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Balance
26-06-2024, 08:15 AM
I have seen NZer Lucy Hockings on the BBC. She is a good interviewer. She has clear unemotional questioning, yet gets to the point. Maiki is very staccato in comparison, although it has been a while since I have seen TVNZ news.

The BBC wanted her to moderate her Kiwi accent though!

She shifted to UK in 1999 - 25 years ago when she was 24 years old so hardly a NZer any more in a professional sense. She certainly has done well and do great to see. Good on her to make the move and make a big success of herself. Stay in NZ and she would have had to adopt to the Maorification program to get anywhere.

Go woke, go broke - that’s Aotearoa today. Heading towards 2nd world status fast.

winner69
26-06-2024, 08:46 AM
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Balance
26-06-2024, 09:05 AM
This is a cool chart from that Poll …most expect to be worse off

And in all seriousness, how many of those polled rely upon the msm to form their opinions rather than read & understand the budget?

Go woke, go broke - that's Aotearoa today.

Bjauck
26-06-2024, 09:23 AM
She shifted to UK in 1999 - 25 years ago when she was 24 years old so hardly a NZer any more in a professional sense. She certainly has done well and do great to see. Good on her to make the move and make a big success of herself. Stay in NZ and she would have had to adopt to the Maorification program to get anywhere.

Go woke, go broke - that’s Aotearoa today. Heading towards 2nd world status fast. A Māori language and cultural awareness course on the CV, would be a positive for international broadcast jobs. It would show experience in learning correct pronunciation and etiquette in a language other than English. So that would be a positive attribute for an international broadcaster or for an international reporting role, as well as for positions here in Aotearoa NZ in the South Pacific.

If anything, a strong NZ English accent may be the biggest disadvantage.

Balance
26-06-2024, 09:24 AM
A Māori language and cultural awareness course on the CV, would be a positive for international broadcast jobs. It would show experience in learning correct pronunciation and etiquette in a language other than English. So that would be a positive attribute for an international broadcaster or for an international reporting role, as well as for positions here in Aotearoa NZ in the South Pacific.

Garbage.

Woke mindset spout woke garbage.

Bjauck
26-06-2024, 09:31 AM
Garbage.

Woke mindset spout woke garbage. Lucy Hockings had to undertake Elocution lessons as the BBC thought her NZ English accent was too broad. That would be the biggest hurdle for a NZ broadcaster seeking employment overseas!

Daytr
26-06-2024, 09:39 AM
Garbage.

Woke mindset spout woke garbage.

Kia ora,

It's only garbage to those with a closed mind and your constant barrage of criticism of anything Maori underlines your attitudes towards Maori.
How can being a fluent speaker of te reo be a negative? Bjauck is quite correct in his assessment & it would also demonstrate to an international employer that the person is comfortable picking up languages in general. A great skill for those in the media.

Your posts of woke go broke BS, NZ is stuffed etc are tiresome & seem to reflect some form of depression on your side. Your great hope of ACT or NZF being the saviour of NZ is a fantasy a bit like your so called Beach house and also reflects your extreme views. A bit like Shane Jones or Winston Peters, you have far too much to say for yourself.

You could at least be constructive in your posts, rather than boarish rants that are repetitive and constant. Honestly the amount you post on these threads not only lowers the tone it also reflects some sort of need or addiction.

Yes I know, I will wait for the standard boarish response. Or perhaps this might actually work and you will restrain what is your nature.

Nga mihi.

Balance
26-06-2024, 11:20 AM
Good morning Daytr.

kihi toku tuara! :D

mistaTea
26-06-2024, 11:35 AM
A Māori language and cultural awareness course on the CV, would be a positive for international broadcast jobs. It would show experience in learning correct pronunciation and etiquette in a language other than English. So that would be a positive attribute for an international broadcaster or for an international reporting role, as well as for positions here in Aotearoa NZ in the South Pacific.

If anything, a strong NZ English accent may be the biggest disadvantage.

LOL.

Yes I am sure the Maori course Lucy did is what secured her the job at the BBC. How much te reo has she used in her news bulletins again?

Let's try keep at least one foot on planet Earth chaps! :D

mistaTea
26-06-2024, 11:39 AM
Kia ora,

It's only garbage to those with a closed mind and your constant barrage of criticism of anything Maori underlines your attitudes towards Maori.
How can being a fluent speaker of te reo be a negative? Bjauck is quite correct in his assessment & it would also demonstrate to an international employer that the person is comfortable picking up languages in general. A great skill for those in the media.

Your posts of woke go broke BS, NZ is stuffed etc are tiresome & seem to reflect some form of depression on your side. Your great hope of ACT or NZF being the saviour of NZ is a fantasy a bit like your so called Beach house and also reflects your extreme views. A bit like Shane Jones or Winston Peters, you have far too much to say for yourself.

You could at least be constructive in your posts, rather than boarish rants that are repetitive and constant. Honestly the amount you post on these threads not only lowers the tone it also reflects some sort of need or addiction.

Yes I know, I will wait for the standard boarish response. Or perhaps this might actually work and you will restrain what is your nature.

Nha mihi.

If you are going to go full Dandelo and virtue signal to try to get a rise out of posters at least double check that you got the spelling right please.

:t_up:

mistaTea
26-06-2024, 12:32 PM
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520591/justice-minister-paul-goldsmith-confirms-coalition-plans-to-amend-sentencing-laws

These changes cannot come soon enough.

Balance
26-06-2024, 02:01 PM
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/520591/justice-minister-paul-goldsmith-confirms-coalition-plans-to-amend-sentencing-laws

These changes cannot come soon enough.

Those measures do not even restore the pendulum of justice to the middle from the pro-crims policies of Ardern & Kelvin Davis!

Glaringly missing is increased punishment for parents and adults who use their kids and youngsters to commit crimes. Fxxk them.

The way to get rid of crime is to get rid of criminals so that they do not get to mingle with society. The money being spent jailing the scumbags is the best spent of monies in the justice system.

mistaTea
26-06-2024, 02:28 PM
Those measures do not even restore the pendulum of justice to the middle from the pro-crims policies of Ardern & Kelvin Davis!

Glaringly missing is increased punishment for parents and adults who use their kids and youngsters to commit crimes. Fxxk them.

The way to get rid of crime is to get rid of criminals so that they do not get to mingle with society. The money being spent jailing the scumbags is the best spent of monies in the justice system.

Rome wasn’t built in a day. The new govt cannot go too hard too fast or they will spook the horses.

I like this change as a starting point.

Balance
26-06-2024, 05:02 PM
Rome wasn’t built in a day. The new govt cannot go too hard too fast or they will spook the horses.

I like this change as a starting point.

I am thankful that ACT and NZF are there to add steel to National’s fickle spine.

Without them, National would still be talking and pondering.

mistaTea
26-06-2024, 05:08 PM
I am thankful that ACT and NZF are there to add steel to National’s fickle spine.

Without them, National would still be talking and pondering.

Agreed 100%. ACT and NZF are the balls of the coalition.

Not sure if that means that they amount to a testicle each, but that’s probably just academic at this point!

Getty
26-06-2024, 07:24 PM
What a vengeful woman that Maiki Sherman & TV1 must be.

Not happy that she had to present positive poll results on the coalition last night, they spent the last 24 hours with another poll, then using methodology l don't recall being used before, came up with a minus number for Lux, and a plus for Hipkins.

Bentdick Collins didn't show his face.

Must have gone off to straighten himself out, and become a better member of society.

Getty
27-06-2024, 05:47 AM
Te Karere Maori news presented the recent TV1 poll that showed
coalition parties support rising, this morning

What a difference!

No bias or over ride of opinion, just the facts, and let the main political players do the talking.

Well done Te Karere, news as it should be offered.

mistaTea
28-06-2024, 11:25 AM
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/media-insider-hollywood-film-in-auckland-domain-bsa-rules-on-mike-hosking-maorification-comment-ad-agency-in-liquidation/MZR3JSEZ6ZFKNCKSATPNCFE2VA/

This Richard Lane fellow who complained about Hosking using the term Maorification sounds like a fun guy to be around.

I think a good clip around the ears is what most of these white saviours need.

mistaTea
01-07-2024, 04:25 PM
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kainga-ora-chief-executive-andrew-mckenzie-resigns-government-changes-at-state-housing-agency-not-what-he-signed-up-for-chairman/JWQFG6MNP5D7PJGO7QJW6NL6ZE/

In other words, Andy has been managed out.

Balance
01-07-2024, 04:52 PM
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kainga-ora-chief-executive-andrew-mckenzie-resigns-government-changes-at-state-housing-agency-not-what-he-signed-up-for-chairman/JWQFG6MNP5D7PJGO7QJW6NL6ZE/

In other words, Andy has been managed out.

“Not what he signed up for.” WTF does that mean?

So typical of Hipkins and Ardern that Labour would renew a contract with him which enables him to get $365,000 package for being kicked out!

This incompetent imbecile of a CEO presided over a massive increase in staff, failure to deliver on housing supply, allowed anti social & criminal tenants to terrorise law abiding citizens with impunity and with no sanction from KO, competed with the private sector by bidding up land prices (in one instance, by 28% as documented) and blew out debt levels.

Yet Labour renewed his contract and gave him a sweetheart deal!

