I always found this a fascinating chart ......trend seems to have continued
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I always found this a fascinating chart ......trend seems to have continued
Its time we moved on from "owning the quarter acre pavlova paradise" mentality. It was quaint. But in this modern age with expanding populations and strain on resources it should no longer apply. Time to have honest conversations on renting and security of tenure
Agree. A countries home ownership rate is not a measure of its success or of the benefits of living there.
Switzerland has a home ownership rate of 43.4%
Germany 51.9%
New Zealand 64.8%
India 86.6%
China 90%
Romania has a home ownership rate of 96.4%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ownership_rate
In what countries would you rather live?
One of the reasons productivity is so **** is that wages haven't grown at a decent rate, so less incentive for companies to upskill and automate when they can just throw another subsidised WFF worker at the job. And of course the ridiculous amount of "investment" that has gone into non-productive property trading.
One of the unintended consequences of automations is downskilling. My two widgets makers might have really good manual widget making skills. And they are being paid a fair wage for a fair amount of productivity - we know that because we have agreed the pay so that is fair.
If wages go up employers will look to automation (or offshore). So what I could do is look at a Widget Making machine. Say I find one that can make 1,000 widgets a week. Now I don't need two skilled Widget Workers. I just need Widget Making Button Pusher worker. Not a lot of skill required for that. So that person is going to going to get paid less.
(Lets not divert from the productivity discussion - but just be aware that profits on trading attracts tax. So can be deemed productive)
Even a great deal of the Government EQ expenditure was covered by the crown having taken out insurance. I recall the net amount spent by the Government after additional GST from private insurance claims and income tax from build activity was just a few billion...just another minor Auckland highway extension....
Lets be honest, as someone who has made large capital gain out of Auckland property and who owns a house there..the social cost in Auckland should be funded in part by those that made the gains....yet Auckland is a classic case of privatise the gain and socialise the losses...
Just like your willing worker and willing employer, there can be a willing landlord and a willing renter. Nothing to stop them agreeing a fixed term contract for 5 years, 20 years, whatever, and including a rent schedule. Given that landlords love good tenants, and many stay for years anyway, that honest conversation should ask why there are not more long fixed term contracts.
I think it was Harcourts in Auckland that said the average tenure of the tenancies they manage is under 2 years. Don't think they split our how many were initiated by which party, but my experience in Wellington city and fringe is that termination is mainly initiated by the tenant.
In any case, minimoke, your suggested conversation is about to begin officially. It has been announced that tenant protections and security of tenure are key to an upcoming review of the Residential Tenancies Act.
There will be consultation, and my experience of such consultation is that advocacy groups will be front and centre. I don't suppose many of those groups will have sensible data on the impacts of rents increasing and vacancies falling. Plenty of anecdata though.
If automation can replace them, then they generally aren't that skilled, common automation replaces dull repetitive tasks with automated ones. And you also forget to mention you need to retrain (or replace) one of widget makers to be a machine operator/setter, and your output volume and quality will also go up a large amount. And then yo will also need someone to service/repair the new wizz bang automation as required, who will no doubt be a contractor, but also highly skilled. Your arguments are nonsense.
I old enough to remember the Typing Pool. Skilled operators and secretaries with shorthand. All gone the way of dinosaurs now. Speech recognition and word processing means a person can do all that work themselves. Applies in all sorts of jobs and all sorts of industries: data entry keyers, Librarians, Accounts people, tax people, cargo and freight handlers - all on the list of being taken over by automation. Eve lawyers today - there an app. You just put in the evidence details and it will come up with a probable judgement.
Its not the dull repetitive task jobs that are going to go. Its those jobs with "well-definedprocedures that can easily be performed by sophisticated algorithms". An interesting research paper here: https://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/do...Employment.pdf
Or go straight to the summary "Our model predicts that most workers in transportation and logistics occupations,together with the bulk of office and administrative support workers, andlabour in production occupations, are at risk".
The only thing slowing transition into this automated world is current fairly negotiated wages. Start accelerating the process by dictating higher wages and we'll see people losing their jobs sooner
Quire right (I was trying to keep the numbers simple)
Add the machine will do its own setting, and will do its own routine maintenance. Chances are the machine has been developed and made offshore and the technical non routine repair cant be done locally due to lack of volume of machines.
We need to tread very carefully when we start calling for higher wages. There will be impacts some people don't want to see.
