Yes we have a democracy so that will ensure Maori voices are heard without the need for any structural seperation.
Whanau should be listened to along with many other NZers in proportion to their population share.
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Yes we have a democracy so that will ensure Maori voices are heard without the need for any structural seperation.
Whanau should be listened to along with many other NZers in proportion to their population share.
If anyone thinks that this - 3 Waters - is not about so-called 'co-governance', think again.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/ne...-says#comments
Government's water reforms 'not right for Christchurch', mayor says
Tina Law
18:50, Sep 22 2021
In a letter sent to Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta last week, Dalziel said if Cabinet was to mandate the reforms there would be a significant loss of trust, especially after Mahuta previously said councils could opt out after consulting with communities.
“There are other ways of bringing about meaningful change and introducing co-governance,” Dalziel wrote.
The council had acted in good faith from the outset, and it expected that good faith to be honoured, she told Mahuta.
Council staff appear to hold similar views to Dalziel.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ers-look-ropey
Suspend the Three Waters reforms. The numbers look ropey
Mike Yardley
05:00, Sep 21 2021
By any measure, public support and confidence in the Government’s sweeping Three Waters reform agenda is tanking.
The multimillion-dollar advertising blitz, which would have you believe that sludge is pouring out of your taps, is emblematic of the Government’s abysmal attempt to spruik the merits of reform. The sales job has been sensationalist, demeaning and misleading.
At last count, only six of our 67 district and city councils have indicated a desire to opt in to the reform programme, relinquishing control of their water infrastructure to four mega-regional entities.
The Government hasn’t indicated any willingness to pull in the reins, despite the towering wall of scepticism it’s up against.
The Waimakariri District Council has been fearlessly assertive in confronting the reform programme, actively canvassing public feedback ahead of its special council meeting, on September 28.
With 95 per cent of Waimakariri residents imploring the council to “opt out” of the reforms, that now looks inevitable.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300...ter-protesters
Good on the protestors - groundswell anger emerging over Cindy’s racist & fascist attempt to rob the people of NZ from the water resource & infrastructure they have paid for and built up over the decades.
It won't just be the government who sanction access to the unvaccinated, in fact they will probably lag behind businesses that cannot tolerate the potential harm of allowing unvaccinated carriers into their buildings exposing staff or customers.
It's happening now, and will expand exponentially imo. The unvaccinated will unfortunately become a minority excluded from many aspects of society that we all may have previously considered as rights.
As the unvaccinated percentage of the population falls, they become the vector of the disease. Risk on, risk off.
You're missing the point imo, let's break it down:
"You might be right, human nature being what it is, but it's hardly logical" - well yes human nature puts survival as it's top priority, so it's reasonable I think to say the response is entirely logical, to protect oneself and alienate the percentage of the population that are more likely to carry the virus.
"What are the vaccinated worried about again?" - again I think you've missed the point, the vaccinated can still catch the disease, it's just a lot less likely that they will be hospitalised or die, than the unvaccinated. But some of them will catch it and depending on co-morbidity they may or may not get over it, have to go to hospital, or die. Even Vaccinated people are at risk, that's why they don't want a large community of people who breed the virus around them.
" Catching something they have been vaccinated against?" I think I covered that above.
"Oh. that's right, they've been subjected to 18 months of fear." That's where you lose your audience, right there. Surprised though that you didn't conspiracy it with reference to Jacinda. Anyway, the point that I think you're missing is that this disease is worthy of being feared, it kills people, lots of them if it's uncontrolled, which for unvaccinated folks it is.
So putting politics aside if you can, there is a simple and free alternative to exposing oneself to the full potential of this virus, whether or not you end up not getting it, recovering from it, being forever compromised by it, or dying from it, and that's taking the vaccine.
Good friend in Australia lost 3 members of his extended family to Covid this year.
He was not going to get the vaccine, especially AZ which is the only vaccine available there to over 60s.
He not only got vaccinated but is now actively involved in urging & begging people to get the vaccine.
It should not need deaths to wake people up to how deadly Covid is.
Where Cindy is leading us. (Bill Maher is a leftie BTW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BerWhJAMc9E
Lets be clear,
The vaccinated are rightly worried that Delta will spin off new more lethal variants in the unvaccinated population, variants which may easily find pathways through current vaccines.
The vaccinated are also extremely concerned about the friends, family, & others who vaccines won't work for.
- those on or facing chemo, or living with one of the many immunosuppressed suppressed conditions like multiple sclerosis.
e.g. Cancer can strike anybody at any age & chemo suppresses your immune system meaning your immune system probably won't produce a strong enough antibody reaction to the vaccine to give you protection & you'll be unable to fight an infection.
Many people, children & adults survive cancer these days & go on to lead full rich productive lives and they don't want to die of Covid.
We can help them by getting vaccinated ourselves.
And vaccinated people are worried outbreaks & serious illness in the unvaccinated is going to keep us in repeated lockdowns.
The indisputable fact is if we get too many Kiwis not getting vaccinated, we are going to be stuck with more restrictions, more frequent lockdowns, less freedom.
No one disputes this, a very high vaccination rate is the only way out of this.
You can choose to help.
Those arguments would be a lot more persuasive if the vaccinated couldn't contract Covid and infect others. But they can, and will. Because of this, Covid will mutate amongst ALL populations.
People continually make the wrong assumption that I am anti the jab. I'm not.
I'm anti the fear and control propaganda campaign.
I'm anti the eagerness to strip us of civil Liberties to cover government incompetency in preparing the health system.
I'm anti a Domestic Passport that once in use will never be gotten rid of.
I'm anti our government giving 105 million in bribes to the media to ensure a soft ride.
There is no need to be anti-jab to be anti domestic Passport. Everyone should be scared witless by what our government is proposing. A government that has shown it is incapable of delivering a pizza finds it easier to strip its citizens of Civil Liberties than actually do its job.
There used to be a popular quote amongst defenders of democracy, it went something like...."I don't agree with what you say. but I will defend your right to say it".