“The report, led by former Prime Minister Sir Bill English, found Kāinga Ora exploited its easy access to Government credit, bingeing on borrowing without giving sufficient heed to the fiscal discipline taking on such immense debts would require.”

mistaTea
01-07-2024, 04:59 PM
So typical of Hipkins and Ardern that Labour would renew a contract with him which enables him to get $365,000 package for being kicked out! WTF!

This incompetent imbecile of a CEO presided over a massive increase in staff, failure to deliver on housing supply, allowed anti social & criminal tenants to terrorise law abiding citizens with impunity and with no sanction from KO, competed with the private sector by bidding up land prices (in one instance, by 28% as documented) and blew out debt levels.

Yet Labour renewed his contract and gave him a sweetheart deal!

“The report, led by former Prime Minister Sir Bill English, found Kāinga Ora exploited its easy access to Government credit, bingeing on borrowing without giving sufficient heed to the fiscal discipline taking on such immense debts would require.”

People aren’t giving the current government enough credit for just not being Labour, quite frankly.

Balance
01-07-2024, 05:36 PM
People aren’t giving the current government enough credit for just not being Labour, quite frankly.

Indeed, mT.

Here’s the arsehole Andrew McKenzie defending KO’s policy of no eviction of tenants irrespective of how rotten & anti-social the KO tenants were:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kainga-ora-boss-andrew-mckenzie-doubles-down-on-no-evictions-policy/2W4OEMCNUIKRPG2NQFEH27AENM/

McKenzie confirmed there was "absolutely" a policy not to evict antisocial or disruptive clients. But he denied this was a Government directive.

He made no apology for the no evictions policy.

"This is not our problem, it's the community's problem.”

ynot
01-07-2024, 05:37 PM
People aren’t giving the current government enough credit for just not being Labour, quite frankly.

Drain the swamp. Fortunately the greens have their own self managed equivalent.

mistaTea
01-07-2024, 06:11 PM
Indeed, mT.

Here’s the arsehole Andrew McKenzie defending KO’s policy of no eviction of tenants irrespective of how rotten & anti-social the KO tenants were:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kainga-ora-boss-andrew-mckenzie-doubles-down-on-no-evictions-policy/2W4OEMCNUIKRPG2NQFEH27AENM/

McKenzie confirmed there was "absolutely" a policy not to evict antisocial or disruptive clients. But he denied this was a Government directive.

He made no apology for the no evictions policy.

"This is not our problem, it's the community's problem.”

He is lucky he just got sacked (I mean decided it was time to leave) and isn’t getting what he really deserves…which is a public flogging.

mistaTea
01-07-2024, 06:12 PM
Indeed, mT.

Here’s the arsehole Andrew McKenzie defending KO’s policy of no eviction of tenants irrespective of how rotten & anti-social the KO tenants were:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kainga-ora-boss-andrew-mckenzie-doubles-down-on-no-evictions-policy/2W4OEMCNUIKRPG2NQFEH27AENM/

McKenzie confirmed there was "absolutely" a policy not to evict antisocial or disruptive clients. But he denied this was a Government directive.

He made no apology for the no evictions policy.

"This is not our problem, it's the community's problem.”

Yet another example of ideological based policy crashing hard against reality.

Prick.

kiora
01-07-2024, 07:28 PM
"Kāinga Ora boss to leave with $365k payout"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350327803/kainga-ora-boss-resigns

"CEO and five directors out at Kāinga Ora"
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/07/01/ceo-and-five-directors-out-at-kainga-ora/

Balance
01-07-2024, 07:33 PM
"Kāinga Ora boss to leave with $365k payout"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350327803/kainga-ora-boss-resigns

"CEO and five directors out at Kāinga Ora"
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/07/01/ceo-and-five-directors-out-at-kainga-ora/

Fxxked them all, especially Mark Gosche who was appointed because he is a Labour lackey.

Daytr
01-07-2024, 07:56 PM
"Kāinga Ora boss to leave with $365k payout"
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350327803/kainga-ora-boss-resigns

"CEO and five directors out at Kāinga Ora"
https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/07/01/ceo-and-five-directors-out-at-kainga-ora/

Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Some of the property deals they did my local area were at astronomical prices, one particular deal was estimated at circa double the market price.

nztx
02-07-2024, 02:14 AM
Fxxked them all, especially Mark Gosche who was appointed because he is a Labour lackey.


How many more of the enterprising over paid achieve very Little Labour appointed pieces of ***** are left on the list to jettison from the various Boards, SOE's & other quasi Quango Govt satellites ? ;)

Is Moneyworth Orrsome just waiting out the time left on his contract before he goes walkies ? ;)

Does Otago Uni still need an assistant Dishwasher on a hefty screw dreaming & bum^^ing around the top offices like a lost hole ? ;)

kiora
02-07-2024, 03:50 AM
Raft of curve balls here?
Economists at work.

"Brian Easton says evaluating the impact of social policies will be very difficult but the government does not seem to be doing much real evaluation"

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/128488/brian-easton-says-evaluating-impact-social-policies-will-be-very-difficult

Balance
02-07-2024, 08:13 AM
Raft of curve balls here?
Economists at work.

"Brian Easton says evaluating the impact of social policies will be very difficult but the government does not seem to be doing much real evaluation"

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-policy/128488/brian-easton-says-evaluating-impact-social-policies-will-be-very-difficult

Did Brian ever ask the same question between 2017 to 2023 when Cindy was going wild, squandering the tens of billions of dollars on social policies?

Balance
02-07-2024, 09:45 AM
Trust woke Stuff to try (yet umpteen time again) to create discord where there is none :

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350328795/kainga-ora-chiefs-exit-new-chair-odds-pm-christopher-luxon-over-performance

Everybody but everybody knows that when you get such praise for a ‘resigning’ CEO of an entity which has failed to deliver that it is part of the settlement process. Andrew McKenzie should hang his head in shame for the failures of KO under his charge. Good riddance to garbage.

Balance
02-07-2024, 10:05 AM
Similar story on the herald.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/kainga-ora-chiefs-exit-new-chairman-simon-moutter-at-odds-with-christopher-luxon-over-performance/VBP2JZEMCNGLDNXJHHBCCWIBCU/

Simon should be canned too if he thinks Andy did an amazing job. His rationale is that Andy built thousands of state houses... well Christ mate, if I have access to easy and unlimited lending I could pay over the odds and build a bunch of dwellings too. No experience needed!

If Andy was so amazing, and there were no issues (like the no evictions policy etc) then they should have been begging him to stay on! But they didn't, he was pushed out.

It would be part of the settlement process - insisted by Andrew 'No Eviction' McKenzie so he can look for his next gig.

Here's Andrew McKenzie caught lying about KO freely using debt to outbid private developers, driving up the cost of land :

https://www.national.org.nz/kainga-ora-chief-exec-misled-select-committee

Balance
02-07-2024, 11:18 AM
Remember how all the wokesters argued against a mobile phone ban in schools proposed by National?

Deadly silence from the wokesters and critics (the same ones who argued against boot camps) now that schools are finding that the ban makes a big difference to students doing much much better in their studies.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/policing-the-mobile-phone-ban-principal-once-a-skeptic-says-its-all-about-the-pouch/FAT7XP5CENBU5MBODKDJ5HPJNY/
Paywalled

Bjauck
02-07-2024, 12:00 PM
Remember how all the wokesters argued against a mobile phone ban in schools proposed by National?

Deadly silence from the wokesters and critics (the same ones who argued against boot camps) now that schools are finding that the ban makes a big difference to students doing much much better in their studies.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/policing-the-mobile-phone-ban-principal-once-a-skeptic-says-its-all-about-the-pouch/FAT7XP5CENBU5MBODKDJ5HPJNY/
PaywalledMany “wokesters” have argued for phone bans at schools. With the exception of Green Party voters, it has wide support apparently. Phone bans are one way to intervene to help improve a school’s culture and attentiveness of pupils. Ensuring pupils are well fed at lunch is another.

This item from 2019 interviewed a cousin of the former PM, Radne Ardern, who was Head of English. They implemented a phone ban. Academic results have improved.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/cellphone-ban-helps-propel-low-decile-maori-school-to-top-of-ncea-ranks/23B2IRC3KBIMOZRKDFOMHIM3UU/?c_id=1&objectid=12227005

Balance
02-07-2024, 12:10 PM
Many “wokesters” have argued for phone bans at schools. With the exception of Green Party voters, it has wide support apparently. Phone bans are one way to intervene to help improve a school’s culture and attentiveness of pupils. Ensuring pupils are well fed at lunch is another.

This item from 2019 interviewed a cousin of the former PM, Radne Ardern, who was Head of English. They implemented a phone ban. Academic results have improved.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/cellphone-ban-helps-propel-low-decile-maori-school-to-top-of-ncea-ranks/23B2IRC3KBIMOZRKDFOMHIM3UU/?c_id=1&objectid=12227005

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/495411/principals-say-national-s-plan-to-ban-phones-in-school-is-unworkable

Really? Wokesters arguing for phone bans?

Bjauck
02-07-2024, 03:21 PM
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/495411/principals-say-national-s-plan-to-ban-phones-in-school-is-unworkable

Really? Wokesters arguing for phone bans? School Heads and Principals are woke? That is quite an assumption and not one that I would make. Even if we assume that they are woke, it does not mean all woke people are against the ban, whatever definition to the word “woke” you choose to use on any particular day.

