It can't be as clear cut as that for each farmer. If his herd is infected it's culled, there won't be any selecting. Across the national herd it may balance out a little.
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Best wishes to farmers and all to create a world first and eradicate. Having had it for only two years gives some hope they can, other countries had it for a decade or two before they even knew they had it ive read.Also hope all farmers do their best cooperating or it will fail. Very emotive and unsupportive item on the news by the couple who got a days grace, selfish even.
Who will be first to get Jacinda's boot? Hipkins, Curran, or Twyford? What do you think eZ? You know how I value your opinion.
Yes, what's important now is that MB is not allowed to spread in NZ. I can see farmers might preempt this by creating a fenced buffer on their boundaries. No calf club days, lambs only. Other species besides bovines are not thought to be significant carriers for any period of time. At least once a dairy farm is cleared of animals, it can be disinfected and allowed to rest for 60 days, then restocked. The MB bacterium doesn't survive for long in the ground, but prefers moist environments. It could have come in with imported feed, but that's considered unlikely. It may have come in on second-hand imported equipment. That might line up with the fact that only one strain of the bacterium has been identified so far. Calves being fed infected milk from an infected herd can easily get the disease. MPI are scanning milk samples from every herd in the country to pick up any outliers, although it's not foolproof. Monitored farms will need all contractors and goods/vehicles going on and off the property to be disinfected. This is a huge wakeup for the farming sector, but let's hope that no-one ever disparages or bypasses NAIT again, and that prompt action from this government and the farming sector will eradicate the infection.
The tax working group are making steady progress.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...ay+29+May+2018
Fair enough ... though - Cindy is pretty talented to throw money around. A billion here (taxpayer funded cow slaughter), nearly a billion there (winter subsidies), a handful of billions to pop up free education, a quarter of a billion there (just increased pay offer to nurses), add some more billions for all the other pay demands in the pipeline - hey, here is money for everybody - I heard teachers are dreaming already about two digit pay rises (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=11929440 - which no doubt will increase the demands of nurses again) ... and suddenly it looks like real money ;);
No worries - Cindy has another talent - she is really good in rising taxes ;);
Looks like I was even a bit harsh in assessing this young and multi talented Labor politician. Great in spreading money around and talented in rising taxes - these are already two tricks for this pony :p;
Our man Phil on the ball again when talking to Epsom people - "If you don't want to have affordable housing or quality density housing in your neighbourhood, you go and live in Pokeno or Dairy Flat."
Is Pokeno a nice place?
Does anyone here truly begrudge teachers and nurses pay rise.? If so you are miserable excuse for a human being imo.
Prof Peter Gluckman has been kept on as the govt's chief science advisor, and the recent report on the negligible effect of smoked meth residue in houses is going to help the homeless situation.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...t-report-finds
Go to any state house area around NZ and there are empty houses, sometimes just one small house with no garage, on a full quarter acre section. While some are being infilled, others turned into about four units over two sections, there is plenty of scope here without having to bring new services to the boundary.
If you are delivering little 'messages of hope' (Labour pamphlets!) to such streets, you can't help noticing unattended letterboxes, unattended everything. Having these empty houses here is not a good thing, it can't be helping.
Generalizations are always wrong. No doubt there are teachers and nurses who are worth more than they are paid. No doubt, there are others who are already now overvalued. I do know examples for both categories and I am sure so do you.
Rising all salaries in a profession however is brain dead. Nurses want to earn as much as teachers now. Teachers want to get a 2 digit pay rise. No doubt nurses will want to catch up with that as well. No doubt bus drivers and policemen feel underpaid as well (particularly if nurses and teachers get their pay rise). No doubt our council workers all earn a pay rise and so do all people working in retail and in the industry. And don't forget hospitality staff - doing very important work and getting paid peanuts. They need to be paid properly for their important work (no kidding). What about all the other service industries and what about farmers?
Just guess how we will end up? A big pay rise for everybody. If not - whom do you intend to pay less? Never mind that somebody will need to pay for all these additional dollars paid out - Goods and taxes will go up in step. Nobody will have more at the end, it is just that more (nominal) dollars will buy less.
Never mind - lets try it again - shall we?
