most basic reason for the establishment of the Waitangi Tribunal – that Māori, in the te reo text, did not cede sovereignty. Rather, Māori sovereignty (tino rangatiratanga) was affirmed, while Māori agreed to grant the Crown the power of kawanatanga (governance).”
If Lux thinks he can stand on a soapbox at election time, and woo swinging voters by taking public holidays away from them, he will be suds.
Too much time spent in business class, to lose touch with economy class...
He doesn't want his coffee to go up 25 cents this year even though hes mega wealthy.
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...pg?format=500wOn the contrary, moka.
People like Lizzie & you throw te reo words like te tiriti o waitangi instead of Treaty of Waitangi as if that automatically lends legitimacy to the Maori text as being the only valid interpretation of the treaty.
We all know there are two texts of the Treaty, English & Maori.
The English language at the time of the signing of the Treaty was a well developed and understood language with precision in terms of legislative imperative to the words.
The Maori language was in its infancy with hardly any legislative imperative. In fact, they had no words for most of what is taken for granted in the world of government, law & order!
Why should the Maori text and interpretation be the only one now to determine the intent of the treaty?
There are two interpretations and it’s only because of Ardern’s government to corner the Maori vote (and make bottom dwellers and beneficiaries of most of them) which has allowed the current PC climate of favoring Maori in every interpretation to prevail.
Luxon is perfectly entitled to prefer the English text interpretation if and as he chooses.
And he will be judged by NZers and NZers will vote accordingly next year on that basis.
Spare us, moka, your woke and racist postings using a few te reo words as if that’s the be all and end all of what constitutes interpretation of the Treaty.
Just to try & throw a bit of light on this, yes there were 2 versions of the Treaty with William Hobson signing both the English & Maori versions. However, apart from a small handful, the Maori chiefs signed the Maori version not the English version.
Today if you were in any Court, no judge would hold you to a version of a contract which differed from the one you had signed.
The day before the signing of the Treaty, Rangatira were invited to a hui in a large tent set up on the front lawn of Busby's house, to discuss the Treaty.
This went on for around 5 hours. Neither Hobson or Busby understood Maori & much of the discussion points & interpretation of the wording of the 2 different versions of the Treaty was being done by Missionary Williams. Williams also translated what Hobson said, as not all Maori spoke English.
At one point a Pakeha, Trader Jack interrupted and said to Hobson, "Begging your pardon Sir, but its that Mr Williams. He's not translating a good half of what the Maori say. He's not translating half of what you say either."
Another Pakeha, Johnson who understood Maori said the Maori were saying a lot about the missionaries taking their land and that Williams was not translating it.
So its obvious there was a lot of misunderstanding, but also trust in the honest intentions of the other party.
I don't think its fair to say or many would agree that you can choose whichever version of the Treaty you prefer, i.e. that Luxon's entitled to choose whichever version he prefers.
It's def worth reading about as there's so many uninformed opinions flying around, & I don't mean just here but generally.
So I waded through pages and pages and pages of what were obviously (to me) irrelevancies, smears, and special pleadings from Doutre. His last pararaph was illuminating
"Americans beware! You’re next if the globalists have their way. It’s very obvious to the rest of the world that your 2020 election was hijacked and that the Constitution of the United States is to be assailed and nullified (see: Forensic Audit into Election Fraud,Maricopa County, Arizona … with multiple other such forensic audits commencing to expose the electronic voting machine-switching of votes and international hacking of those machines linked to the Internet by routers."
"The Treay of Waitangi has been reinvented - step by step since 1975." Yeah right - and Trump really won the 2020 election.
Yeah right, the Treaty of Waitangi has been properly interpreted based upon the imprecise language of Maori and Ardern promised and has delivered the most transparent and accountable government in NZ’s history. Plus she has delivered on the huge promises she made to get into power like Kiwibuild and child poverty.
Hogwash & Labour garbage.
The voters can decide if it's necessary or not.
Then he said the next day that he didn't mean it - who's to know which Luxon musings to believe?
Flip-flops around like a fish out of water.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/claire...327SYFRNJ5DMM/
"Sure enough, within a day Luxon claimed he was simply speaking in jest and had no intention of jettisoning either Matariki or Labour Day. At this rate, by Wednesday he'll be promising to add another public holiday."
Better than making huge promises like being the most transparent & accountable government but actually delivering the most devious and deceitful administration like Ardern for sure.