The Principals Association do indeed make a good point. Behind any broad policy decision, there are the practicalities of enforcement to consider too. If that is being “woke”, then everyone surely should be “woke”.

Marilyn Munroe
02-07-2024, 07:33 PM
About the rail ferry controversy.

If the ferry capable of carrying rail wagons is withdrawn and not replaced, what will be the effect on distribution in New Zealand?

I speculate the extra costs will see a review by manufacturers and warehouses of New Zealand operations. Crossing Cook Straight where either a door to door truck operation or transshipment is chosen will incur extra costs.

They may conclude it's not worth the bother and shift to Australia treating the North and South Islands as Tasmania 2 and Tasmania 3.

Boop boop de do
Marilyn

PS. An old joke;

Scene: Raul ferry cafeteria.

Passenger:"Is this fruit cake fresh?"

Steward: "Yes madam, any stale fruit cake is sent to the foundry at Hillside Workshops to be recast."

Daytr
03-07-2024, 10:47 AM
ACT is not joining the party on obtaining revenue from social media platforms.
Social media platforms are willing to pay influencers and podcasters but not news outlets.

ACT is on the outer here and even Labour largely supports the bill. The main error of concern and Labour is right on this, it is left to the Minister to decide who pays. Powers similar to that as they want in the FastTrack legislation.

It appears the Government has forgotten their place, one of policy setting, they are not executives, they should not be able to pick and choose, as it is open to influence and corruption.

But overall I commend the approach on getting the platforms to pay.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/07/02/media-in-crisis-govt-outlines-plan-to-open-up-revenue-stream/

kiora
03-07-2024, 05:14 PM
Meanwhile in Aus from a X green supporter
"The Greens are housing and ecological disasters"
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2024/07/the-greens-are-housing-and-ecological-disasters/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily+MacroBusiness+-+Feed&utm_content=Daily+MacroBusiness+-+Feed+CID_4e1b4535b6b20006242b192b42e0535e&utm_source=Email+marketing+software&utm_term=The+Greens+are+housing+and+ecological+dis asters

Balance
03-07-2024, 07:49 PM
Every time there is an article about Simeon I like him more and more.

Future PM perhaps?

Just shocking that the only person who tried to help this boy was a 75 year old.

Sounds like the bus driver was more interested in carrying on with his route.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-bus-attack-boy-fearful-of-riding-bus-transport-minister-simeon-brown-blasts-at-drivers-actions/WYKTHU2Q25A2RPWRVQFEMGIGZY/

I would have beaten the crap out of the attacker (woman or not) if I was the victim after wrestling the metal Rod off her (as the victim did).

Kudos and bravo to the 16 year old victim - he is a credit to himself, his family and his community.

As for the bus driver and Auckland Transport, fxxk them and their kind. Bloody disgrace.

nztx
03-07-2024, 07:49 PM
Every time there is an article about Simeon I like him more and more.

Future PM perhaps?

Just shocking that the only person who tried to help this boy was a 75 year old.

Sounds like the bus driver was more interested in carrying on with his route.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-bus-attack-boy-fearful-of-riding-bus-transport-minister-simeon-brown-blasts-at-drivers-actions/WYKTHU2Q25A2RPWRVQFEMGIGZY/


Probably instructed by the Top brass in Wayne's favourite bunch of AT Transport buffoons for mayoral target practice to play the ignore and keep the nose clean game, as if it wasn't happening.

They probably see a bit of this sort of out of control Scum in their parts too - like this unruly in RotoVegas:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rotorua-daily-post/news/rotoruas-kaitao-intermediate-school-staff-and-students-allegedly-attacked-by-13-year-old-girl/4NLQETTCYNF3ZCWU3UHAAFTHJY/

Rotorua’s Kaitao Intermediate School staff and students allegedly attacked by 13-year-old girl


Be lots more of this sort of wayward talent hanging out in the nooks & crannies after 6 years of clueless & incompetent rule by the last lot of drongos & retards ;)

Baa_Baa
03-07-2024, 08:12 PM
I would have beaten the crap out of the attacker (woman or not) if I was the victim after wrestling the metal Rod off her (as the victim did).

Kudos and bravo to the 16 year old victim - he is a credit to himself, his family and his community.

As for the bus driver and Auckland Transport, fxxk them and their kind. Bloody disgrace.

As a matter of interest, you say fxxk the driver, but what would you suggest this lowly paid and probably feeble person should do? Is it in their job description to step in and put themselves in harms way, breaking up passenger fights, risking getting hurt or killed in doing so? I think not.

Or maybe you think there's something else the driver could/should have done, despite the poor kid getting beaten up by the unruly passenger. The bus driver is not a pub/nightclub bouncer, on face value I would suggest very few bus drivers would have the capability to intervene in any way, without putting themselves at grave personal physical risk.

I think the Minister is totally out of order here, criticising the bus driver, like WTF, it has nothing to do with the bus driver, his job is to drive a bus on a schedule, not to risk his own life interfering in his passengers nefarious behaviours. It's like blame shifting, focusing on the bus driver instead of the dirtbag that beat the crap out of another passenger. The bus driver isn't the criminal, or the victim.

Balance
03-07-2024, 08:35 PM
As a matter of interest, you say fxxk the driver, but what would you suggest this lowly paid and probably feeble person should do? Is it in their job description to step in and put themselves in harms way, breaking up passenger fights, risking getting hurt or killed in doing so? I think not.

Or maybe you think there's something else the driver could/should have done, despite the poor kid getting beaten up by the unruly passenger. The bus driver is not a pub/nightclub bouncer, on face value I would suggest very few bus drivers would have the capability to intervene in any way, without putting themselves at grave personal physical risk.

I think the Minister is totally out of order here, criticising the bus driver, like WTF, it has nothing to do with the bus driver, his job is to drive a bus on a schedule, not to risk his own life interfering in his passengers nefarious behaviours. It's like blame shifting, focusing on the bus driver instead of the dirtbag that beat the crap out of another passenger. The bus driver isn't the criminal, or the victim. (*He is the arsehole who did nothing before, during and after the unprovoked attack.)

So you are saying that the driver has zero responsibility?

The bus driver did nothing … zilch … zippo .. zero after the attack. Surely he should have stopped the bus to ascertain if the kid required attention, called the police and/or render assistance.

Instead this arsehole driver not only did nothing but “ “The bus driver told me to get off the bus because he has to pick up more passengers,” Jason said.

“The only time the [bus driver] left his seat was to clean the blood. He didn’t offer any type of help. I had to call the police myself.”

The bus driver should be responsible for the bus and the safety of the passengers pf the bus - just as the pilot of a plane or the captain of a ship. He totally failed in his duty after the attack - totally.

Decency and human compassion alone should have seen the arsehole bus driver render some assistance. He did nothing … zilch. Class ‘A’ Arsehole.

That’s why I wrote - fxxk him - and fxxk his kind and anyone who condone that kind of behaviour by the bus driver.

Incidentally, the incident happened 2 days ago and the msm ignored it until it was splashed all over the Asian social media & crossed over to FB.

I say - bravo, Simeon Brown for getting involved.

What a contrast to Labour ministers visiting gangs, giving them publicity as well as money and praising them to high heavens.

BTW, the attacker is described as a ‘40 year old plus overweight Maori woman.” Is that why the msm steered clear of the story? Well, fxxk them too.

*And do you want to know the ethnicity of the bus driver? That’s on social media too. Give you one guess.

Bjauck
03-07-2024, 09:34 PM
So you are saying that the driver has zero responsibility?

The bus driver did nothing … zilch … zippo .. zero after the attack. Surely he should have stopped the bus to ascertain if the kid required attention, called the police and/or render assistance.

Instead this arsehole driver not only did nothing but “ “The bus driver told me to get off the bus because he has to pick up more passengers,” Jason said.

“The only time the [bus driver] left his seat was to clean the blood. He didn’t offer any type of help. I had to call the police myself.”

The bus driver should be responsible for the bus and the safety of the passengers pf the bus - just as the pilot of a plane or the captain of a ship. He totally failed in his duty after the attack - totally.

Decency and human compassion alone should have seen the arsehole bus driver render some assistance. He did nothing … zilch. Class ‘A’ Arsehole.

That’s why I wrote - fxxk him - and fxxk his kind and anyone who condone that kind of behaviour by the bus driver.

Incidentally, the incident happened 2 days ago and the msm ignored it until it was splashed all over the Asian social media & crossed over to FB.

I say - bravo, Simeon Brown for getting involved.

What a contrast to Labour ministers visiting gangs, giving them publicity as well as money and praising them to high heavens.

BTW, the attacker is described as a ‘40 year old plus overweight Maori woman.” Is that why the msm steered clear of the story? Well, fxxk them too.

And do you want to know the ethnicity of the bus driver? That’s on social media too. Give you one guess. Social media is not a well-known unbiased arbiter of news stories. Do you really pass judgement against the driver by accepting, without question, the allegations against the driver by a schoolboy, who had just been attacked? You seem only too happy to involve the driver in some racist conspiracy, and for that to colour your attitude.