They call that inflation. Great policy!
Been 10 years for nurses and what 16 years for teachers since they've had decent increases. I think the majority of folks support them(re 65% in an informal poll i saw recently for teachers), essential workers undervalued for too long, fact.
Yeah - reminiscent of the sixties and seventies. Hyperinflation, vicious unions, stikes, strikes, strikes. A horrible time in our history. Let's hope we don't see a return of those times, but with some of the noises coming out of Labour I'm not holding out too much hope.
Its all getting a bit scary. Where did the DHB's suddenly find all this money which isnt in the budget for a pay settlement. Just a sniff of a strike and govt comes up with more money. So what are the teachers going to do, what are public servants going to do. MPI under more pressure, Immigration under more pressure, housing under more pressure - all equals more pay demands. And you have Labour who are firmly of the view union involvement is an absolute must and industry awards are the way to go. I see the 70's nice and clearly.
Who will pay for it? Will we be able to stick to the No New Taxes mantra?
How about about introducing to investments in real estate the "Fair Dividend Rate" that currently exists for Foreign Investment Funds.
I.E. unrealised net value gains (after expenses deducted) of more than 5% in a year be deemed to have produced a taxable return of 5%?
Sounds good. Looking forward to the tax review results. National wanted to drop taxes and avoid paying teachers, nurses etc a well deserved long overdue rise. An uncaring lazy irresponsible national govt in many areas taking the easy path imo.
Unfortunately its true RGR. Labour is doing the right thing, national was only thinking of staying in power.
Nothing worse than a government not able to make decisions and say NO. Yes to big pay rises for everybody - can't find anybody who does not deserve it. Yes to create commissions to decide about a commission to decide about something else Labour should have sorted out in its nine long years in opposition. Yes to expected but unplanned tax rises and new taxes. Yes to hyperinflation and increased bureaucracy.
It is clearly Labour and its appendixes going the easy way - and National will later on need to clean up after them.
Wasn't the 1970's and early 80's the time when you had (in a NZ context) extremists in the unions and an extremist in power (Muldoon - aka NZ's King Cnut trying to hold back the tide.) Social tensions started to boil over with Bastion Point and the Springbok Tour. At least the Nats and Labour (without the Greens) are more or less centrists now.
Finding Government's slush fund
"Not least of these is the legislation amending employment law, currently before Parliament.
Either way, a substantial boost to public sector incomes is now clearly signalled, with flow-on into private sector wages almost inevitable in the next couple of years.
With the Treasury already forecasting a continuation of above-inflation wage growth over the next three years anyway, and the fiscal stimulus of the July 1 Families Package yet to be felt by lower income households, the stage is now set for robust domestic consumption in the medium term.
That should keep the economy ticking along, which is important because the forecast increases in the tax take are fundamental to affording a public sector wage break-out, while keeping to the Government's self-imposed Budget responsibility rules."
That´s great news JT. As simple as increasing everyone´s wages, boosting the economy to increase tax takes and everyone is happy. Hand me another Tui please.
You're are finally getting it guys, a pallet of tuis coming your way, well done, .....finally!:mad ;:
At local cafe waiting for my mate to turn up couldn’t help but listen into a passionate conversation at the next table
Obviously keen Labour guys who were lamenting that even with Jacinda’s pronouncement that neo-liberalism was dead Labour don’t seem to be making much effort to lose their ‘neo-liberal soul’ as they put it.
They seemed to be disappointed that getting into power has changed their intentions / priorities and staying in government is now the main objective.
Luckily I was saved from the rest of this conversation by my mate.
LOL.
My wife says I will always argue the opposite to whatever someone is saying. Therefore given the preponderance of right side ( usually wrong though) supporters on Sharetrader it is only natural I would take the opposing arguement especially when there is a misrepresentation of facts.
Things aren't always what they seem. :)
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Sir William ......yuk
But as things go probably deserves it and if you believe in such things
Pity it is an automatism to knight past PM's, whether they deserve it or not. Makes it like a promise from the Donald - absolutely meaningless.
The other thing is that history seems to show that politicians and other celebrities (whether they deserved the title or not) have been at the time of being knighted or damed well past their "best before date". I didn't put Bill into this category yet, but now he accepted the title I am not so sure anymore ...