Then, there're the promises of affordable & more housing
Eradicating child poverty
Reducing climate change emissions
Be kind*
Etc
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...pg?format=500w
* She has been kind to DJs though - one was able to get in 3 times but pregnant women cannot.
Is it though?
He needs to learn to think before he speaks - and fast.
Attachment 13734
You speak like Luxon.
He needs to reign himself in or he will lose the momentum
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...6K6SQOUEHTEPM/
"It has included a case of casual misogyny (Luxon's claim that the PM wouldn't know how to wear Red Band gumboots); a major public policy fail (his ignorance of the role subsidies play in ensuring public transport is viable); a scornful jibe about the most hard-up members of society (he used the term "bottom feeders"); a claim there are no viable EVs to substitute for utes (there are indeed, say vehicle importers); and his call, greeted with alarm, to cancel the Labour Day holiday as a counterbalance to the new Matariki holiday.
Then during this week's interview on Māori Television, Luxon strenuously denied having ever described co-governance — a Crown-Māori partnering concept forged by the last National Government — as separatist.
Worryingly for him, transcripts of interviews on Newstalk ZB and TVNZ's Q+A in early December show the s-word being used on three occasions."
A country is not a company but he uses plenty of company speak and he will lose the people.
"He thinks quickly and speaks quickly, often in the rah-rah syntax of the corporate top table — terms like outcomes, journeys, efficiencies, tasking and timeframes are liberally sprinkled about. Facts don't always get in the way of a good soundbite."
Yawn, dobby41 - surely you can do better than to quote from Mike Munro, propaganda & spin writing man for Ardern & Labour.
Must be getting desperate.
As I wrote - Ardern’s vision for NZ is a nation of Labour voting state dependent beneficiaries breeding bottom dwellers. There can be no other explanation for her failed policies.
Kiwibuild, dobby41?
Or do you prefer fish & chips served with a dash of reality - that the fish is not snapper but imported shark?
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...pg?format=500w
Mike is so wrong that only Ardern spun indoctrinated brain washed individuals cannot see it. NZers have woken up to just how incompetent and full of BS Ardern & her team of nincompoops are - that’s the point Mike completely misses in his opinion piece.
Tremain cartoons cut Ardern to her core - exposing her for the spinner and fraud that she is.
Kiwibuild, dobby41?
Or do you prefer the skyrocketing housing waiting list?
Maybe both as well as unaffordable housing?
Add in Kainga Ora’s pro-gang & pro-criminal tenancy policy and what have you got?
You sound like Luxon trying to explain where the Govt spending is wrong but saying nothing.
Which bits of this are wrong?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...6K6SQOUEHTEPM/
"It has included a case of casual misogyny (Luxon's claim that the PM wouldn't know how to wear Red Band gumboots); a major public policy fail (his ignorance of the role subsidies play in ensuring public transport is viable); a scornful jibe about the most hard-up members of society (he used the term "bottom feeders"); a claim there are no viable EVs to substitute for utes (there are indeed, say vehicle importers); and his call, greeted with alarm, to cancel the Labour Day holiday as a counterbalance to the new Matariki holiday.
Then during this week's interview on Māori Television, Luxon strenuously denied having ever described co-governance — a Crown-Māori partnering concept forged by the last National Government — as separatist.
Worryingly for him, transcripts of interviews on Newstalk ZB and TVNZ's Q+A in early December show the s-word being used on three occasions."
Here's Luxon trying to explain and failing badly.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/04/24/c...for-inflation/
This tired old argument is so predictable. No PM would ever lower taxes if they were worried about such silly debate from Labour. A large majority of people that are used to working for a living, don't buy this envy rubbish. The rest will always vote for higher taxes and higher handouts and are not National's target voters. Go figure.
They raised taxes while in office though with a GST increase.
Panda doesn’t conveniently forget. He’s a Labour troll who’s only purpose appears to be to spread misinformation. If forum moderators applied same rules to Panda’s posts as they did to people who questioned the COVID approach on the relevant threads, almost all of his/her posts would be removed. But the cancel culture doesn’t work that way
Some have more money than sense.
Witness the 1 million given to Act each election, for a party which only recently broke above 1%.
Unfortunately, Luxon doesn't think ahead.
