I'd call it morally reprehensible
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Regardless of any motive, its great to see Blue go Green ; sort of.;)
Nats support climate drive
Who are these Taxpayers Union people? Sounds like a few ACT members.
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/...-get-pay-boost
Politician. That's going a bit far.
Doesn't worry me who the govt. is. It's just a matter of modifying your modus operandi to reap the benefits. After all, it is Labour, specifically Bill Rowling, who opened my eyes to the world, and allowed me to acquire a reasonably comfortable life style from a very young age. Nowadays I'm past caring, but socialism as preached by current Labour will not take the country in the right direction. That provides me ample opportunity to taunt their advocates for my own amusement.
It's anything that doesn't knock the steam out of the economy. That doesn't weaken incentives or create disincentives while providing a safety net for those who need it. And first and foremost - to protect our citizens. Hence I would like to see Labour bring in strict dog laws; outright banning some breeds. Something National deemed too difficult. Yet every few months there is another victim of dog attack. Very often a young child. And occasionally a death. That's a simple example of something only the govt. can implement to protect us.
In addition it's a party that does not give ministerial powers to the likes of Twyford, Hipkins, Davis and one or two others.
One thing we can agree on about some dog breeds.Some humans could be banned from owning dogs too as they bring out the worst in said dogs.
Dangerous dog breeds, 100% in agreement with you there Fungus. ( I have owned three dogs over 30 years, Bichon Frise X 2 and now a Shi Tzu, nice , social non agressive.) The other issue is that these dam agressive breeds are also a danger to other dogs, which is why I am reluctant to walk our dog along St Clair/St Kida beach.
Why dont governments act??
1) 3 year election cycles
2) cost of enforcement
3) officialdom, behind the scenes cautioning a Minister against it
4) " make concerned noises, and secretly wanting the "it will blow over and the public will move on"
There are many issues like this unfortunately
The dog thing is complicated, our precious powder puff wouldn't hurt a fly, but neither would the Staffy Bull Terrier of our good friends (despite how mean and dangerous she looks). They both play together like children at kindergarten. Quite the opposite of what common knowledge suggests a 'killer dog' should behave. I reckon it's all about the dogs' owners, and how or whether the dog is trained, which sadly there are many who have those inherently dangerous breeds with no concern for their behaviour.
It's not something that is easy to legislate. Legislation (law) is about informing the majority who wish to conform and punishing the minority who don't. The problem is finding the balance, which is why dangerous dog legislation struggles to get a hearing and hasn't passed into law thus far.
Certainly, how the dog is brought up .. we have a Ridgeback which I've seen classed as a Dangerous Dog and she is the biggest wuss around..only here size and puppy like energy around kids has to be pulled up at times (running in the house etc) but it was trained into her not breed(thanks to local trainer that showed us the ropes) .. she has her place at the bottom of the family pack drilled into her at a early age.. always had to walk into a house last -feed last -not allowed in certain areas ...inside house only on her own bed and floor etc no jumping on beds or chairs or people etc...
I agree many people shouldn't have dogs or children for that matter softness has a lot to answer for..
Once one of my wife's friends had to get my help walking home from our house as there was a nasty Labrador stopping her being able to walk down a surberbing street just over the road showed all the signs to want to attack .. hard to believe a so called NZ favourite family dog being as issues but this one needed retrained or bullet (along with the owners)
Hmmm, I wonder why this article has been pulled from the Herald site
I read it before it was pulled, and quite frankly I was disgusted. Trying to make a single exception to the foreign ownership law changes by allowing an elitist development in Northland to go ahead. A US billionaire, and Darby involved. There are connections going back as far as Patterson.
Dunedin mafia eh, who'd have guessed?
Apparently Mallard refused to let it through - good on him, but Parker needs to front up on this.
I listened to RNZ attack dogs having a crack at Parker this morning. Keep it up.
Just in case anyone missed the great news:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/p...come-baby-girl
All over the global TV channels , great st:t_up:uff
Misguided at worst compassionate and empathetic ,good to see.