And something that policy makers ignore is that some people simply aren't very bright. They need simple routine repetitive tasks in their employment. The policy makers are silent on where these people fit into a high wage economy.
How tax efficient is owning your own home in NZ? Do non-owners in effect subsidise owner-occupiers?
Historically how does after tax return on residential investment property equity compare with other forms of investment?
How do tenants' rights and tenure security in Switerland and Germany compare with those in New Zealand?
Machine will do its own setting and routine maintenance. That's just hilarious. Right beside all those cars that do their own oil and filter changes. There is no point in continuing this conversation, I have to get back to my real work, which as it happens is designing automation solutions.
I just said that high home ownership rate is not necessarily something desirable and the provided stats does support this.
Re tax - efficiency: I don't know the Swiss tax rules, but your first owner occupied home in Germany (with a lower home ownership - rate than NZ) is much more tax efficient than a house in NZ ever will be - in Germany you can even write off parts of your purchase price from your other income.
Tenants rights and tenure: Not sure its all about tenants rights, but yes, both countries (Switzerland and Germany) have a much more mature home-rental market. It is over there more difficult (but not impossible) to get rid of a tenant - as long as these behave appropriately (i.e. look after the rented property and don't trash it, don't threat the neighbours and comply with any additional tenancy requirements - pay the rent on time, follow the house rules: noise restrictions, cleaning of common areas, ...). On the other hand - most of the tenants in Germany or Switzerland would look anyway much better after their rental property than they would do here.
Some things go both ways - and I don't think its all about laws, this is about culture and respect for other peoples property.
Yes it is all about culture. In Holland the same situation applies. Tenants will also put in their own curtains, their own flooring and paint the interior of the house. But there is an expectation that they will be there for a long period of time. 10 20 years or longer etc is quite common. It is like BP said very difficult on the other hand to remove a tenant.
Those from a command and control background think (because that is their life experience) that everything they say is real, true and noble, because they once had authority to over-rule any dissension, and that those who disagree with them can be dismissed by rank or wilful ignorance expressed as absolute facts. The ever diminishing circle of inane dialogue only ends up with at best, reluctant agreement to disagree, but more commonly incessant repetitive argument supported by dubious sources, eventually culminating in ghosting.
https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/housing.html
https://www.dw.com/en/homeless-in-ge...o-pay-41848829
Quoting a few figures from Wikipedia doesn't really give a true picture of the situation in any country.
On the face of the above Germany may not be a very desirable place to reside. Singapore also has a very high rate of home ownership but like Germany is highly regulated.
Auckland with it's harbour and other attractions is obviously considered by many as a good place to live. To get people to move to the more colder less populated areas would be difficult.
With modern communications it would be relatively easy to spread Government Depts. around the regions which would boost the local economies and may create a flow on effect.
Cannot see it happening though.
westerly
All of which is a distraction form the original proposition: DOES WFF aid or hinder productivity. I have yet to see an argument supporting WFF as a positive productivity lever.
What WFF has achieved is turning even more people into Government Beneficiaries.
And while on the subject of Beneficiaries, seems 0.02% of oldies (and Bennies) have declined the opportunity to suck further on the teat by opting out of their free $700 Do Whatever You Like With It govt hand out. I wonder If Winston has opted out - I suspect he hasn't a clue he is even getting it. You cant expect sensible discussions on productivity when the Govt has no idea how it is biffing out our hard earned cash
Also occupies people short of ideas to fill their with the time.
Lets have a kitkat and look at this innovative partnerships program with the NZ govt, a logical next step in transportation a self driven all electric plane/helicopter/Drone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeFxjRMv5U8
We are shifting away from a inflated price housing mkt and immigration dependence to innovation and new ideas to export with our commodities.
ps i thought the martin jetpack was a grotesque joke promoted by a full blown narcissist but thats just my opinion.
At present that seems to be simple market forces. Lets put aside the suppression of our ability to find innovative sales solutions to our private property sales by banning foreign buyersTo get work these foreigners need to show there are no skilled or trainable NZ'ers. Other than the ones on Student Visas - coming from one of our largest export industries.I might have missed them but where are the R&D tax breaks are innovative incubator grants - other than to US companiesNo disagreement from me there
The policies and environment in each country do vary. In Germany I believe the banks require large deposits so that means there has been less leveraged capital gains for owners. German banks presumably have therefore lent a greater percentage of their loan book to business.