The incident sounds to be horrific. I imagine the bus driver would not want to allow his bus to be commandeered by a passenger or to put other passengers at risk. There are questions to be asked: A few of them: Was the assailant a psychiatric patient released into the community too soon, to save public money? Are bus drivers not trained to deal with these situations safely? Are bus drivers paid sufficient danger money?

Unlike aircraft travel with its security protocols, public bus services are by their nature an open and insecure form of travel, involving an element of risk of unpleasantness from other members of the public. A troubled society increases the risk. The wealthy have the option of reducing these risks by using chauffeurs and taxis.

Balance
03-07-2024, 10:03 PM
Social media is not a well-known unbiased arbiter of news stories. Do you really pass judgement against the driver by accepting, without question, the allegations against the driver by a schoolboy, who had just been attacked? You seem only too happy to involve the driver in some racist conspiracy, and for that to colour your attitude.

The incident sounds to be horrific. I imagine the bus driver would not want to allow his bus to be commandeered by a passenger or to put other passengers at risk. There are questions to be asked: A few of them: Was the assailant a psychiatric patient released into the community too soon, to save public money? Are bus drivers not trained to deal with these situations safely? Are bus drivers paid sufficient danger money?

Unlike aircraft travel with its security protocols, public bus services are by their nature an open and insecure form of travel, involving an element of risk of unpleasantness from other members of the public. A troubled society increases the risk. The wealthy have the option of reducing these risks by using chauffeurs and taxis.

Which part of the bus driver doing nothing before, during and after the attack do you not get?

The schoolboy did not tell the story - the 75 year old brave Samaritan did on social media and the schoolboy when interviewed 2 days after the attack reaffirmed the story. And yes, I choose to believe them versus the bus driver and AT who did not even have the courtesy of contacting the boy or the family. And yes, they know who the boy is because the police has all the details.

The other point is this - what is wrong with Simeon Brown as the local MP and Transport Minister, seeking advice on whether proper procedures were followed by AT staff during the attack. He was asking if protocols were followed and more to the point, are there protocols the arsehole busdriver should have followed in such a situation? If not, why?

And remember that we are talking here of AT - one of the most dysfunctional entities around.

Do you prefer the whole crime to be swept under the carpet as it would have been but for social media and Simeon Brown? The crime happened on Friday! Today is Wednesday - savvy?

And I am asking the question of the MSM - how are we supposed to be on the lookout for the attacker if they are not prepared to describe the attacker as a 40 year old+ overweight Maori woman? Is NZ really that woke now that we are not allowed and cannot even know the identity of the attacker so that others are on guard in case she goes on a bus again?

This attacker boarded the bus with a meter long metal rod and started hitting the floor of the bus while uttering racist slurs before she attacked. The arsehole bus driver did NOTHING. Fxxk him.

Balance
03-07-2024, 10:11 PM
And here's the union (Labour's mates) trying to deflect from the arsehole bus driver doing nothing before, during or after the attack.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-bus-attack-first-union-defends-driver-against-minister-of-transport-simeon-brown/X4AY6DWPVNCPZF462NHIF2ECHA/

Face of arsehole union general secretary :

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/v2/FH3DZACUDVAMPOPP5X3ZLU6A34.jpg?auth=1cd0a0f87d78e9 d9c3b8b9b70e23abfc0b808581d934008bef44b08ab157b668&width=1440&height=810&quality=70&smart=true

Bjauck
04-07-2024, 07:50 AM
Which part of the bus driver doing nothing before, during and after the attack do you not get?

The schoolboy did not tell the story - the 75 year old brave Samaritan did on social media and the schoolboy when interviewed 2 days after the attack reaffirmed the story. And yes, I choose to believe them versus the bus driver and AT who did not even have the courtesy of contacting the boy or the family. And yes, they know who the boy is because the police has all the details.

The other point is this - what is wrong with Simeon Brown as the local MP and Transport Minister, seeking advice on whether proper procedures were followed by AT staff during the attack. He was asking if protocols were followed and more to the point, are there protocols the arsehole busdriver should have followed in such a situation? If not, why?

And remember that we are talking here of AT - one of the most dysfunctional entities around.

Do you prefer the whole crime to be swept under the carpet as it would have been but for social media and Simeon Brown? The crime happened on Friday! Today is Wednesday - savvy?

And I am asking the question of the MSM - how are we supposed to be on the lookout for the attacker if they are not prepared to describe the attacker as a 40 year old+ overweight Maori woman? Is NZ really that woke now that we are not allowed and cannot even know the identity of the attacker so that others are on guard in case she goes on a bus again?

This attacker boarded the bus with a meter long metal rod and started hitting the floor of the bus while uttering racist slurs before she attacked. The arsehole bus driver did NOTHING. Fxxk him. So the age and ethnicity of all involved is known with certainty or just on the opinion of some witnesses? News media would need to be sure on details such as this, before potentially stirring hostility towards Māori middle aged women trying to board buses, Whereas you feel free to label and condemn a specific identifiable man (the driver) based on untested witness posts.

The news media have to contend with libel laws. It is why many reports are couched with terms like ‘allegedly”. Social media is built on opinions and imbalance, to a greater extent.

Balance
04-07-2024, 08:55 AM
So the age and ethnicity of all involved is known with certainty or just on the opinion of some witnesses? News media would need to be sure on details such as this, before potentially stirring hostility towards Māori middle aged women trying to board buses, Whereas you feel free to label and condemn a specific identifiable man (the driver) based on untested witness posts.

The news media have to contend with libel laws. It is why many reports are couched with terms like ‘allegedly”. Social media is built on opinions and imbalance, to a greater extent.

Don't come here with your reprehensible sanctimonious PC woke crap about the rights of the attacker. And of how Simeon Brown should not question what protocols are in place for incidents like these on a bus and whether the arsehole driver followed the protocols (if there are some).

The attacker was identified as an overweight 40+ Maori woman by the VICTIM (who had close contact with her as in being harmed and hurt) and the SAMARITAN (who likewise had close contact with her). And yes, most of us would trust their description and an alert should be issued about how the attacker looks like to warn other potential victims. Plus there's the CCTV on the bus as well as surrounding areas (eg. traffic lights and bus stations).

As for the news media being sued for libel, who is going to sue them? The attacker?

I see you have gone all quiet about the total lack of action and responsibility by the bus driver now - the arsehole did nothing (zilch) before, during and after the attack but you & the likes of Baa_Baa were verey quick to jump to the arsehole defense. Fxxk him and fxxk you too.

Victims' rights first - attacker can get stuffed.

Glad the overseas media provide some coverage to warn other bus users about what the attacker looks like :

https://www.indianweekender.co.nz/news/woman-yells-racial-slurs-attacks-teen-on-auckland-bus

"The woman, described as being in her 40s, with a large build and dressed in all black, exited the bus at the Williams Ave stop in Pakuranga. Passengers shouted at the driver not to open the door, but he did, allowing her to escape."

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/16-old-chinese-boy-beat-203136194.html

"The assailant, described as a Maori woman “more than 200 kilograms," hit Jason multiple times and stabbed him in the face, knocking out five of his teeth, on board the bus after having allegedly shouted "ch*nk" at him at Johns Lane stop."

https://web.archive.org/web/20240630082037/https:/mp.weixin.qq.com/s/quW6Gy2TnvNLXaa6iltzvQ

Balance
04-07-2024, 09:20 AM
It’s funny how some of the posters on here plus the union etc want to try to deflect.

WTAF.

There is something very wrong with society when a fat woman is beating up a child on a bus and the bus driver does absolutely nothing. Takes an old man to be the one to help him.

If I was that the driver I can tell you now that wahine would be missing a few more teeth. Ok, I am 6 foot 2 and weigh 220 pounds. But even if the driver was a small guy…I do not expect him to get into hand to hand combat with the attacker.

But I do expect him to do something to try get the boy out of harms way, and call the authorities etc etc.

That is just basic f*cken humanity. And the fact that there are people in this society who would even call that into question shocks me to my core.

The 75 year old Good Samaritan has my eternal thanks.

Precisely the point, mT - completely ignored by Baa_Baa, Bjauck and the arsehole union general secretary.

WTF was the bus driver doing telling the boy to get off the bus (after the attack) because he (the arsehole) had a route to follow and pick up other passengers?

And when Simeon Brown rightly demanded AT to front up on what protocols are in place for such an incident, and whether said protocols were followed by the bus driver - the deflections and excuses start flowing like pus from a lanced infected sore. :t_down: Surely that is what we expect a responsible minister and government to do!

Daytr
04-07-2024, 09:35 AM
As a matter of interest, you say fxxk the driver, but what would you suggest this lowly paid and probably feeble person should do? Is it in their job description to step in and put themselves in harms way, breaking up passenger fights, risking getting hurt or killed in doing so? I think not.

Or maybe you think there's something else the driver could/should have done, despite the poor kid getting beaten up by the unruly passenger. The bus driver is not a pub/nightclub bouncer, on face value I would suggest very few bus drivers would have the capability to intervene in any way, without putting themselves at grave personal physical risk.