Better be careful - he might end up on a board next to us ;);
Just to clarify - I think he made a fine finance minister for a long time. If that's what the Sir stands for, than so be it.
This government is the bad as the last Labour one. As Bridges puts it, "governs by decree"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104...il-exploration
Shocking lack of process.
And then we have this "Labour has increased its operating allowance by $24 billion more than National planned, the money coming from an extra $9 billion in debt, higher tax revenue than expected and scrapping National's tax cuts."
Looks like all the criticism of Steven Joyce's fiscal hole was right. His numbers were far too low. The $24 BILLION is despite forecast current spending on health and education being $ 3.3 BILLION less each sector.
CUllen better hurry up with his tax increases recommendation. This motley lot will need it very soon.
I hope Taranaki gets a brand new stadium out of the Regional Development Fund
Footie stadiums vital to regional development
C’mon Shane ,,,sort it out quick
It sounds sensible, maybe the Northland funding is getting away on him. He has been targeted a bit, from what I've seen.
Here's Simon Bridges making a mess of an interview with Guyon Espiner on RadioNZ a couple of days ago, about the state houses laid to waste during National's tenure.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/play..._id=2018647858
Now, Simon says we had a housing crisis.
Listened to that lol. He got a full house at a meet the locals in Warkworth nearly all 65 years plus. Go Winston ohh i mean Simon. He had to tell them that he didn't have any asian in him too ehh, weird:confused:
Just to keep you informed
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/104...-private-clubs
Nobody takes much notice of Hooto but interesting
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12066447
The reason for the urgency is suggested by its context. After Labour's mishandling of the sexual assault allegations at its summer camp, Winston Peters' inexplicable stance on the Russian chemical weapons attack in the UK, Phil Twyford's comical Pt Chevalier KiwiBuild announcement, and the scandal involving Clare Curran and RNZ, Ardern was desperate for something — anything — to reassure her core supporters.
The National Party had/has an even better system. They simply invoice a few well-heeled business-people from each electorate each month on an ongoing basis on behalf of the local MP, and this might be a few hundred or few thousand dollars a month, but for that donation, the business leaders get to have a lunch or dinner with ministers or senior party members, regularly. It's all about these businesses getting to lobby ministers about their pet ideas, to have a line through to the beehive. Or, they'll have a golf tournament with a very high entry fee, it's much the same.
Maybe Labour is getting a bit tired of the constant raising of funds from begging emails to all and sundry on their mailing list. Stuart Nash has been pretty good at raising funds for his campaigning, but much of it comes from a few well-off friends I think. He's one of the few exceptions.
Regardless, since the Labour/NZFirst/Green coalition is in power now, some of these corporate donations might be dropping off for National. Business owners will be looking for a similar setup from Labour, maybe that's why these $600 lunches have worked out OK. Believe me, it's small time compared to what National had been doing.
Sorry I'm a bit slow EZ and don't understand your obfuscated response to blackcap. In your view, is fundraising like this OK or not ?
Let's just say I didn't know until more recently about National's system of fundraising from affluent business owners and the like. It doesn't feel OK that these people could have a much more direct line to lobby MPs and ministers, than most of us do. MPs all know that campaign money usually results in equivalent votes for those parties that have a long-term branding and marketing effort. That's the big four, they always get about 85%-90% of the party vote between them. Some National MPs in the big rural electorates run three offices. Most of the money comes from parliamentary services, but those offices are only there for the populace, not for party use. Their campaigns still have to be funded too.
There's two things there. One is access to MPs and Ministers, The other is money donated to a party.
Access is relatively straightforward. Yesterday I spent the best part of an hour with my local MP on a complex policy topic. Also yesterday a mate spent time with a Minister, again on a policy topic.
In each case it was a matter of requesting an appointment. We are both ordinary people, not lobbyists or rich and famous.
Our representatives seem to be very accessible, even meeting in cafes sometimes.
Fundraising is a different beast. Some donors support multiple parties. Some support the one they agree with. Some donors seem to manage a nudge nudge wink wink with supporters of their industry. Can't possibly imagine which Deputy PM might be involved in anything like that.