In NZ owner occupation and private investment in rental housing has been tax effective and beneficial providing a greater leveraged tax-free capital gains for those who can afford to be owners.
I believe property tax is based on value and can be 2% or more of the house value in big cities. Is that correct?Quote:
Re tax - efficiency: I don't know the Swiss tax rules, but your first owner occupied home in Germany (with a lower home ownership - rate than NZ) is much more tax efficient than a house in NZ ever will be - in Germany you can even write off parts of your purchase price from your other income.
Post-war I think there was a big push to quickly replace and provide housing. Both private and public housing was built with help from the German government. There was not the same stigma as in NZ attached to renting. With rent control and other tenancy protections and rights many people were happy to continue to remain as renters. In NZ those who could afford to buy could access the leveraged capital gains and greater security and not be beholden to unregulated rents and a looser rental market.Quote:
... On the other hand - most of the tenants in Germany or Switzerland would look anyway much better after their rental property than they would do here.
Some things go both ways - and I don't think its all about laws, this is about culture and respect for other peoples property.
Not sure where this is supposed to lead ... absolutely - things are different in different countries. Still does not mean that a high home ownership rate is good or desirable in itself.
Your information re "property tax" in Germany is wrong. First - it is no "property tax", but a tax on real estate (comparable to the NZ rates). The way it is calculated is admittedly quite complicated and not fair to home owners depending on where they live. It is calculated based on the value of the property in 1964 (if the property is in the Western parts of Germany or 1935 if its in the East) and this number is multiplied by a factor defined by the district / town and another defined by the country. However - even in one example where this tax is considered as very high (check attached link, just brush up your German) would it be an annual rate of Euro 456 for a property which in 1964 would have had a value of Euro 40.000 (and which now might be worth Euro 200.000 or more).
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtscha...land-1.3942988
I.e. even if people live in areas where the rate is considered to be really expensive it is unlikely to be much more than 0.2% of the current property value per year (or one percent of the 1964 value) - not two percent of present value.
But we better talk about the performance of the current NZ government and New Zealand (as per thread title) ... and lets face it - they promised to build plenty of houses and solve the housing crisis they talked up, but so far I don't see them delivering. Killing the construction industry, increasing everybody's wages (significant part of building costs) and diverting with all their xenophobic measures suitable construction workers as well as investors to other countries is hardly a constructive contribution to solve the problem. Most immigrants got by now that NZ under this government is not the right choice for them and vote with their feet, even if immigration service might still stamp that phrase "NZ the right choice" onto their more and more expensive visas.
I agree it is not in itself desirable. However in NZ Home ownership is desirable as for many decades it has been the de facto retirement plan for those who have been able to afford to own real estate. The poorer have been increasingly shut out of home ownership. Until the modest pension scheme that is kiwisaver there was little to match the tax effective returns as could be earned from leveraged home ownership and investment property ownership. So to make home ownership less desirable would necessitate policy changes in several areas.
It takes a while to tackle the problem of a failing housing and accommodation market (especially in Auckland) that is the result of inaction by previous National and Labour governments. With a housing market open to overseas investors and with Auckland's population suging, there have been winners and losers. There are landowners who have had windfall capital gains as a result; younger and poorer Aucklanders have increasingly been shut out of home ownership - resulting in many having to remain tied to Aucklands rental market with NZ rental conditions.
The non-resident foreign buyer ban is a first step. When the housing and accommodation markets have been sorted out for residents, the ban on purchasing existing housing stock could be lifted by a future goernment. Australia has restrictions on non-resident purchases of existing residences. British Columbia currently has a non-resident purchase tax I believe. Some Asian countries have non-resident restrictions too.
The Housing market, international comparisons and the current government's approach I think are pertinent to this thread.
You may like to mention this to IRD as they seem to think that property investment does not have a tax advantage over other investments. Well so they have said numerous times.
In fact residential rental property is actually disadvantaged compared to other investments, including commercial property, since building depreciation was removed as an expense.
And no good saying, well, leveraged. Plenty of leveraged investments around that are not property based.
Owner occupied residential property is the biggest investment many NZ households, who can afford to buy it, have. It is a separate class. The benefits of ownership - imputed rent - is not taxable.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/i...16-9?r=US&IR=T
Perhaps they refer to the general tax rules, which are the same. In NZ, can you borrow the same percent of business valuation as you could from real estate valuation? In practice how many people could borrow the same amount of credit on a portfolio of shares as they could against real estate valued at the same amount? Hence the ability to leverage untaxed capital gains from NZ residential property, whilst being able to deduct the interest from taxable income (in the case of investor rental property).