I think the Minister is totally out of order here, criticising the bus driver, like WTF, it has nothing to do with the bus driver, his job is to drive a bus on a schedule, not to risk his own life interfering in his passengers nefarious behaviours. It's like blame shifting, focusing on the bus driver instead of the dirtbag that beat the crap out of another passenger. The bus driver isn't the criminal, or the victim.

Well said.
Apparently Balance is writing job descriptions for bus drivers now and just because he says so they should be security guards as well.

Unlike him to cast assertions and berate people left right and center. Everyone else can apparently %$#& off.

As for Balance stepping in if he was there, for some reason and I could be well off here, but my impression is that by the time he waddled over the attacker would be long gone & maybe he would be thankful for that as he might have been embarrassed. But I digress...🤣

Daytr
04-07-2024, 09:39 AM
The banks should be very worried if Bishop gets his way as well as a number of people who could get turfed out of their homes.

The Government isn't here to deliver shocks to the housing market, there are responsible ways of doing things, and chaotic ways to do things.

Where is all the infrastructure supposed to come from or be funded by for this massive expansion of development land?

https://www.thepost.co.nz/politics/350331318/chris-bishop-set-out-radical-land-use-and-planning-reforms/?utm_source=stuff_article&utm_medium=referral

Baa_Baa
04-07-2024, 10:01 AM
I see you have gone all quiet about the total lack of action and responsibility by the bus driver now - the arsehole did nothing (zilch) before, during and after the attack but you & the likes of Baa_Baa were verey quick to jump to the arsehole defense. Fxxk him and fxxk you too.


Thanks for the abuse, but I am not defending the attacker at all, it is a reprehensible act and hopefully gets punished for it.

What I did question was the expectation that the bus driver should have somehow put themselves in harms way, like they were obliged to. No employee of AT is obliged to risk harm to themselves.

Lets us know what precisely you think the bus driver should have done, that they did not, and nor did any of the other passengers except the 70 year old?

Balance
04-07-2024, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the abuse, but I am not defending the attacker at all, it is a reprehensible act and hopefully gets punished for it.

What I did question was the expectation that the bus driver should have somehow put themselves in harms way, like they were obliged to. No employee of AT is obliged to risk harm to themselves.

Lets us know what precisely you think the bus driver should have done, that they did not, and nor did any of the other passengers except the 70 year old?

As a minimum, the bus driver should have stopped the bus when the woman started hurling racist abuse and tapping the floor with the meter long metal bar.

He should have stopped the bus when the attack started.

He should have stopped the bus and rendered help after the attack.

He should have called the police and St Johns for the boy.

The arsehole did nothing. He left the traumatised injured school boy to his own devices. What a reprehensible and irresponsible arsehole, devoid of any basic human decency and consideration. Fxxk him and his kind.

How would you feel if the boy is your son or a family member?

Bjauck
04-07-2024, 10:56 AM
Don't come here with your reprehensible sanctimonious PC woke crap about the rights of the attacker. And of how Simeon Brown should not question what protocols are in place for incidents like these on a bus and whether the arsehole driver followed the protocols (if there are some).

The attacker was identified as an overweight 40+ Maori woman by the VICTIM (who had close contact with her as in being harmed and hurt) and the SAMARITAN (who likewise had close contact with her). And yes, most of us would trust their description and an alert should be issued about how the attacker looks like to warn other potential victims. Plus there's the CCTV on the bus as well as surrounding areas (eg. traffic lights and bus stations).

As for the news media being sued for libel, who is going to sue them? The attacker?

I see you have gone all quiet about the total lack of action and responsibility by the bus driver now - the arsehole did nothing (zilch) before, during and after the attack but you & the likes of Baa_Baa were verey quick to jump to the arsehole defense. Fxxk him and fxxk you too.

Victims' rights first - attacker can get stuffed.

Glad the overseas media provide some coverage to warn other bus users about what the attacker looks like :

https://www.indianweekender.co.nz/news/woman-yells-racial-slurs-attacks-teen-on-auckland-bus

"The woman, described as being in her 40s, with a large build and dressed in all black, exited the bus at the Williams Ave stop in Pakuranga. Passengers shouted at the driver not to open the door, but he did, allowing her to escape."

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/16-old-chinese-boy-beat-203136194.html

"The assailant, described as a Maori woman “more than 200 kilograms," hit Jason multiple times and stabbed him in the face, knocking out five of his teeth, on board the bus after having allegedly shouted "ch*nk" at him at Johns Lane stop."

https://web.archive.org/web/20240630082037/https:/mp.weixin.qq.com/s/quW6Gy2TnvNLXaa6iltzvQ

Are overseas media bound by NZ law?

Actually the possibility of libel arises with respect to comments with respect to the driver of the bus. His identity is known and derogatory comments towards him would be potentially libellous. I don’t known about his training, physical capabilities, scale of threat to other passengers, possibility that the assaulter could try to crash or commandeer the bus, etc.

I imagine keeping the door closed on the rampaging woman would not be without risk of further assaults on passengers and the driver. However the driver has control over the vehicle, not passengers.

Of course the incident sounds dreadful. It also raises questions on whether bus drivers are adequately trained, whether buses need to have a second staff member aboard for security. It also possibly raises the question over adequate mental health funding, and adequate policing methods such as more “Bobbies on the beat” patrolling at risk neighbourhoods and areas.

Balance
04-07-2024, 11:03 AM
Are overseas media bound by NZ law?

Actually the possibility of libel arises with respect to your comments with respect to the driver of the bus. His identity is known and youndirected derogatory comments towards him. I don’t known about his training, physical capabilities, scale of threat to other passengers, possibility that the assaulter could try to crash or commandeer the bus, etc.

I imagine keeping the door closed on the rampaging women would not be without risk of further assaults on passengers and the driver. However the driver has control over the vehicle, not passengers.

Of course the incident sounds dreadful. It also raises questions on whether bus drivers are adequately trained, whether buses need to have a second staff member aboard for security. It also possibly raises the question over adequate mental health funding, and adequate policing methods such as more “Bobbies on the beat” patrolling at risk neighbourhoods and areas.

As long as they have an office or representative in NZ, overseas media are bound by NZ libel law.

Based on what you wrote, the bus driver is already well within his rights to sue the school boy and the Samaritan for libel . So why have the arsehole driver and AT not taken such action?

You can make all the excuses you like, Bjauck but it is clear to anyone with eyes to read and with some human compassion and decency what kind of people the bus driver, AT, the Union and people like you & Baa_Baa really are.

Imagine defending a bus driver who behaved the way he did, and then attack Simeon Brown for demanding answers about protocols and whether protocols were followed by the bus driver. How reprehensible and repugnant can anyone be?

Bjauck
04-07-2024, 11:07 AM
As long as they have an office or representative in NZ, they are bound by NZ libel law.

Based on what you wrote, the bus driver is already well within his rights to sue the school boy and the Samaritan for libel . So why have the arsehole driver and AT not take such action?

You can make all the excuses you like, Bjauck but it is clear to anyone with eyes to read and with some human compassion and decency what kind of people the bus driver, AT, the Union and people like you & Baa_Baa really are. I imagine all available evidence is being collated and tested and provided to police rather than responding with knee-jerk reactions.

You are just quick to label and throw mud.

Balance
04-07-2024, 11:12 AM
BB, it’s not that people expect the bus driver to get the attacker in a full nelson. That would be nice, but can’t be expected.

The dismay comes from the allegation that the bus driver did absolutely nothing. Did not call the authorities, did not attempt to get the boy out of harms way, did not attempt to offer any kind of assistance to the bleeding child after the attack.

Nothing has come out from the driver or AT so far to say that these claims are untrue.

That is disgusting. And it is also baffling how some people seem to try to some how justify the behaviour by making out that those who feel revolted at the whole episode must have an expectation that the driver demonstrated some sort of proficiency in pugilism.

Not at all.

But I do expect the driver to be a human being and not just carry on driving when a child has been so badly assaulted.

Unfortunately, mT, NZ has arseholes like them - real arseholes with zero compassion and decency towards victims and in this case, a traumatised 16 year old kid who had his teeth knocked out and left to fend for himself after the attack.

Fxxk them all.

Daytr
04-07-2024, 11:14 AM
As a minimum, the bus driver should have stopped the bus when the woman started hurling racist abuse and tapping the floor with the meter long metal bar.

He should have stopped the bus when the attack started.

He should have stopped the bus and rendered help after the attack.

He should have called the police and St Johns for the boy.

The arsehole did nothing. He left the traumatised injured school boy to his own devices. What a reprehensible and irresponsible arsehole, devoid of any basic human decency and consideration. Fxxk him and his kind.

How would you feel if the boy is your son or a family member?

As Bjauck has alluded to, do you know any of this for a fact?

Balance
04-07-2024, 11:23 AM
I imagine all available evidence is being collated and tested and provided to police rather than responding with knee-jerk reactions.

You are just quick to label and throw mud.

You spend all your time making excuses.

Stand up or stand down - just don't stand in the way of decency and compassion for victims of crime.

Baa_Baa
04-07-2024, 11:26 AM
As a minimum, the bus driver should have stopped the bus when the woman started hurling racist abuse and tapping the floor with the meter long metal bar.

He should have stopped the bus when the attack started.

He should have stopped the bus and rendered help after the attack.

He should have called the police and St Johns for the boy.

