More Green's Bull Shi!

[Joshuatree]

As expected the latest poll on stuff,a trend is developing.This govt could be gone before 3 years imo

[blackcap]

As expected the latest poll on stuff,a trend is developing.This govt could be gone before 3 years imo

Wrong, you are spreading crap. THe first 5 words says it all really:

"A poll by Labour’s pollster, Talbot Mills Research, for the firm’s corporate clients that has been obtained by The Post shows the coalition parties — National, ACT, and NZ First — lacking sufficient public support to form a Government, if an election were held today. The next election is in 2026."

[nztx]

As expected the latest poll on stuff,a trend is developing.This govt could be gone before 3 years imo


If that were the case - then just look at what is waiting to replace them :)

What an impressive line up of accidental proven incompetent talent ;)

Not that that will likely happen

Say 2 or 3 terms before Joe Public starts to get over & forget the 6 years of Ardern, Hipkins Robbo & the hapless Greens whipping up an unholy mess of things ;)

[nztx]

Wonder what tonight's poison was to inspire such blind faith in the Lab/Green gone & outed ? ;)

[777]

Maybe this thread should be renamed " More Green's Bull Shi! and comedy" to cover JT 's posts

[causecelebre]

Jack Tame: "Quote: Aggressive in the sense of being hostile, unprofessional with an element that was objectively threatening but not in the sense of physical violence - do you know who that describes?"

Chloe Swarbrick: "You tell me, Jack."

Jack: "Come on."

Swarbrick: "I am assuming you are talking about the behaviour of Julie Anne Genter"

Tame was actually referring to National MP Tim van de Molen, who was found in contempt and censured by Parliament last year after being accused of threatening a Labour MP in a select committee meeting.

He noted that National Party leader Christopher Luxon stripped the MP of his portfolios at the time and asked whether the Greens should be doing the same with Genter.

Swarbrick: “two completely different circumstances”


...err no she just described Van de Molen's actions as Genter's and National had handled his actions it appropriately…again, you can’t make this stuff up. All politicians are equal, only some are more equal than others, aye comrade? Apparently, public outcry is punishment enough - even if that outcry calls for stripping of her portfolio's. Regardless of the outcome of the inquiry, Genter will not loose her portfolio.

Swarbrick admits she is an Activist and not a politician who would not cross the aisle to garner bipartisan support to further her cause. She's not really interested in helping NZ or the environment. She's a petulant child who dummy spits if she doesn't get what she wants

[mistaTea]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/cost-of-investigation-into-suspended-green-mp-darleen-tana-reaches-43000/TEFCGAKWJBBFFKIMIAVZPVWUAY/

Apart from being on full pay, the investigation has so far cost $43K (and counting). Ouch.

[Joshuatree]

If that were the case - then just look at what is waiting to replace them :)

What an impressive line up of accidental proven incompetent talent ;)

Not that that will likely happen

Say 2 or 3 terms before Joe Public starts to get over & forget the 6 years of Ardern, Hipkins Robbo & the hapless Greens whipping up an unholy mess of things ;)

Trend is our friend and the people are responding.

You gotta accentuate the negative eliminate the positive ,screw the environment, eternally undo the wraparound totally,forget about the poverty,don't mess with Mr Entitled inbetween

[Balance]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/cost-of-investigation-into-suspended-green-mp-darleen-tana-reaches-43000/TEFCGAKWJBBFFKIMIAVZPVWUAY/

Apart from being on full pay, the investigation has so far cost $43K (and counting). Ouch.

Taxpayers out of pocket $75k so far then for the alleged migrant exploiting tax evading Green MP. Disgusting and immoral.

Then, there’s the costs of Golriz(for shoplifting) and James Shaw(hanging around like a bad smell after losing his government job after the election).

[Joshuatree]

to accuse the coalition Government of privileging lobbyists and the wealthy, at the expense of workers’ health and the environment.

[Balance]

Jack Tame: "Quote: Aggressive in the sense of being hostile, unprofessional with an element that was objectively threatening but not in the sense of physical violence - do you know who that describes?"

Chloe Swarbrick: "You tell me, Jack."

Jack: "Come on."

Swarbrick: "I am assuming you are talking about the behaviour of Julie Anne Genter"

Tame was actually referring to National MP Tim van de Molen, who was found in contempt and censured by Parliament last year after being accused of threatening a Labour MP in a select committee meeting.

He noted that National Party leader Christopher Luxon stripped the MP of his portfolios at the time and asked whether the Greens should be doing the same with Genter.

Swarbrick: “two completely different circumstances”


...err no she just described Van de Molen's actions as Genter's and National had handled his actions it appropriately…again, you can’t make this stuff up. All politicians are equal, only some are more equal than others, aye comrade? Apparently, public outcry is punishment enough - even if that outcry calls for stripping of her portfolio's. Regardless of the outcome of the inquiry, Genter will not loose her portfolio.

