Originally Posted by
SailorRob
Ok Bull, that is fair enough.
Earlier today you stated;
'the important thing to me is i know and can prove' (that you have beaten the market)
So having made that statement, by definition you must know what your returns have been.
The S&P 500 (what all professionals and serious investors call 'the market' and measure returns against) has the following total returns;
2013 32.29%
2014 13.69%
2015 1.38%
2016 11.96%
2017 21.83%
2018 -4.38%
2019 31.49%
2020 18.40%
2021 28.71%
2022 -18.11%
The CAGR over that time with dividends reinvested was 12.4%
What have your returns been over this period, either a CAGR for the period or preferably year by year. As above, you have this information and can easily provide it.
You must include all cash in your results. I.e. you can't have a year where you're 90% cash while the market rips 30% and you only compare your equity portion that year. It's everything every year.
Super easy to provide. You are anonymous here so nothing to worry about.
If you don't want to provide in public, perhaps a group of us could meet at a bar somewhere and you bring along your returns and when it's proven that you have achieved what you say, I will shout everyone. Would need to go into more detail for 'the bet' but I agree it's not easy.
If you have chosen another market to measure yourself against, that's fine we can use that instead.
Daytr, this all goes for you as well.
For me, I have never said I have or can beat the market. It would be exceptionally difficult over a full cycle.