Attachment 13743
Luxon ties himself up in another interview - if he is going to comment on Te Tiriti issues he should understand Te Tiriti.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/shan...T3WNWPWTRTTXI/
Maniapoto: Do you think that it's feasible that Māori would have ceded sovereignty?
Luxon: Well, that's ... I think we are one sovereign country ... article 1 of the Treaty, you know, that's what that's about.
Maniapoto: Te Tiriti.
Luxon: ... of the Treaty.
Maniapoto: Te Tiriti.
Luxon: Well, we have different interpretations.
Maniapoto: No, what is in Te Tiriti?
Luxon: Well, what I'm saying to you is, I think that that, you know, I'm looking at the articles ... the first article was really about ceding sovereignty - that we're one country ...
Maniapoto: No, it's not.
Luxon: ... the second article was about rangatiratanga, that the people can have ...
Maniapoto: So you're talking about the English text that was signed by about 50 people.
Same article about Luxon as above but since this is Sharetrader I found the comments about risk interesting.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/shane-te-pou-troublesome-interview-betrays-luxons-values-and-priorities/BX7GQFIRN3WHBT3WNWPWTRTTXI/
Some say Luxon shares many of John Key's strengths. both were successful businessmen who spent extended periods of time abroad and have chosen to commit to politics after achieving their impressive career goals.
And yet, I'm not sure those similarities will end up being as important as the differences between the trader (Key) and the institutional CEO (Luxon). The most glaring point of difference comes down to their attitude towards risk. The CEO spends all day and night mitigating risk, especially so with a company as weighed down by stakeholders as Air New Zealand.
To a foreign exchange trader like John Key, on the other hand, risk is the true currency of choice, and success is measured by how quickly you can turn it into profit. What the trader personality manifested in Key was a comfort with spontaneity, extremely fast reaction times, and an almost superhuman capacity to read a room.
As Luxon's interview with Moana Maniapoto showed, as did subsequent outings with Jack Tame, Tova O'Brien and Kim Hill, those risk-averse CEO traits were in abundance, but none of the currency dealer's fleet footedness and disarming humour.
Mathew Hooton not so bullish on Luxon
Christopher Luxon is the best National's got, but he's no John Key
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...WQN5PGYXAEVJ4/
Concerns are growing in the business community and in his own party about whether National leader Christopher Luxon is quite up to it.
....
While Key quickly positioned himself as a Burnside boy done good, wanting to help the underclass, Luxon has allowed himself to be framed as the Remuera businessman who wants to give his $2 million-a-year neighbours a $2000-a-week tax cut.
He has offered the middle class no convincing solution to the cost of living crisis but firmly cemented the idea that Grant Robertson deserves the blame for rising inflation, and therefore the credit when it falls.
On co-governance, Luxon's waffle pleases neither end of the centre-right's Don Brash-to-Christopher Finlayson spectrum, nor many in between.
After talking a good game on National needing to be more diverse, he has allowed party officials to come up with a short-list of four white men for the Tauranga byelection.
I care.
I imagine that for you, considerations of ethnicity, gender and culturre are irrelevant in determining "best". If you do in fact believe that, I would encourage you to think some more.
Since I have never been a politician I can't speak from that particular experience, but for a number of years I made and implemented policy to deliver a variety of services to disadvantaged groups. In my experience, ethnicity, cultural competence and gender are factors central to determining who is "best" in many roles.
I didn't get past this sentence "broadcaster and national treasure Moana Maniapoto ". It shows how objective this writer is when he calls an unknown presenter on a channel that most people don't ever watch, a "national treasure". Why anyone looking for an informed article would read beyond that is beyond me !
Luxon tries to increase diversity in National by having an intelligent person in the team - his mouth just keeps on giving.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...bit-thick.html
"He's going to bring something really different to our caucus and some diversity to it in that in that he's really well educated"
How long before people realise that Luxon actually says nothing?
He says Labour's $1bn in support (in the budget $350 payment + transport support extension) is inflationary but his $1.8bn tax cuts (mainly for the wealthy) isn't?
Beggars belief that he is so ignorant.
But wait, there's more ...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...DZD4F7JXHH63Q/
"Surely, if you think the current Government is spending too much – and Luxon clearly does, one of his favourite mantras is how "Grant Robertson is addicted to spending" – it shouldn't be too hard to say what a better level of spending would be.
This evasive routine is starting to grate on the press gallery.