Swarbrick admits she is an Activist and not a politician who would not cross the aisle to garner bipartisan support to further her cause. She's not really interested in helping NZ or the environment. She's a petulant child who dummy spits if she doesn't get what she wants




Caught out exactly like the flakey propaganda spouting silly ‘champion an attention seeking cause per day’ goose she is.

[Getty]

Caught out exactly like the flakey propaganda spouting silly ‘champion an attention seeking cause per day’ goose she is.

And now she's even got a Cinders Ardern hairstyle to complete the act.

[mistaTea]

Taxpayers out of pocket $75k so far then for the alleged migrant exploiting tax evading Green MP. Disgusting and immoral.



Yeah, if NZers put this lot anywhere near govt in two years time then we deserve everything we get.

Not to worry, Australia happy to keep taking our best and brightest.

Then you just watch everyone start to squawk when the replacements (mostly Indians and Filipinos) start making up a big percentage of the population.

[Panda-NZ-]

Yeah, if NZers put this lot anywhere near govt in two years time then we deserve everything we get.

Not to worry, Australia happy to keep taking our best and brightest.

Then you just watch everyone start to squawk when the replacements (mostly Indians and Filipinos) start making up a big percentage of the population.

They're leaving under this government though.

Not that inspired by the turnaround plan (if one even exists).

[nztx]

They're leaving under this government though.

Not that inspired by the turnaround plan (if one even exists).


As a direct result of the largescale shambles the last one orchestrated ;)

Run out of supplies of smart beans already ? ;)

[777]

Another for Darleen Tana...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350282580/nz-politics-live-green-mp-darleen-tanas-election-ad-referred-electoral

[nztx]

Another for Darleen Tana...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350282580/nz-politics-live-green-mp-darleen-tanas-election-ad-referred-electoral


Looks like a whole bag fulla trouble for the Gwennies ;)


The stood-down MP is already involved in a separate investigation launched by the Green Party that has surpassed nine weeks and cost at least $43,000.

The catering & refreshments bill that high already ? Has the bill for the performers come in yet ?

All up the standard of the talent has all the hallmarks of being as rough and rude as .. ;)

Wonder what spin Tweetie Bird will come out with next to try to minimise collateral damage and Chloe away all of little Darlee's debri out of sight ? :)

[Bjauck]

Yeah, if NZers put this lot anywhere near govt in two years time then we deserve everything we get.

Not to worry, Australia happy to keep taking our best and brightest.

Then you just watch everyone start to squawk when the replacements (mostly Indians and Filipinos) start making up a big percentage of the population.
True. The biggest demographic change in NZ for decades has come without a referendum, but as a result of bipartisan incompetence.

[Daytr]

Jack Tame: "Quote: Aggressive in the sense of being hostile, unprofessional with an element that was objectively threatening but not in the sense of physical violence - do you know who that describes?"

Chloe Swarbrick: "You tell me, Jack."

Jack: "Come on."

Swarbrick: "I am assuming you are talking about the behaviour of Julie Anne Genter"

Tame was actually referring to National MP Tim van de Molen, who was found in contempt and censured by Parliament last year after being accused of threatening a Labour MP in a select committee meeting.

He noted that National Party leader Christopher Luxon stripped the MP of his portfolios at the time and asked whether the Greens should be doing the same with Genter.

Swarbrick: “two completely different circumstances”


...err no she just described Van de Molen's actions as Genter's and National had handled his actions it appropriately…again, you can’t make this stuff up. All politicians are equal, only some are more equal than others, aye comrade? Apparently, public outcry is punishment enough - even if that outcry calls for stripping of her portfolio's. Regardless of the outcome of the inquiry, Genter will not loose her portfolio.

Swarbrick admits she is an Activist and not a politician who would not cross the aisle to garner bipartisan support to further her cause. She's not really interested in helping NZ or the environment. She's a petulant child who dummy spits if she doesn't get what she wants




It was a very good interview by Tame.
But apparently he's a lefty glove puppet of the socialists...

[Daytr]

As expected the latest poll on stuff,a trend is developing.This govt could be gone before 3 years imo

Despite being against many of the coalitions more extreme policies, I don't think I could stomach having Labour back so soon. They were a disaster and there is no evidence that they have the caliber of people to form a Government. I'm not convinced about Hipkins either, I really don't know what he stands for.

The Coalition imo have / are making some good changes, cutting down on the huge amount of waste, I just whish they would tone it down a bit as their extremes have had far too much influence, particularly Shane Jones.

For a man who hasn't been elected in years he has far too much to say and far too full of his own self importance. He knows better than anyone else attitude.

Labour needs to do some serious rebuilding & bring in some people with real world experience.

[blackcap]

Marama does not come out that well and looks seriously deranged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0EUq4uI0TU

[causecelebre]

It was a very good interview by Tame.
But apparently he's a lefty glove puppet of the socialists...

