Yes Arjay, possibly so.
Zeta have actually done quite well since listing, up from 44c in June to 56c current. Being significantly undervalued relative to asset backing they could do rather well on success at Matuku.
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Yes Arjay, possibly so.
Zeta have actually done quite well since listing, up from 44c in June to 56c current. Being significantly undervalued relative to asset backing they could do rather well on success at Matuku.
Actually Arjay, Gore's Global Warming beliefs have been completely and universally debunked based on the last 20 years of data. Even the term has had to not so discreetly be changed to Climate Change. And the notion of definitely 100 percent caused by humans to "contribute" has also been edited in there, completely unnoticed by you apparently. An obedient and partizan press will do that though. And anyone who questions the status quo of this religion is of course, a flat earther, a heretic, a sinner etc. But I digress.
Balance, you don't seem to have answered the question, here it is again:
But let's take the obvious hypothetical question, what if the disaster was primarily caused not by public or private sector regulators, or by the company's failures to comply with regulations, but by failures of the minors themselves to comply with regulations, either with suggestions that they were, for example, deliberately blocking sensors or failing to report problems, or continuing to work in what they knew were unsafe conditions (perhaps in order to maximize their returns).
Hypothetically, if this were the case, what action would you wish to take against the sponsors and beneficiaries of the perpetuators (ie their families) and regardless of their responsibilities under the law?
Stu, I don't quite understand your post. What are you actually trying to say about global warming/climate change?
I think is was during the 2000 debates where the 2 candidates were asked about global warming, Gore replied that it was completely man made, measurable and real, and completely correlated and caused by co2 levels. Bush replied that humans definitely contributed and pollution should be reduced, but the causes, effects and solutions needed to be clarified. Given the climate is always changing, and given there has been no warming in the last 20 years (let alone in line with Co2, and given Bush is considered an idiot, this places Gore in a dubious position. To maintain credibility and momentum then, a system of interchangeable and changing terminology is used, GW/CC being bracketed together, Anthropogenic CC (or AGW) being used interchangeably with, then without the "A", replacing CC with the next iteration etc. Essentially using language to make the dogma fit the science. especially with so much political capital at stake.
The planet (this time with some help from the swelling human population) may very well warm as it has plenty of times in the past, we are after all in an ice age. But Gore's prophesies from the last century were mostly guesswork and political expediency.
And what of it anyway? With the US abandoning the mid east to their anti-democratic chaos and nuclear arms race, and their own economy collapsing, and China and Russia growing ever more influential and expansive, and europe in a hole,
the international "community" isn't going to be too worried about things like energy compliance and emissions for a while.
How's that for off topic? :laugh:
And my answer to you is precisely the same as before.
A damning Royal Commission report,
A scathing judgement ('total lack of remorse'),
An investigative book which exposed how safety was blatantly disregarded by Pike River management and safety warnings ignored,
And two exNZOG directors cowardly refusing to testify to help ascertain what happened.
We still have Noggers here trying to shift blame to the victims of the tragedy - a tragedy brought about due to the total disregard for safety by Pike River.
Digger and you are stooping very low, and it's very clear you like to be down there.
So stay there.
Moosie - that's a great idea. Extramural at Massey may be worth a look. You can fit the study around your normal life as well having a big get together on campus over the term breaks.
Stu, might I suggest you also consider doing a few more papers in science directed towards a better understanding of climate science. Unless you have been pulling my leg, I'm afraid all the science out there is demonstrating without any shred of scientific doubt that we have a very serious situation in the world where anthropogenic driven climate change is now firmly upon us. Your reference to no warming in the last 20 years is simply astounding and defies all the published data that I am aware of. However I don't see that your comments are off topic because the whole nub of the problem as I see it and as relates to this thread is how to intelligently link continuing hydrocarbon exploration with our continuing survival on this planet, and this predicated on acknowledging the scientific reality of CO2 linkage to climate change.
Thanks, Moosie.
Let's start with getting NZOG to man up, apologize for promoting, supporting and driving the Pike River Mine towards the tragedy, and doing the moral imperative of the right thing as a first start towards 'how I can do more for those suffering?'
And what is going to be your contribution, Moosie?