As one senior journalist tweeted this week, "National needs to either detail what govt spending it would cut, or stop going on about it."
So what's going on here?
The explanation, as it so often is in politics, is polling.
A recent survey by Talbot-Mills Research, released to their corporate clients, showed that Kiwis back investing in health, housing and education over reducing spending and debt and do so by a ratio of nearly two to one.
Just 32 per cent of voters said they wanted to prioritise cutting spending and debt versus 60 per cent who wanted more investment in public services."
What nonsense?
I believe anyone with half an ounce of economic brain matter knows exactly where the budget cuts are going to come from. It will be painful for those affected and deservedly so.
Why should Luxon show his hands when Ardern has her back to the wall from lying and spinning to NZers fur far too long?
If everyone knows then Luxon should be honest enough to say what he would cut - he isn't and hasn't, and won't.
He wants to remove public transport subsidies, then doesn't.
$1bn from Labout is inflationary but $1.8bn from National (mostly to the wealthy) isn't (and will help those struggling).
Yes we know what he will do - cut spending as they did before which gave us a failing education and health system.
Open your eyes.
Nope - the cuts are coming and without butting an eyelid, $3 billion savings will be made. Easy as.
Think public sector efficiency & productivity. Cut waste and frivolous spending - the hallmarks of Arden.
And tax cuts go into savings - which helps investments and boost productivity.
Luxon is playing it exactly as he should - let Ardern hang herself as she is doing so incredibly well.
They're going to cut GST back to 12.5%, then?
Again, maybe Luxon could be honest about it.
Cutting health and education (like National did last time) will put us backward again.
As for wasteful spending, maybe you could help National because they can't find anything wasteful apart from about $100mil.
They say Robertson spends 'like a drunken sailor' but can't say what on.
They sound more like Trump and his pithy sound bites every day.
Why should Luxon show his hand until election year? What are you on about re honesty when the Ardern government has been spinning misinformation and lies non stop since taking office? Why are you not demanding honesty & transparency from Ardern?
Anyone with half a pea brain just have to observe how wasteful and ineffective Ardern has been with public spending and know where the cuts are coming.
As for the Finance Minister & DPM, give you some feedback on Robertson from Labour's focus groups last week on the budget when they held sessions with him - 'arrogant, closed minded, thinks he knows it all and waiting in the wings to be NZ's first openly-gay PM'. Remember the feedback is from card carrying Labour members.
Despite Luxon after 12 days as leader of National saying, "as opposition we have to propose ideas, if we are going to earn back the trust of NZ'ers, we have to have good ideas", 6 months later there has not been one single new idea or policy.
Its easy to criticise day after day, but i'ld really like to hear some constructive policies & solutions or I might start to think the total inexperience of Luxon & Willis in government (Luxon a 1st term MP & neither have even been a minister ) is showing how unprepared they & the hollowed out caucus now devoid of talent & experience are to lead any form of govt.
Lets hear some of those 'good ideas' some coherent policies if they actually exist !
For your reading pleasure:
https://www.national.org.nz/policy
Meanwhile, you and the likes of dobby41 willingly and eagerly got sucked into Ardern’s big promises & ideas of fixing all of NZ problems - housing, health, education, crime, child poverty, transparency and kindness. She has delivered none and you have been busy making excuses non stop for her and her team of nincompoops for the last 4.5 years and continue to do so.
If you really want to start thinking, start with Kiwibuild and work from there on how Ardern has totally failed to deliver on new and fresh ideas to make NZ a better place.
Then, think about how much harm Ardern has done yo NZ with her spin and hypocrisy.
The latest polls show Ardern & Labour falling back further behind National - want to know why?
Do you believe that?
You really are sucked in, aren't you?
National wants to go back to the past where they reduced spending (in real terms) on health and education all the while getting lots of immigrants to boost the GDP.
Unfortunately, along with more population wanting to access the reduced health and education, they didn't do anything about the infrastructure required for the increase.
As I suggested - maybe you should advise Luxon and Willis - they can't identify that.
Meanwhile, Luxon is digging himself a deeper hole every time he speaks.
We shouldn't have transport subsidies one minute then backtracks when someone tells him that we already have lots and public transport would fail if we didn't (same as overseas).
Out of his depth at the moment.
I hope he becomes more credible in the next 18 months - the country deserves a credible opposition.