"We had some sympathy for their position because it's an iwi development that's taken many many years and it's been subject to a lot of delays but we tried and it's been ruled out of order so we're not going to take it any further."
The development is made up of about 100 sites, with sections valued at more than $4 million each.
Parker maintains the concession was made by the select committee and his office as the Government sympathised with the iwi (Te Uri o Hau hapu and Ngati Manuhiri) involved in the development.
They made a submission to the select committee about the delays they've suffered and those were the reasons," he said."
Simon's a bit worried about it though, as he said during this Radio Hauraki interview that he mangled good and proper.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...y-poll-ratings
Finally the Coalition seems to be achieiving one of its pre election promises, to reduce net immigration. It has been achieved by Kiwis voting with their feet and leaving the country, like they did last time Labour was in charge https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12075818
Yes only a small drop so far, but your motley lot hasn't been in charge very long so quite an achievement to turn things around so quickly, fake news or not !
Thank dog we are not relying on artificial stimulants like immigration to keep our country going. Every day i am thankful for this change of direction.I see the results of jaffas (aucklanders :) but not just) pouring into Tauranga, this place is clogged up now and there is no fix ,thats the new norm!!:scared:. Its not only the traffic jams.Try going to a boat ramp in the middle of winter on a saturday on dawn for ex , its clogged up, just one of a multitude of unexpected examples/effects! Sell yourself if you want to, its those that follow that have to live with your short term, low hanging money makers, imported slave labour(fact) etc etc. The consequences of incentivising people to pour in here are ruinous, for this green and pleasant land, yeah right , thats fast becoming the past, tui.
Labour responding to the housing crisis with this recent announcement.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12071219
Great stuff. Its going to be catchup for many years solving housing after the easy low hanging fruit pickers of the past. Cometh the hour cometh the responsible entity. All the other living standards and qualities we had? Heres hoping we can get some back.
"Aiken said 300 state houses in the North Shore's Northcote were being replaced by 1200 new residences in a $750 million intensification on HNZC land: 400 new residences will be state homes and 400 KiwiBuild homes and 400 affordable free-market homes. HLC is delivering the free-market and KiwiBuild homes, he said"
I'm pleased to see it is quite OK to anglicise a name on the presumption the native language is too hard to say or spell. Should save us a bit on te reo now we can just spell things how we like. And before I get flamed - I'm all for keeping things simple as well.
Northcote state housing area. You wouldn't want to live there. Mixing it all up won't fix anything.
That is a huge looming issue. State house applicants need points on several factors to make it onto the social housing register. That is - approved for allocation of social housing, many apply but don't make it onto the register. One of the criteria for getting enough points to get onto the list in the first place is difficulty obtaining private rental housing, including recent release from prison.
That means that approved applicants have more than average issues, and we now know addictions are OK and will be referred for rehab.
If a third of homes in a densely populated development are social housing that is potentially a whole lot of neighbours with issues. How many buyers will be keen on that? Perhaps the private buyers will be in gated communities. Kiwibuild buyers - unlikely.
How many drug users - current, in rehab, relapsed - would it take to put buyers right off buying there? I suggest not many. And let's not forget that almost half of applicants on the social housing list are single adults, no children, and many will have issues, including addictions.
At least $1,400mill disappears from the NZ multinational corporate profit base to tax havens every year, from the larger companies like Google that have been looked into.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/104981535/study-suggests-us1-billion-in-profits-shifted-from-nz-to-tax-havens-over-12-months?utm_source=ST&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign =ShareTrader+AM+Update+for+Tuesday+26+June+2018
Hopefully this government will do something about it by next year.
Id certainly feel safer if a drug or alcohol addicted lawyer was kept in a gated community ,for example.
As we all know drug and alcohol problems are right through our society and a mega problem. Luckily this govt is increasing funding and resources in this area
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Matt & Jerry interview National Leader Simon Bridges
Lampooned , well done guys:t_up:
Actually it was a very witty interview. The fact that you see it differently says more about you JT. Maybe it is you who was lampooned.