Commendable effort by Labour in Northcote
Some reckon Bridges didn’t help Nats cause...result doesn’t really matter but no doubt analysed to death to prove what you want ...like Kirton already touting a moral victory
The trend is good, now that he's established his name there and made the previously strong National seat marginal, Shanan should be able to take Northcote in the 2020 elections.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/loc...te-by-election
A little dissapointed. National got about the same % of votes as last time 51%. Voter turnout was way down 21000 v 37,000 at election. Labour candidate has integrity and values and is a local, the other guy to me is a salesman.
What a surprise - JT is trashing the winning candidate. Let me guess - it must have been the National candidate who won?
So - "just a salesman". Not sure what's wrong with that anyway, but for JT are probably just blue collar workers and farmers honest people, and we are not so sure about the farmers either -aren't we, JT?
BTW - The name of the other guy who did win the election is Dan Bidois. Admittedly - he is young (but so is Taxinda) and he has got already quite a career:
Manager, Strategy and New Ventures - Foodstuffs North Island Limited
Strategist/Fellow - Malaysia Blue Ocean Strategy Institute
Economist/Policy Analyst - OECD
Research Analyst - The New Zealand Institute
Ah yes, and he started his career as president for the Auckland University Students' Association. Must have quite a spine and outstanding leadership skills prepared to put his foot down against the red flood and the unions. No wonder JT does not like him.
BTW - I can't find "salesman" on his CV :p;
JT - you are so predictable, but confirming an unknown Labour candidate integrity (and implying with that the National candidate "just a salesman" has none or less?) is just one of your too frequent dirty smears. Are you not ashamed of yourself?
Oh dear, JT - you must be kidding. Confirming this particular Labour candidate integrity and values must be the own goal of the year :p;
Wasn't this the guy who claimed on his CV that he holds an MBA and later had to admit that he just started to study part time towards an MBA (and later broke up his studies?
https://yournz.org/2018/04/21/future...dates-profile/
What values? What integrity? But I am sure - one of Labours best people :p;
Yes, definitely a possibility Labour could regain Northcote. Not a huge number of votes between National and Labour and the gap should narrow if the coalition is seen to be doing well. A lot will depend on whether Labour's support parties stand against Labour there. eZ, would you see Labour doing an electorate deal or two in 2020?
Makes sense to me if support parties stand aside in exchange for a clear run elsewhere.
At least JT only called Bidoir a ‘salesman’ - could’ve have been worse and said a car salesman or worse still a seller of financial products.
But isnt that NZ Institute in some people’s eyes an evil organisation.
I listened and watched interviews with both candidates before forming my opinion , i suggest others do the same before reactive uninformed comments.
More of a tit for tat unoriginal and disingenuous post is what i see. Try responding rather than low quality reacting.Like a real opinion.
This ad has been running for weeks on H/C. Either JK is involved or he would have had his profile advertising it shut down by now surely.?
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I think posters are rather restrained reacting to your posts JT. I would think they would be a bit like me and start typing a reply and then trashing it because they are wasting their time. I doubt very much that your first sentence in post 1171 is the truth as you are so biased towards Labour that you wouldn't bother to listen to anything a National candidate would say.
[QUOTE=777;717872]I think posters are rather restrained reacting to your posts JT. I would think they would be a bit like me .....quote
Ok... 666, minime77, and microme 7., ever diminishing seatbelts:eek2:. Seatbelts have their place though, in a pileup:). Hope you take your helmet off sometimes and do silly dances to get the blood flowing:).
This interview showed a candidate with a generalist knowledge and a slick selling approach, and big ego, with a candidate with an authentic thorough, informed local knowledge and an honesty you cant fake. The difference stark to me in this sniff test despite my bias. I warmed to one and not to the other, thats my experience of the two personalities
Watch: Northcote by-election - Bidois v Halbert
[QUOTE=Joshuatree;717892]JT, don't worry - everybody makes mistakes - even you :p; though calling Halbert "honest" appears to be somewhat Trumpesk :P:
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/04/w...anans_mba.html
Just wondering - is it common practice in your nick of the woods to make up degrees if you don't manage to earn them?