The arsehole did nothing. He left the traumatised injured school boy to his own devices. What a reprehensible and irresponsible arsehole, devoid of any basic human decency and consideration. Fxxk him and his kind.

How would you feel if the boy is your son or a family member?

Yes fair enough, my only point was that the driver did not and should not put themselves in harms way. The fact that the driver apparently did nothing else as you suggest is worthy of your criticism and I agree with that.

Balance
04-07-2024, 11:39 AM
Yes fair enough, my only point was that the driver did not and should not put themselves in harms way. The fact that the driver apparently did nothing else as you suggest is worthy of your criticism and I agree with that.

That has been my point regarding the bus driver indeed.

And the other point being Simeon Brown demanding AT front up on whether there are protocols to be followed when such incidents occur and whether the protocols were followed. Totally reasonable but note how the union just about froth at the mouth about requiring to be accountable and responsible. Then, the arsehole union secretary brought in politics to deflect away from the bus driver doing nothing! Disgusting and reprehensible.

Daytr
04-07-2024, 12:39 PM
You spend all your time making excuses.

Stand up or stand down - just don't stand in the way of decency and compassion for victims of crime.

How is blaming a bus driver with little actual factual information showing compassion for anyone?

Balance & compassion = incompatible.

Daytr
04-07-2024, 01:59 PM
It’s funny how some of the posters on here plus the union etc want to try to deflect.

WTAF.

There is something very wrong with society when a fat woman is beating up a child on a bus and the bus driver does absolutely nothing. Takes an old man to be the one to help him.

If I was that the driver I can tell you now that wahine would be missing a few more teeth. Ok, I am 6 foot 2 and weigh 220 pounds. But even if the driver was a small guy…I do not expect him to get into hand to hand combat with the attacker.

But I do expect him to do something to try get the boy out of harms way, and call the authorities etc etc.

That is just basic f*cken humanity. And the fact that there are people in this society who would even call that into question shocks me to my core.

The 75 year old Good Samaritan has my eternal thanks.

Take a seat wee fella & let the big boys sort it out.

Balance
05-07-2024, 08:18 AM
Steady as she goes with the latest Roy Morgan poll.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9623-nz-national-voting-intention-june-2024

Greens’ polling continues to defy the shambolic state of the party. Good commentary on the state of Aotearoa where the hundreds of thousands of parasites, losers and beneficiaries bred by Ardern & co continue to screech, scream, scheme and put out their hands for ever more state handouts and freebies.

Daytr
05-07-2024, 08:40 AM
Steady as she goes with the latest Roy Morgan poll.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9623-nz-national-voting-intention-june-2024

Greens’ polling continues to defy the shambolic state of the party. Good commentary on the state of Aotearoa where the parasites, losers and beneficiaries bred by Ardern & co continue to put out their hands for ever more state handouts and freebies.

Coming from the Far Right, misogynistic extremist. Well as much as 45% of the population are parasites, losers & beneficiaries.

Balance
05-07-2024, 08:43 AM
Bad smell again?

Can’t smell it however!

Best thing we all did putting the bad smell on Ignore. :t_up::D

Daytr
05-07-2024, 10:53 AM
I must admit I do giggle when I see Dandelo still trying to set his psychic traps. From what I can tell, there are very few people now who have not put him on the ignore list.

Such a scmuck.

And don't we all feel better not having to read his endless trolling sh1te?

Believe me when I say, Dandelo will be suffering with nobody engaging him and providing him the raw emotions he so badly needs to feed.

On a separate note, I highly recommend the audiobooks for Stephen King's Dark Tower series. His Mangum Opus, and both Frank and George do a tremendous job bringing the tale to life. You'll even get to meet Dandelo again, do ya fine!

Gawd the imagination is strong in this one, a character in one of his fantasy books. 🤣🤣🤣

On ignore or not I will call out disgusting behaviour.
I don't care if the offensive poster sees it or not.

Bjauck
05-07-2024, 11:00 AM
Steady as she goes with the latest Roy Morgan poll.

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9623-nz-national-voting-intention-june-2024

Greens’ polling continues to defy the shambolic state of the party. Good commentary on the state of Aotearoa where the hundreds of thousands of parasites, losers and beneficiaries bred by Ardern & co continue to screech, scream, scheme and put out their hands for ever more state handouts and freebies.
Are you referring to the old men supporting National?

Panda-NZ-
05-07-2024, 11:05 AM
Are you referring to the old men supporting National?

Luxon supported and propped up by winnie said to those old men: Here's $2/wk.

And dave wants to cut their pensions.

Bjauck
05-07-2024, 11:09 AM
Luxon supported and propped up by winnie said to those old men: Here's $2/wk.

And dave wants to cut their pensions.
…and Bishop wants to devalue their real estate holdings too. Yet still more than double of the older men support The Coalition rather than Lab/Gr/MP. Although the polling probably took place before Bishop’s declarations.

Balance
05-07-2024, 11:10 AM
Are you referring to the old men supporting National?

Referring to arseholes like those who support the rights of criminals and who jump to defend bus drivers who do absolutely nothing to help when their passengers are assaulted.

Bjauck
05-07-2024, 11:19 AM
Referring to arseholes like those who support the rights of criminals and who jump to defend bus drivers who do absolutely nothing to help when their passengers are assaulted. Those who don’t want to defame and believe in needing to assess all the facts and tested evidence before condemning?

Daytr
05-07-2024, 11:45 AM
Those who don’t want to defame and believe in needing to assess all the facts and tested evidence before condemning?

Bjauck, anyone who's not a sycophant of Balance is an a-hole or a parasite, or a Jew hater etc.

He lives in a myopic world of hate.
Facts don't matter, he's already made a judgement and put a label on it, typically an ugly one.

It's ironic that he has no standards but he insists others do even if he is shooting from the hip with no foundation to his claims.

Anyway, good luck trying to convince him otherwise.

Balance
05-07-2024, 12:52 PM
Those who don’t want to defame and believe in needing to assess all the facts and tested evidence before condemning?

We choose to believe the victim and the 75 year old who jumped to contain the attacking woman rather than the union which jumped to the defense of and tried to deflect from the fact that the bus driver did nothing before, during and after the serious assault (which could have blinded the school kid).

We choose to believe the schoolkid who was dropped off at a bus-stop, traumatized after getting his teeth knocked out and who said the bus driver did nothing.

We choose to require the Police and media to issue a warning about the attacker being an overweight Maori woman in her forties to warn other potential victims.

You on the other hand is behaving exactly like all those who turned a blind eye to the complaints of sexual assaults and rapes of women, requiring them to go through humiliating and dehumanizing interrogations before they were believed.

davflaws
05-07-2024, 01:05 PM
You can make all the excuses you like, Bjauck but it is clear to anyone with eyes to read and with some human compassion and decency what kind of people the bus driver, AT, the Union and people like you & Baa_Baa really are.


Not like Balance imagines himself to be - a loving caring man whose warmth, sympathy, and humanity are widely renowned, acknowledged, and admired by all.

Not like Balance imagines himself to be - with a fellow feeling for those less fortunate than himself that is legendary.

Not like Balance imagines himself to be - with the milk of human kindness by the quart in every vein!

But in actuality, Balance is a simmering cauldron of bile, vitriol, and hate who never passes up an opportunity to beat down those he regards as losers, parasites, bludgers and vermin, or to seize what he regards as political advantage by heaping abuse and denigration on anyone who thinks differently.

Your imaginary paradise is calling.

Bjauck
05-07-2024, 03:03 PM
You on the other hand is behaving exactly like all those who turned a blind eye to the complaints of sexual assaults and rapes of women, requiring them to go through humiliating and dehumanizing interrogations before they were believed. That is a wild unconnected accusation. I advocate total awareness with eyes fully open - as opposed to tunnelled vision and making a snap judgment on a person (the bus driver in this case), without even hearing his testimony.

Anyway it is beyond time to stop this squabble. All the best to the young lad who was subjected to an horrendous ordeal, that no-one in NZ should have to suffer. I hope justice is done for him and his family.

Daytr
05-07-2024, 03:11 PM
That is a wild unconnected accusation. I advocate total awareness with eyes fully open - as opposed to tunnelled vision and making a snap judgment on a person (the bus driver in this case), without even hearing his testimony.

Anyway it is beyond time to stop this squabble. All the best to the young lad who was subjected to an horrendous ordeal, that no-one in NZ should have to suffer. I hope justice is done for him and his family.

Well said.

Balance
05-07-2024, 03:59 PM
Not like Balance imagines himself to be - a loving caring man whose warmth, sympathy, and humanity are widely renowned, acknowledged, and admired by all.

Not like Balance imagines himself to be - with a fellow feeling for those less fortunate than himself that is legendary.

Not like Balance imagines himself to be - with the milk of human kindness by the quart in every vein!

But in actuality, Balance is a simmering cauldron of bile, vitriol, and hate who never passes up an opportunity to beat down those he regards as losers, parasites, bludgers and vermin, or to seize what he regards as political advantage by heaping abuse and denigration on anyone who thinks differently.

Your imaginary paradise is calling.

Yawn.

Davflaws who asserts that a NZer has no culture or heritage unless they are Maori or adopt Maori culture.

Imagine what else lurks in that warped mind of his! Envy and ill-will toward those who do well & work hard are two character traits very much on show however!