Shares are not the only investment that can be leveraged. Plenty of secured and unsecured loans made every day.
And the general tax rules are not the same, they disadvantage - building depreciation as mentioned, bright line rules, residential property restrictions on overseas buyers.
General rules. As this is sharetrader, I was using shares as an example vis a vis real estate.
For that matter dividends are not the same as rents. Demergers and take-overs need court rulings to stop a shareholder being taxed on the capital value of their investment, which otherwise could be deemed to be a dividend! Also a NZ resident can be taxed on unrealised capital appreciation of their overseas shareholdings under the FIF rules. Specific rules vary for each investment type.
Average NZ dividend yield is higher than the average rent yield especially in Auckland....
So, NZ capital is pumped into expensive residential land with the result that NZ dividend yields are high and for want of NZ investors, good NZ companies often need to relocate overseas or risk being swallowed up by overseas purchasers.
The NZ share market is tiny for the size of the economy.
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has announced plans to freeze the salaries of MPs while a review of the pay-setting system is carried out. (Nz Herald)
Hope the pay setting system recommends a big pay cut
Jacinda must be worried about the polls .....taking such drastic action.
This will give the populous the warm fuzzies ....won’t it?
Great stuff ,3% rise due. 2.5% last year. WTF should they get this year after year making the gap wider. School teachers for ex used to get the same pay in the 60's 70's and have been totally left behind hence a first strike in 24 years. Being cynical/sarcastic fits you like a glove w69. Guess we need some in the politics game:mellow:
Auckland hospitals get $305m for repairs and upgrades The City Hospital, Starship, and Greenlane will benefit.
More good stuff from our govt, the cycleway are really transformational but i think of all those many thousands of good people who need pay increases.
Govt pledges $67m to build SkyPath cycleway It's part of a $390m investment into cycling and walking, the largest ever in NZ.
Government wastes taxpayer money to subsidize a rich mans sport and payback Winston's supporters:
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/polit...weather-tracks
So - I guess no matter whether one likes a particular "sport" or not - quite outrageous to see a government which lost contact with its base a long time ago to put taxpayer money without proper scrutiny and process towards their special friends.Quote:
National's economic development spokesman Paul Goldsmith said his party supports the racing industry but the lines are blurred when a project gets the green light simply because a coalition partner likes the sound of it.
"They should be able to make their case clear, and open and rigourous, and if it stacks up, it stacks up.
"The problem that we've got here is that the whole system is opaque and murky so it's hard to disentangle the arguments, and in that area they're not even making an argument, they're just saying we're going to do it,'' Mr Goldsmith said.
Murky times - must be time to drain the swamp!
Im not into horse racing or gambling but it looks like a good business case there.
New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing chief executive Bernard Saundry said the industry has lost nearly $3 million in the last year due to abandoned races.
He said the economic flow-on to everyone in the industry is huge and synthetic tracks would go a long way to providing certainty for trainers and owners.
"I don't see racing as a rich man's sport. It's a sport that employs directly and indirectly more than 50,000 people, it has an economic impact of $1.6 billion a year and it has a major reach right across the North and South Island - and the export opportunity not only for horses but for people to go and explore the world.''
Well, he would say that, wouldn't he? That's what he is paid for. So predictable - LOL.
But worse is that even the numbers from the racing industry chief promoter don't make a business case for the tax payer.
Lets assume for arguments sake it would be a reputable industry. So, he says the racing industry "lost" $3m last year due to bad weather. Not sure how he measures that, but why does this mean the taxpayer should put up $30m to allow some industry to reduce their losses, but worse why to allow some rich pricks to become richer? Whats in it for the taxpayer?
Is it now job of our government to subsidize the "losses" of any industry which might occur some? Privatizing gains and socializing losses? For sure, if taxpayers are called to pay to reduce the losses of the gambling industry, than we should as well pay for the losses of breweries, or of tobacco industry, or for the losses of the booze depot next door and of course for the losses of the mining industry (actually - for latter there would be an argument, given that the government caused them due to their unlimited incompetence).