But don't give up, your posts are getting funnier by the day.
I agree it was hilarious and i see the leader of the opposition is indeed hilarious, and not to be taken seriously. Jeremy Wells is one smart guy;)
Police announce First man not under any police investigation. Then Andrew Kirton calls it quits on Friday. First lady has her baby in the weekend and off on official leave for six weeks. Police today announce arrest in Labour Sex Camp coverup. No surprise really - that timing cant be coincidental. Four charges as well
I suspect that will be Labours line - but not my expectation. I still want to know when the PM was advised. More detail on why they thought the PM ought not be immediately advised of 4 sexual assaults on a Labour "sponsored " function. Why matters were withheld from NZ Police. Why youth are so indoctrinated that they are more concerned about harm to party than seeing justice done for their comrades. And who provided the alcohol as well as who failed to supervise the underage children. No doubt we'll just get more baby photos
Lets dissect it for a moment:
- When have teh police ever front footed a civil matter of rumour (defamation) to say an individual is not under police investigation? (I reckon never)
-police take 4 months to commence laying charges against a person known to them from day one of teh investigation where every one (except teh accused potentially) says the offences happen. It didn't take them 4 months less a week before PM stepped into maternity leave or four months plus a week after PM had retuned from hospital.
- Govt owned air NZ just happens to have a "Government relations" job going and out of all teh applicants (including ex national MP's ) he just happened to secure it on teh eve of a police announcement
- First lady has her baby and is kept under guard for three days at hospital after no apparent complications with teh birth and plenty of family and public support and then announces name of baby just before police announcement.
I suppose you still believe out of al teh people who knew the PM had the day before attended a Labour event which resulted in four separate alleged sexual assaults, under age drinking and kids so crook they were still puking the next day and no-one, not one single person thought to mention it straight away to the PM
Don´t worry minimoke, I´m sure Nicky Hager is already writing a book about these filthy politics. Tui
The police have stated they were getting so many inquiries from the media, they took the unusual step of publicly saying they were not investigating your first man.
Why is there not a media frenzy from the generally right favouring media if there is any truth in your
allegations? Why has Judith not been emailed?
Be carefull, you may have the SIS, Nicky Hager, and the armed offenders all arriving on your doorstep.All together. Only joking :)
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Guru Mark from Craig’s comments on business survey ....but no worries because David Parker says the survey is a load of crap
Mark Lister (@MarkListerNZ)
27/06/18, 4:24 PM
OK. So business confidence has now been negative for nine consecutive months, the longest stretch in more than a decade. I’m not sure the government can ignore this for much longer. Policy uncertainty is clearly a key factor, and it doesn’t bode well for growth.
Pay rises and about time , good for all those people swimming to stay afloat, or walking the treadmill to cover their costs of living and pay the rent/ mortgage. Ultimately a win /win/win for us all.
Twyford still arguing fuel tax is not a regressive tax
He just doesn’t get many things
"No new taxes" (https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...es-says-labour) isnt tha thow it went? so now another petrol tax for everyone to enjoy is coming up. Good one labour. Twyford now says "There will be three increases in petrol excise duty of 3.5 cents a litre from 30 September, and equivalent increases in road user charges from October 1, and further 3.5 cent increases in 2019 and 2020.
"This will cost the average family 83 cents a week this year, rising to $2.50 a week by 2020."
I better go out and buy a more economical car!
Yes, no need for new taxes when there's plenty of existing ones to increase!
Last Thursday I tried to enter my IRD return to enter dividend that would radically affect my return and result in a significant rebate for me. Finally I telephoned IRD and persisted 'till I got a real person. He got the numbers from me, worked it out and told me the amount I could expect to receive in my A/C by "Wednesday of next week". The money was in my account by Friday, the next day. I've always had great service from IRD.
Ever noticed? Traffic here dies on Fridays. Nothing to do with politics or brain functioning. I suspect that hordes of guilty posters decide to catch up on the work they have been ignoring all week - except for Aucklanders. They have their heads buried in maps, trying to figure out how they are going to get home tonight.