Balance
05-07-2024, 04:06 PM
That is a wild unconnected accusation. I advocate total awareness with eyes fully open - as opposed to tunnelled vision and making a snap judgment on a person (the bus driver in this case), without even hearing his testimony.

Anyway it is beyond time to stop this squabble. All the best to the young lad who was subjected to an horrendous ordeal, that no-one in NZ should have to suffer. I hope justice is done for him and his family.

Anyone with their eyes fully open can see that the bus driver, his Union and AT stand accused and have no defence because the traumatised victim and the Samaritan have spoken the truth which the arsehole bus driver cannot refute.

The accusation of the bus driver doing nothing before, during and after the attack has been made openly from a school kid. And there is nothing but deafening silence, deflection and unwarranted belligerent attack on the need for a proper inquiry called by Simeon Brown by the Union. Notice there’s no denial or refutation by the Union of the accusation?

Only you with your sanctimonious and reprehensible mindset prefers to stand in the way of the victim and the public getting proper recognition of the harm done to the school kid and the potential danger out there from the attacker.

We will let it rest there.

Daytr
06-07-2024, 10:13 AM
It appears Luxon & Bishop aren't on the same page.
Whoops, more tea vicar?

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/128405/prime-minister-christopher-luxon-wants-downward-pressure-house-prices-not

Balance
06-07-2024, 03:57 PM
"Ever wondered who or what is constantly trying to block the new government’s policies? Why is it that announcements by ministers about the economy, educational changes, new health proposals, reducing the runaway numbers of public servants and combating juvenile crime, are quickly met with so-called leaked bits of advice about how the new ideas have been “tried before and don’t work”?

Leading to cocky assertions from the Labour Opposition that the media then highlight. Frequently, the minister is the last person allowed media space."

Well, read on ....

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/post/michael-bassett-dealing-with-enemies-of-this-ministry

nztx
06-07-2024, 05:14 PM
Jesus Christ. Look at these kunts in Canada!

Trying to make Netflix prop up their failing MSM!

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/7/4/streaming-giants-challenge-new-canadian-revenue-sharing-rules

wtaf!


What are we doing here with the Tax on Internet Companies on News content jumble that squawking & raving Willie (of failed Govt Broadcasting Disasters acclaim) was aiming to bring in ? ;)

Time that Nat/NZF/ACT booted this one back out the door where it came from onto the pile of hopeless Labour initiatives for the next bombfire ;)

Do we really want this sort of Media rescue job happening ?

Balance
07-07-2024, 05:41 PM
Maori separatism in perspective.

As dumb as it gets from a back to the Stone Age group of Maori minority - encouraged on by Ardern & the Maori cabal.

https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/07/richard-treadgold-maori-paradise-lost.html

Daytr
07-07-2024, 08:22 PM
Maori separatism in perspective.

As dumb as it gets from a back to the Stone Age group of Maori minority - encouraged on by Ardern & the Maori cabal.

https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2024/07/richard-treadgold-maori-paradise-lost.html

So the author makes fake claims about what Maori are saying and then goes on to tell us how they should be grateful for being colonized.

Makes spurious claims of previous civilizations that have been dismissed by any historian with credibility.

No mention of the diseases that the Europeans carried with them that decimated the Maori population, no mention of the land confiscations, no mention of the killings either.

Maori, like any race weren't perfect, they were warlike in some areas and hunted and enslaved etc, much like the Western world.

Some Maori, some, might be trying to rewrite history, but that's no excuse for this garbage.

I always thought you were a racist and promoting this sort of tripe just proves it.

Balance
08-07-2024, 12:43 PM
So typical of National - trying to maintain the status quo as much as possible rather than take the Bull by the horn and sort things out once and for all.

Thank goodness ACT & NZF are there to put steel into the Coslition’s spine.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/psa-criticises-coalition-governments-english-first-policy-says-mixed-messages-confusing/7M3JC7YQPNAKTBF6MJDEELTWJI/

Balance
08-07-2024, 03:07 PM
We choose to believe the victim and the 75 year old who jumped to contain the attacking woman rather than the union which jumped to the defense of and tried to deflect from the fact that the bus driver did nothing before, during and after the serious assault (which could have blinded the school kid).

We choose to believe the schoolkid who was dropped off at a bus-stop, traumatized after getting his teeth knocked out and who said the bus driver did nothing.

We choose to require the Police and media to issue a warning about the attacker being an overweight Maori woman in her forties to warn other potential victims.

You on the other hand is behaving exactly like all those who turned a blind eye to the complaints of sexual assaults and rapes of women, requiring them to go through humiliating and dehumanizing interrogations before they were believed.

The racist criminal who attacked the 16 year old school boy has been arrested for hate-motivated crime.

Anyone with common sense and common decency would have figured out that the school boy & the 75 year old Samaritan were speaking the truth. They had no reason to lie - unlike the Union, AT and the other arseholes who chose to not believe the victim.

But no, there are those who chose (like the arsehole Bjauck) to dispute the victim's account and who actually think it is okay for the bus driver to do nothing before, during and after the assault.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/auckland-bus-attack-39-year-old-woman-arrested-in-hate-motivated-crime/ZLRHXUSZRRECXBCCB3SKK5VCXY/

"Police have arrested a 39-year-old woman after the attack on a schoolboy with a metal rod on an Auckland bus.

Acting detective senior sergeant James Mapp said police located and arrested the woman this morning in relation to the assault on a bus in Pakuranga last month.

A 39-year-old woman will appear in Manukau District Court tomorrow charged with wounding with intent to wound.

Mapp said police will allege this was a hate-motivated crime."

Bjauck
08-07-2024, 05:44 PM
The racist criminal who attacked the 16 year old school boy has been arrested for hate-motivated crime.

Anyone with common sense and common decency would have figured out that the school boy & the 75 year old Samaritan were speaking the truth. They had no reason to lie - unlike the Union, AT and the other arseholes who chose to not believe the victim.

But no, there are those who chose (like the arsehole Bjauck) to dispute the victim's account and who actually think it is okay for the bus driver to do nothing before, during and after the assault.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/auckland-bus-attack-39-year-old-woman-arrested-in-hate-motivated-crime/ZLRHXUSZRRECXBCCB3SKK5VCXY/

"Police have arrested a 39-year-old woman after the attack on a schoolboy with a metal rod on an Auckland bus.

Acting detective senior sergeant James Mapp said police located and arrested the woman this morning in relation to the assault on a bus in Pakuranga last month.

A 39-year-old woman will appear in Manukau District Court tomorrow charged with wounding with intent to wound.

Mapp said police will allege this was a hate-motivated crime."

Arresting this vicious criminal, provided it is the right person, in no way changes my condemnation of knee jerk responses towards the driver, where the full details from the circumstances, the driver’s and other witnesses’ testimony have not been examined. You seemed only too keen to make a snap judgment on the driver’s response based on social media posts of witnesses.

Perhaps you are more accustomed to a system that is inquisitorial and does not incorporate natural justice?

Your repetitious vulgarity here, and towards other posters, is disgusting.

Balance
08-07-2024, 06:24 PM
Arresting this vicious criminal, provided it is the right person, in no way changes my condemnation of knee jerk responses towards the driver, where the full details from the circumstances, the driver’s and other witnesses’ testimony have not been examined. You seemed only too keen to make a snap judgment on the driver’s response based on social media posts of witnesses.

Perhaps you are more accustomed to a system that is inquisitorial and does not incorporate natural justice?

Your repetitious vulgarity here, and towards other posters, is disgusting.

You are not getting away so easily, Bjauck, from your sanctimonious and reprehensible mindset which preferred to stand in the way of the victim and the public getting proper recognition of the harm done to the school kid and the potential danger out there from the attacker, and the inaction of the arsehole busdriver.

Anyone with their eyes fully open can see that the bus driver, his Union and AT stand accused and have no defence because the traumatised victim and the Samaritan have spoken the truth which the arsehole bus driver cannot refute.

The accusation of the bus driver doing nothing before, during and after the attack has been made openly from a school kid. You tried your deflection BS by citing libel law but the school boy & the brave samaritan HAVE already MADE the accusation about the arsehole bus driver - so why has the arseholes bus driver & Union not refute so they can sue them?

The answer is simple - because they spoke the truth.

There is nothing but deafening silence, deflection and unwarranted belligerent attack on the need for a proper inquiry called by Simeon Brown by the Union. Notice there’s no denial or refutation by the Union of the accusation?

We choose to stand with the traumatised 16 year old school boy and the 75 year old brave Samaritan. You chose to stand with the arsehole bus driver. Your choice and decision.

Daytr
08-07-2024, 07:29 PM
You are not getting away so easily, Bjauck, from your sanctimonious and reprehensible mindset which preferred to stand in the way of the victim and the public getting proper recognition of the harm done to the school kid and the potential danger out there from the attacker, and the inaction of the arsehole busdriver.

Anyone with their eyes fully open can see that the bus driver, his Union and AT stand accused and have no defence because the traumatised victim and the Samaritan have spoken the truth which the arsehole bus driver cannot refute.

The accusation of the bus driver doing nothing before, during and after the attack has been made openly from a school kid. You tried your deflection BS by citing libel law but the school boy & the brave samaritan HAVE already MADE the accusation about the arsehole bus driver - so why not sue them?