But a more relevant question would be - why should the taxpayer cough up $30 m to support the gambling industry? Racing is one of these industries sucking money out of poor people they can't afford to spend. Racing is like smoking, drinking or taking dope - addictive and damaging to your health and your finances. Taxpayers are not just subsidizing bad habits but as well having to foot the bill to feed afterwards the children and families of gambling addicts.
Our glorious government is not just wasting tax payer money, they spend it to damage our country!
Shame ...
Any guesses on when the money runs out?
They are burning through it pretty quickly.
Its no mistake Govt announcing end of MP payrises and CEO bonuses. Its a very clear message the economy is tightening and we cannot afford sch things. It is softening us up for the inevitable tanked economy and increase in govt spending message on the back of the virtuous (we are doing our bit by having no pay rise - so no pay rises for everyone else"
Actually - while they stop the CEO bonuses, they are not really reducing the average CEO income, given that they are strengthening instead various other salary package components (sort of compensation for losing the bonus). More leave entitlements and more frequent salary reviews are just some of them.
The outcome: High performers lose their bonus and are indeed worse off. Low performers who never would have got their bonus in the first place however are rewarded - they get all the goodies without the need to work for them.
True Labor: Punish the performers and reward the non-performers!
I guess all these special enquiries, commissions etc have to be paid for!
Intrigue surrounds who leaked that info about Bridges
Think it’s cool that many people are calling the person who sent the text a Textor
Bit rough that Kris Faafoi made reference to a Nat MP’s (named) mental health in Parliament this week.
As JT keeps reminding us ...join the dots ..or something like that
I agree about gambling ,hate it , note how they changed it to Gaming? Note how before a sports game now the TAB has its 30secs to give the odds., thats wrong to me promoting/mixing gambling with sport etc but not to many who enjoy it. So , there area lot of people who enjoy a controlled dabble be it at the races or elsewhere, and who are not addicts. And the facts here support it
"I don't see racing as a rich man's sport. It's a sport that employs directly and indirectly more than 50,000 people, it has an economic impact of $1.6 billion a year and it has a major reach right across the North and South Island - and the export opportunity not only for horses but for people to go and explore the world.''
Pointless having a discussion about whether this (racing industry announcement) is sensible Government expenditure or not. We all know this is part of the price Labour pays to get to Govern alongside Winnie. He did the same for this industry when he was in with Helen. Large players in this and the bloodstock industry are very large NZ First donors. In most countries this would be called corruption
Sure but its called a Coalition ,a great c word.;)
"Stated on the radio today that she and Jacinda used to flat together." lol thanks for the funny to end the week 777
Im not challenging you but i find it hilarious, the association/ inference/ connection; i mean what can two flatmates get up to that is illegal, immoral or makes you fat?lol . Both enjoying camomile tea?
Great to see things taking shape with more detail and planning going on.
Where the new state houses will be built The Government has revealed where it plans to build 6400 new state and community houses.
Promises. Wait to see if they eventuate. Little have so far.
And a link from the page
Auckland 'nimbys' who don't like state housing can leave - Phil Twyford
Idiot.
Year let them live in cars ehh 777 who cares/ who shares You've got a deep moat around your place.?
Cheers by the way.
When they get to the first 100 houses I will reassess the numbers they quote. So far very little to show. Every time Twyford opens his mouth I cringe.
Great to see jacinda being tough on not one but two diary entry lapses. i wonder where craic would place this in the justice scales?
You're nominated to track progress 777 but please keep up and give us progress results and numbers as they arise , thanks.
things could be worse .
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They weren't just "diary entry lapses" JT. She kept them out of her diary on purpose and lied to Parliament about the meetings. The Minister for Open Government !. What a joke and even more of a joke that she hasn't been fired from all her portfolios. A big mistake by Jacinda that will come back to haunt her
“Affairs” are not new for our anthropologist Clare
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Curran
How much does the motor vehicle only harbour bridge cost to maintain?
The Skypath would be a great asset and visitor highlight - it's for walkers, wheelchairs as well as cycists. We need a greater push for more cycling friendly routes in Auckland - anything to help reduce the Auckland devotion to single occupant car travel.
Great game and great respect for our PM
"Perenara, meanwhile, confirmed he had given Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern his All Blacks jersey when she came in to the changing-room after the test.
"She's special to my family and to my community so that's something that was important for me to do," he said.