Craic, all is not lost. Even the National Party couldn't help but be impressed with increased rail traffic in Auckland, as this article shows.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/31...ry-short-time/
In answer to your post, I knew the article was an old one, but it was the first to pop up when I went looking for data on vastly increased rail passenger trips in Auckland. Kickstarted while Labour were in last time, likely to get a new big boost soon.
Did the Clark/Cullen govt trash the country? Very low unemployment, they had a dream run economically and used it to pay off almost all old Crown debt. All the while the Nats were screaming for tax refunds in the house. After the GFC hit and the voting public predictably looked for change, the Nats used up that Crown credit plus a lot more, pushing a serious taxable debt and interest costs onto the next generation of earners. They also progressively sacked a lot of crown and SOE staff, which encouraged the private sector to do the same. The Nats also stopped paying into the Cullen Fund, at precisely the time when they should have done the opposite, forgoing billions in profit for taxpayers. All this data is on the public record.
Helen Clark didn't flee the country, she applied for a very high office in the UN, and got the job. She is/was one of the world's most powerful women.
So what if there are a few strikes now and then - these are legitimate calls for a catch-up in pay rates, and any seriously useful business can afford to pay staff above the cost of living. The vast majority of changes this government has made, are in the right direction as far as I am concerned.
Best possible use for trains. At Undarra in Queensland they have a heap of carriages in the bush, used as accommodation. Quite a large number of visitors can be housed. Or just south of Mahia they fill them with concrete and push them off the line in a vain attempt to prevent more erosion.
Would they be old carriages, past their use-by date? In that case, fine. We're talking about light rail, electrification. The Nats wanted to remove all the electric trains from the North Island trunk and pull out the gear, go back to all (Chinese made?) diesels. Because it's a bit cheaper maybe. That's the wrong direction when we're needing to reduce fossil fuel use and we have mostly hydro power generators.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/87810900/Kiwirail-to-dump-electric-trains-and-replace-with-diesel-on-North-Island-main-trunk-line
Hamilton has just put some new double-decker buses onto their city routes, the main positive for me? They were all built up in NZ.
In this case they are diesel I would suspect, but at least they have some NZ content.
The coalition's view on electrification of rail. Good background.
https://www.noted.co.nz/currently/en...ovt-disagrees/
Those business confidence surveys are just a measure of political bias. The link between confidence and performance of the economy can be non existent. Amy Adams etc are doing what they do best, scaremongering and recklessly talking down the economy, desperate and dirty.
The Helen Clark Labour govt from 2000 to 2008, business was pessimistic 88 out of 99 months and the economy GREW 3.2% a year!
2009 to 2017 under National business was optimistic for 89 months(during the GFC and ChCH earthquake) and the economy grew about 2% :t_up:
Growth around 3% is continuing now.
Skilled staff is a/the major common issue and who created that eh?. labour have jim bolger taskforce on board, fees free policies,apprenticeship incentives , importing skilled labour etc
A good listen here, on National radio of course. Listenduration 16′ :12″
If you want to be informed listen to the podcast, if not dont.
And burdened future Governments with crazy and hugely expensive middle class welfare schemes like WFF and interest free student loans, that were politically desperate measures to try to hold onto power, knowing it would be politically suicidal to try to remove. People like freebies and we the taxpayers pay for them. The Coalition Government has started down the same track and that may have something to do with lack of confidence by those that have to pay for it all.
Thankfully this is likely to be a one term Government arrangement https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/9...in-party-jason
I had listened to that discussion when it was on radio.
I think we both probably only hear what we want to hear but I would hazard a guess I probably hear a bit more than you do.