I think the sooner you allow this candidate to get out of everybody's mind, the better it would be for Labor and for you. I guess - just imagine, people might start questioning your judgement :D;
So - lets keep talking about this honest candidate of high integrity (your words, not mine) ...
So the soon to be acting PM is taking large Government departments and their heads to court. They can apply to the Cabinet he will be chairing, to have their fees paid, even though surely that should be automatic in this case.
Should this silly man not stand down as acting PM while he continues this witch hunt, all because he was found out to be taking Government money he was not entitled to and he knew he was ?
Surely this is a new low, even for Winston Peters. Interestingly he has not renewed his misdirected attacks against National Party people except Paula Bennett as a minister for the department he holds the grudge against. This grumpy old man is totally unfit to hold the office of PM
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12068606
Lets keep questioning each others judgement for sure , we will seldom agree in this political arena . Hey if you have very 2nd day off , i will too:t_up:
Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other.
Oscar Am ringer, “the Mark Twain of American Socialism.”
I offered my opponents a deal: “if they stop telling lies about me,
I will stop telling the truth about them”.
Adlai Stevenson, campaign speech, 1952
Any more fave political jokes.?
Great to hear that Nicky Hager has a full apology from the police over the 2014 raid on his home. And probably a not insubstantial payment as well.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...-of-settlement
The police searched Nicky's home for 10 hours while he wasn't there, after the first hour he claimed journalistic priviledge. But the police didn't find hidden documents, some of the Snowden Papers he was working on. Nicky has protected his Rawshark source and produced a great book in Dirty Politics. Of course the Nats haven't given up on these techniques, trying to smear the PM's partner, until the police were obliged to step in and debunk the situation more recently.
Every day now, we're seeing positive progress towards a more positive political arena. Gerry Brownlee's been caught playing solitaire in question time, he says that's Ok, Simon says it's Ok. Yeah right. If Gerry doesn't find being in opposition interesting enough, he should resign.
I agree EZ - a good outcome
Yes quite amazing isn't it how far they went to try and stop the truth then and in the future.Who would then take the risk of blowing a whistle on an injustice or deceit?. Im getting a copy of that book now. Sad to see national carrying on this way. Dig them out Nicky , expose them for all to see.
its not a new low, its a no
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Mr Peters is nearly everything I detest about politics.
But he's not really PM even though technically he is. He couldn't make some outlandish ruling without being over-ruled , Jacinda is pregnant not comatose.
Minister Eugenie Sage of the Green Party (name is a misnomer) has just given consent to a Chinese company to buy land classed sensitive, close to Whakatane, to bottle water for exports. All in the name of increase in investment and jobs. Great stuff and totally aligned with the bravado before the election isn't it ?? No shame on the daily backflips from this Government
In this case it applies to both.
How long will this Government last ??? https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...tling-decision
This decision is on the face of it, contrary to Green policy. They have to obey the laws of the land in these decisions, and 60 new jobs are going to make a difference in Whakatane.
I did some quick maths, and 1.1 billion litres a year is 0.002% of the water in Lake Taupo at any one time. (There's 59km3 of water in Lake Taupo). Suffice to say, this is still a lot of bottled water heading over to China in plastic bottles by sea freight (About 100 mtr cubed per year). Has to be one of our lowest value exports by weight. It makes you think - humankind devouring resources like this, importing reasonably clean water because they're short of it somewhere else. Are we a plague on the planet?
EZ, your post is exactly the reasoning National gave last term and the Greens fought against as an election policy. I don´t have a problem with this being granted but I do have a problem with the total hypocracy.
And then we get this from the guy that was involved at Board level to take Sealords into Argentina where they lost somewhere between $30-40 million. What a fool https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12070053
Good on you jonesy you are so right.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12060004
David Clark up to dodgy bribes to gag Counties Manukau health Board chair. Fancy offering up jobs to silence unhelpful media, This is NZ David, Not Russia!
Good to see government setting off the wage inflation spiral by ensuring all government workers get at least the Living Wage.
Taxpayers Union have a view on this living wage ‘initiative’
It is morally questionable to require taxpayers, many of whom don’t earn the living wage, to pay above market wages for government workers.