The answer is simple - because they spoke the truth.

There is nothing but deafening silence, deflection and unwarranted belligerent attack on the need for a proper inquiry called by Simeon Brown by the Union. Notice there’s no denial or refutation by the Union of the accusation?

We choose to stand with the traumatised 16 year old school boy and the 75 year old brave Samaritan. You chose to stand with the arsehole bus driver. Your choice and decision.

Has the bus driver been charged with a crime?
Perhaps the bus driver was traumatized by the event as well.
The bus driver is employed to drive the bus, not to take on attackers with steel bars.
Easy to say he should have done more from the cheap seats.

Daytr
09-07-2024, 08:12 AM
Does anyone think Chris Bishop would live in a shoebox that he is prescribing for urban development? What is wrong with NZ?

We aren't Tokyo or even New York where space is a premium.

Lower construction costs, red tape and decommoditize housing to reduce risk for developers. Less risk, less margin required.

Bjauck
09-07-2024, 10:05 AM
Does anyone think Chris Bishop would live in a shoebox that he is prescribing for urban development? What is wrong with NZ?

We aren't Tokyo or even New York where space is a premium.

Lower construction costs, red tape and decommoditize housing to reduce risk for developers. Less risk, less margin required. Some of his plans may find resistance from some traditional supporters of the National Party.

I guess it is easier to loosen building requirements, including minimum unit size and balconies, than to tackle systemic issues. New subdivisions already are allowed to provide narrow streets, no service laneways, and inadequate provision for playgrounds and parks. So, coupled with Bishop's new proposals, the descent to ghetto peripheral developments seems more likely.

Balance
09-07-2024, 10:13 AM
No money for Pharmac under Ardern but $229m for the Light Rail proposal, feeding 200 consultants and advisors.

That’s the garbage decision making left behind for the new government to clean up.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/light-rail-heavy-bill-labours-229m-light-rail-bill-includes-more-than-200-consultants-and-companies/OH7WWPC3O5DY7FJ4DVEQXVO27A/
Paywalled

The biggest spend-up was with multinational engineering firms Arup and Aurecon, paid $30.9m and $33.6m respectively between 2022 and 2024 for detailed planning and design work on the $14.6 billion project.

The two firms accounted for about half of the $116.4m spent by the Auckland light rail programme, set up by then-Transport Minister Michael Wood with an independent board to progress light rail in Labour’s second term.

About 200 firms and consultants were used during this phase, and included contributions from Auckland Council ($540,000), and Auckland Transport ($2.6m). PwC pocketed $4m, $11.6m went on professional non-engineering services, and staff costs were $3m.

Daytr
09-07-2024, 08:44 PM
MistaTea banned.
Pleased to see there is some moderation on this site.

Unfortunately the one who led him astray is still free.

Balance
10-07-2024, 08:25 AM
Labour’s largess (courtesy of taxpayers) in full display - $487,000 severance & leave pay for 9 months’ work to former Film Commission CEO in 2022.

The kind of free spending with no constraint or accountability which the new government has to rein in and clean up.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/former-nz-film-commission-boss-david-strong-paid-over-half-a-million-dollars-leave-and-severance/UHRXJX5M6JGAFLNAI3CU3LTWLU/

Paywalled

The New Zealand Film Commission has paid former boss David Strong well over half a million dollars in leave and severance payments after just nine months in the role.

Strong’s paid leave period and his departure were precipitated by concerns related to the management of conflicts of interest arising from his role as head of the NZ Film Commission and his ongoing personal interest in a proposed television series, The Pilgrim.

A key job of the commission is to distribute public funding to film projects, and in February 2022 commission staff were told that The Pilgrim would be put forward for commission funding (ultimately, it was not).

The Herald understands Strong effectively went on paid leave from the chief executive job from the end of March until August 5, the date of his departure from the organisation in 2022.

His severance payment totalled $438,700, considerably more than his annual salary.

Balance
10-07-2024, 08:59 AM
Remember how Ginny Andersen proclaimed that NZers were feeling safer under Labour, shortly after she took over as Police Minister from Hapless Hipkins?

Well, here’s how safe NZers felt under Labour - highest anxiety rate about crime in 2023!

Thank goodness NZers voted out the pro-crim and pro-gang Labour government.


https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime-crackdown-what-the-data-says-about-rising-fear-but-steady-rates-the-front-page/SUP7KGJD4BGUBHSLNBEBTNEF7U/

The sixth New Zealand Crime and Victims Survey found 31.5% of New Zealanders experienced at least one crime incident in the year to October 2023.

This was the highest rate across the survey’s six years but the figure has remained steady, oscillating between 31.5% and 29% since 2018.

winner69
10-07-2024, 09:10 AM
Luxon seems to be having a good time in the States ….charming all in sundry

Balance
10-07-2024, 09:17 AM
Luxon seems to be having a good time in the States ….charming all in sundry

Well, he should be overseas more often then. Winston is doing a great job skewing the Opposition and giving them no room to move.

Balance
10-07-2024, 12:26 PM
Record numbers of NZers leaving NZ for greener pastures, especially Australia.

Seems clear that more and more young and hard working NZers and families are leaving the woke, racist & divided country Aotearoa which is rapidly heading towards 2nd world status. The parasites, losers and beneficiaries will continue to bleed NZ dry.

Meanwhile, the fat cats like Robertson and *itches like Ardern are enjoying life, securing themselves great jobs at the expense of NZers.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/net-migration-departing-kiwis-hit-new-record-australias-appeal-on-rise/QIM25GGSBJGV7EKHWWCS4D7F7I/

The number of Kiwi citizens leaving the country hit another new record in the year to May with more than 60,000 long-term departures, new Stats NZ data shows.

winner69
10-07-2024, 01:22 PM
Luke Malpass from Stuff doing a rave on Luxon -

The prime minister, a self-confessed “extrovert”, is in his element when meeting other leaders. He loves meeting new people, pressing the flesh — he is quite a tactile character — finding out what makes others tick. Luxon the assiduous networker is quite different from the man you see on TV.

Aaron
10-07-2024, 01:56 PM
deleted too negative

nztx
10-07-2024, 03:43 PM
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/council-battles-slash-damage-seeks-enforcement-at-waimata-valley/JGPYOBWAQBFH3AFBWTG2MRAJBI/

Gisborne District Council battles slash damage, seeks enforcement at Waimatā Valley



Shane - old son - some of your PGF's Billion trees in this Slash & run job or not ? ;)

What ? .. Don't like Pine Trees any more ?

Or a bit of that & Dont' like the Labour Pikers of the Lost Crisis Cause instead ?

(and don't tell anyone .. but Don't ever mention a troublesome G*dDarned Pine Tree again) ;)


https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350336269/gisborne-forestry-company-agrees-it-should-be-subject-enforcement-order

Gisborne forestry company agrees it should be subject to enforcement order



A problem or the Brothers fresh in from up north of the Equator don't want to deal with their "Slash & close eyes issue" ?

No problem ... nothing a "No Can Trade in this Country" Order won't fix

Still a problem - Court Orders putting all their NZ Assets on the block to fully fund all Damage
they do & will be up for should fix that - when we find a Judiciary who actually has some balls :)


Time to get tough with these Foreign Asswipes skating in, who think it's Okay to destroy the
Kiwi environment & break/ignore the Rules far from home & then expect to get away with it :)

How many more Storm/Flood/Cyclone events have to occur - before these Forestry Blockheads wake up and do their part on containing their waste & slash ?

You lot of imported Environmental Vandals might think that just because you get away with this sort of thing in Motherland CHINA - dont do it here and expect to walk away from your mess ;)

nztx
10-07-2024, 09:54 PM
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350337706/aratere-bridge-crew-union-lawyer-slams-nz-first-coffee-run-tweet

Aratere bridge crew union lawyer slams NZ First ‘coffee run’ tweet



Union lawyers representing the Aratere bridge crew have slammed NZ First for claiming the ferry crew may have switched on autopilot and gone for a coffee before the ship grounded.


What a sensitive bunch of fellows .. did the Ferry's pet Ship rat (required on every voyage to warn of the adverse happening & allegedly an honorary Union member) run up someone's leg & is refusing to come out now ? ;)



https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/interislanders-aratere-ferry-leaked-document-reveals-autopilot-button-pressed-by-mistake-crew-did-not-know-how-to-turn-it-off/EOAI7N6X7VBVRBPZLYHZ2VMJFQ/

Interislander’s Aratere ferry: Leaked document reveals autopilot button pressed by mistake, crew did not know how to turn it off


Sh!t o'Dear .. "Your Crew today are .. they have done 150,000 years service between them on the Islands run .. If the Auto Pilot bell goes off .. please quietly and quickly make your way to the side so as to not scare the dolphins .. and Jump overboard .. No one knows how to turn it off or where the ship will be parked, if it's still upright :)




Just two questions .. how much are the relevant captive F%&k/wt$ who don't know how AutoPilot works being paid to help provide this exquisite Cook Straight C*ck-up of a Miracle Service & experience again ? ;)


Any indication on when AI upgrades (to remove and over-ride the current inherent defects) will be installed ?


Footnote: No wonder what was going on confused Labour & the Greens so much ;)