That quote re GDP numbers under Labour / National are a bit misleading (mischieviously so?) as they have lumbered the Labour generated recession numbers into Nationals tenure. The NZ economy did grow strongly in the early 2000's but it was driven more by the RBNZ creating a boom rather than any political policies .....and we suffered the consequences in 2006-2008 with several rate increases (a bust) leading to that recession
Maybe business confidence polls have some political bias but I doubt not to the degree some make out. I do the ANZ one for a small business I'm involved in and until recently the NZIER one for a corporate and answer as to where I genuinely think things are heading (maybe swayed by all the crap the media put out? maybe not).
Think what you will but the chart below showing the relationship between GDP and one of te questions in the NZIER business outlook surveys is pretty compelling. From a Tony Alexander report but has real numbers from NZIER and Stats NZ. No comment is really needed but no harm in reading Tony's comments
http://tonyalexander.co.nz/wp-conten...uly-5-2018.pdf
Cheers winner, outstanding post. Less emotion and more facts. Where is the reputation button when you need it?
W69, how exactly did you come to the conclusion that Labour's policies led to a recession in 2007-2008? Wikipedia shows that the GFC's first indicator was in August 2007, and the Dow-Jones hit a peak in October 2007.
I also note a conservative bias in the business activity outlooks. While the opinions are about 50-50 balanced around zero, the GDP growth rarely drops below 0%. However as these collective opinions do appear to be leading the actual GDP growth chart, it's also possible that there is an element of it being a driving force, but not always a positive force.Quote:
The first notable event signaling a possible financial crisis occurred in the United Kingdom on August 9, 2007, when BNP Paribas, citing "a complete evaporation of liquidity", blocked withdrawals from three hedge funds. The significance of this event was not immediately recognized but soon led to a panic as investors and savers attempted to liquidate assets deposited in highly leveraged financial institutions.[22]
The International Monetary Fund estimated that large US and European banks lost more than $1 trillion on toxic assets and from bad loans from January 2007 to September 2009. These losses are expected to top $2.8 trillion from 2007 to 2010. US bank losses were forecast to hit $1 trillion and European bank losses will reach $1.6 trillion. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) estimated in 2009 that US banks were about 60% through their losses, but British and eurozone banks only 40%.[207]
One of the first victims was Northern Rock, a medium-sized British bank.[208] The highly leveraged nature of its business led the bank to request security from the Bank of England. This in turn led to investor panic and a bank run[209] in mid-September 2007. Calls by Liberal Democrat Treasury Spokesman Vince Cable to nationalise the institution were initially ignored; in February 2008, however, the British government (having failed to find a private sector buyer) relented, and the bank was taken into public hands. Northern Rock's problems proved to be an early indication of the troubles that would soon befall other banks and financial institutions.
Proof (as if we needed it) that NZ voters are not really ready for radical policy changes, for better or for worse https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12085868
"As noted in our analysis of the ANZ’s monthly release, there is a downward bias to business sentiment when Labour are in power as businesses worry about new regulations,the lack of business sector familiarity of the MPs,
the eventual loss of fiscal bowel control, infighting by ideology-
driven people, and this time around the fragile nature of the coalition and secret deals not yet revealed to the public.
Arrogance and incompetence basically.
This means we have to be careful not to over extrapolate these results into a
dystopic economic outlook."
Quote from Alexanders weekly over view. Seems to be slightly (?} biased to me but not unexpected given he works for a bank.
The part I do agree with (which received a mention on the AIR NZ thread) was synthetic meat and milk will in the not so distant future have a significant effect on the NZ economy.
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I always that it intriguing and somewhat ironic that in the early stages of the economic boom in the early days of Labour’s last term in the 2000s net migration went from a 10,000 outflow to a 40,000 inflow......50,000 net change in migration over a few years
Yes, as the StatsNZ article and chart shows, in Labour's last term there were three years of medium net immigration, but National's term had four years of higher net immigration than Labour's peak. So a lot more people turned up over that time period.
http://archive.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/population/Migration/international-travel-and-migration-articles/kiwi-factor-migration
And a lot of those were Kiwis returning home during the GFC and a lot of kiwis not going overseas due to the world economic situation.
Isn't that a good thing if expats like to come home (as they did under National) and Kiwis stay at home instead of queuing up at the departure gates as they did under Helen Clark?