LOL - somehow they are all the same - after Sir John its now Cindy's turn in trying to take a bath in the All Black's glory, sniff at their worn shirts and hoping that some of the All Black fame magically rubs off.
Only a hypocrite would run down one of these marketing events and praise the other ;);
They are .Very normal for PM's to attend big games. What wasn't normal was when Key was using Ritchie Mcaw politically off the game.
I think TJ is a top guy myself and setting a good example to us all.
Its not normal for PM to have a brand new baby. Interesting to see where she saw her priority. Tucking baby in at night or a photo op.
I have no view on TJ - its his jersey to do what he likes. I'm not sure its the best use he could have made of it but there you go.
TJ instigated giving his jersey and Kieran Read did the same giving her spontaneous hug. Great stuff, great (but too one-sided)game.
JT - looks like you are milking this event to the utmost extend.
Now - we all know that the current populist watermelon government has not many achievements to crow about, but I guess your focus on this for the work of this government absolutely irrelevant meeting with the AB's makes the lack of real achievements so much more visible to everybody.
Is this what you intend to do :p?
You cant keep your love under a rock forever BP.. Sour losers stuck in a black cloud of ill wiil to their great cost.
They say - "never fall in love with a stock", and I guess the same is true with a government. Love makes you lose your good instincts and you only will notice that they sold you out when it is too late.
Be glad that there are still some level headed people on this thread who see the government for what it really is. If you are not sure what I am talking about - read "the emperors new clothes".
Level headed Allbacks doing some very cool spontaneous gestures, a great vibe to observe imo.;)
TJ was the ‘chosen’ one as it was deemed his jersey would be the best fit for her.
And good to see Tew on the band wagon as well saying rugby needs zillions from the government.
Being Minister of Sport as well as Finance is a good lurk I reckon
Will we be seeing Jacinda in jockey’s silks next .....when they open one of these new racetracks
No that will be W:t_up:inston lol .
LOL. If that, then all infrastructure and facilities should be user pays...All Bridges should be user-pay. There should be tolls for all motorways, congestion charging at peak times, remote communities should pay for the full cost of bridges, telecoms and infrastructure that support them. At the end of the day, NZ has been developed using cross-subsidies.
I think Bridges has an imminent use by date so dont think there will be many candidates for user pay for Bridges:D
Meanwhile at the business meeting this morning.......
Westpac New Zealand chief executive David McLean told the audience to "get over the election result" and get on with business
Great to see CEO of AIR leading the business advisory council too.
PM announces new business council to combat falling confidence
Tough - really? I guess if you remove the blinkers, there are other ways to look at it:
http://act.org.nz/tag/free-press/
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A WEAK PRIME MINISTER
Jacinda Ardern showed a serious lack of spine on Friday afternoon by failing to fire Clare Curran. Curran has been dishonest with the PM and the public about who she has had ministerial meetings with. She should have been sacked, but the PM couldn’t bring herself to do so, keeping her on as a Minister outside Cabinet and only stripping her of a couple of portfolios.
SCRAP THE PORTFOLIOS INSTEAD
What does the Open Government and Government Digital Services Minister actually do? Even Wellington insiders wouldn’t be able to tell you. We clearly don’t need these highly-paid and redundant portfolios. ACT’s Smaller Government Bill would limit the number of Ministers to 20, providing greater focus and accountability.
Totally appropriate and showing her leadership with Curran. Well done , on we go. Bridges unfort a fail not sorting out Collins with her fake news recently, thats weak.
PM: Clare Curran sacking from cabinet was proportionate
This is likely to end up another botched appointment process like the Police guy. "proportional" = nice word to fob us off. Cuaran had secret meetings while minister of broadcasting and Ministry of Transparency. Curan didn't learn from this first significant mistake. That is incompetence. A proportional response would be to remove her from all portfolios requiring competence.
Blah blah blah , keep looking tip your half empty glass out over your feet.
Thats the worst you guys can come up with really , havn't you got better things to do are you fiddling, loitering with bored intent.
Celebrate what you can do for your country not try to tear it down at any opp.
Dont forget to put the toothpaste cap on, really fellas get a life , you've only got one shot.
More opaqueness from the transparent government "We'll just keep the Labour Sex Camp report under wraps thanks very much".
Who is being held accountable for allowing alcohol to be served to minors. Who is being held accountable for enabling an alleged predator to roam. Who is being held accountable for not going to police in first instance. Who is being held accountable for not informing the PM (yeah right!)