It is really sad to see Labor supporters celebrate that they get rid of our own people - just to make their poor housing policies looking a bit better.
We are nearly one year into this populist government. Just wondering - how many of the 10,000 promised additional houses per year did our government build so far?
EZ — I wasn’t saying net migration was a good or bad thing
What I was pointing out that during the first few years of Labour’s previous tenure there was a significant increase in net migration (~50,000) and the economy roared ahead.
JTs and no doubt your view is that in the economy roared ahead under Labour because of their economic / financial management (in spite of falling business confidence) — my view is that factors like net migration and RBNZ drove that growth rather than any government policy.
I will agree with you if you say the same thing happened during Nationals tenure
I’ve always thought it a bit sad that since the 80s every year there has been a negative net outflow of NZ citizens
From that article — Since 1986, an average of 21,600 more Kiwis have left than arrived back
So over the last 32 years that’s nearly a net 700,000 Kiwis who have deserted NZ. Just as well we allow foreigners to come to this country
Nobody seems to have explained why.
Communism by Stealth .... so says Hooton
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12091904
About a third of my generation - siblings and cousins - went to Australia in their early 20s or so. About 12. None came back. All settled there and raised families.
My sister came back to NZ after her OE and tried to settle but couldn't. Mind you that was Palmerston North. Several others were also from the provinces, some rural.
Small sample but bright lights over the ditch beckoned.
Working for Families has cetrainly created a whole set of problems. Which is why the "Living Wage" movement is interesting. This will see the minimum income burden shift from governments Working for Families to employers wage bill - with no improvement in productivity.
“National furniture and appliance retailer to mark the start of its second century of trading with a commitment to the well-being of its staff; introduces 'well-being' day and grants extra day's holiday to mark centenary”
Oh, the irony. The very best thing Smith City can do to look after the well being of staff is give them long term job security. They are now undermining this by increasing wages costs, not committing anything to improved sales volumes or margins thus decreasing overall profitability. All the while peacocking this social do-gooding. Why they bother I don’t know. Average hourly rate is already $26.36 when the LivingWage is $20.55. If their sales people can’t earn $20.55 an hour through performance bonus / incentive schemes they shouldn’t be in retail sales. I'd be firing the low paid workers - not giving them more. (Disc.– thankfully not a holder of SCY!!)
Edit. SCY shoulda looked at the Warehouse Group. Introduced Career Retailer Wage back in 2013 - inspired by Living Wage. Check out the share price since then!(Hint: Value of company has approximately halved since the introduction - thats what happens when you dont have a monopoly environment like the local council or government)
Lots of hoohah at the moment about the canned fundraising concert planned by Sir Ray Avery. I wonder if Helen Clark also knew all about the background. I've met people like this, it'll probably be all about a big payoff at the end, a company on the up that gets flicked off.
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/07/24/164742/can-ray-avery-turn-promises-into-reality
NZ Business confidence at low levels: http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/bus...fidence-ranks/
And this was surveyed eferi the passing of legislations that makes employers pay 2 weeks leave for domestic violence; before the end of trial periods, before the introduction of compulsory agreement to a Collective Employment agreement, before the impact of "living wage" and minimum wage increases, before transportation cost increase in Auckland and before Jacinda announces her next great employment idea. I bet it will add an extra burden on employers and do nothing to boost productivity.
Just for the record.
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/07/f...medium=twitter
Are you stooping too 777?.This muck raker is the lowest of the low imo. Inform yourself and read Dirty Politics by Nicky Hagar and follow the links all the way to the National party top office in the country just a short time ago.
No. Just balancing the postings we get here from the left leaning rag your group continue to post from. For the life of me I can't remember what it is called. Must be have a small circulation.
And Nicky Hagar. I wouldn't read anything he writes. He is lower than what you think Whaleoil is. Not that I follow him that closely.
But that article proved Clark had met Avery. Photographic proof.
When I posted it I guessed you would be the first to reply. You are so predictable.