To be honest, of all the "lefty" MSM political commentators I have found him relatively neutral

[Joshuatree]

We will see ehh.Two polls are showing us kiwis are concerned with the slash and burn destruction going on, to our environment and people's.Its a n eradication at speed,a country sort of genocide, at a fast track ruthless speed .The last Govt steered us through disasters ,this Govt is the next disaster.The next genuine poll will show the trend more strongly imo.

[mistaTea]

Marama does not come out that well and looks seriously deranged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0EUq4uI0TU

Foon is value for money though eh?

Apparantely we whites do still have a bit to contribute. lol.

And we should never judge a cover by the book!

bwahahahahaha

[Daytr]

To be honest, of all the "lefty" MSM political commentators I have found him relatively neutral

I think he is one of NZs best and for a relatively young guy has a wealth of experience and achieved a lot in a short time.

[blackcap]

Foon is value for money though eh?

Apparantely we whites do still have a bit to contribute. lol.

And we should never judge a cover by the book!

bwahahahahaha

Yeah Foon is a piece of work alright. LOL when I heard him speak.

Not sure how he got on the board of PGW....

[mistaTea]

Not sure how he got on the board of PGW....

One can only...speculate :D

[777]

Ricardo's turn.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350282580/nz-politics-live-green-mp-unleashes-f-bomb-parliament

[nztx]

Ricardo's turn.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350282580/nz-politics-live-green-mp-unleashes-f-bomb-parliament


Poor old deposed Grandiose former Housebuilder & failed Spinner of the long lost realm of Ardern - Twyford is stunned .. ?

Thought Ardern had already stunned hiim .. did Chippie attempt to revive him from a back cupboard, or is learning a new word tossed from once former Green ally the problem ? ;)

Obviously not much love being shown for Stunned & Flushed from the Green pews, but that's okay .. most of NZ probably doesn't think much of of it anyway & would likely be quite happy if he stayed stunned and shunted back into the cupboard for another 75 years :)

Ricky - try to keep up the practice stunning your former Labour comrades .. remember - practice makes perfect .. but do try to keep it in the shadows out of view where they can't squeal too much & kick up a fuss :)

[blackcap]

It would be a great outcome for everyone if that Ricardo was deported with immediate effect. Waste of time that individual.

[Balance]

It would be a great outcome for everyone if that Ricardo was deported with immediate effect. Waste of time that individual.

Eunuch in the Green court and a snivelling hypocrite who thinks he is above the average NZ to boot. Fxxk him, fxxk James Shaw and fxxk Davidson for the hypocrites and liars they are.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/02/green-mp-mp-ricardo-men-ndez-march-tried-to-jump-queue-as-kiwis-stuck-in-uk-desperately-seek-miq-spots.html

Green MP Ricardo Menéndez March tried to jump the queue for managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ) in New Zealand as Kiwis stuck in the UK desperately seek spots.

He left without securing a spot in isolation, at a time when the Government advice is not to travel - and MPs are being told to follow the same rules.

[Daytr]

Eunuch in the Green court and a snivelling hypocrite who thinks he is above the average NZ to boot. Fxxk him, fxxk James Shaw and fxxk Davidson for the hypocrites and liars they are.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/02/green-mp-mp-ricardo-men-ndez-march-tried-to-jump-queue-as-kiwis-stuck-in-uk-desperately-seek-miq-spots.html

Green MP Ricardo Menéndez March tried to jump the queue for managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ) in New Zealand as Kiwis stuck in the UK desperately seek spots.

He left without securing a spot in isolation, at a time when the Government advice is not to travel - and MPs are being told to follow the same rules.

Balance, it appears you want to fxxk a lot of people, basically anyone from the left it seems.
With such a strong bias despite your moniker, it pretty much erodes your credibility.

[Balance]

Balance, it appears you want to fxxk a lot of people, basically anyone from the left it seems.
With such a strong bias despite your moniker, it pretty much erodes your credibility.

Ok then for a MP to want to fxxk one of his compatriots? :p

[causecelebre]

On the Hansard records in Parliament going back to 2008, there had been no recorded mention of “f...”, except quoted by former Green MP Sue Bradford regarding an allegation of an incident between a food grant applicant and a Ministry of Social Development case manager.

[Daytr]

On the Hansard records in Parliament going back to 2008, there had been no recorded mention of “f...”, except quoted by former Green MP Sue Bradford regarding an allegation of an incident between a food grant applicant and a Ministry of Social Development case manager.

Sounds like Sue. 😅

[nztx]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/a/politics/350288404/no-complaints-speaker-brownlee-pursue-use-f-word-green-mp

No complaints but Speaker Brownlee to pursue use of f-word by Green MP


Oops .. Ricotardo in trouble over trying to stun the already well stunned & limp Twyford ;)

That went well - perhaps he should try stunning more llively & flapping Labour targets next time, if they havent already run away or been thrown overboard ;)

[Joshuatree]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/a/politics/350288404/no-complaints-speaker-brownlee-pursue-use-f-word-green-mp

No complaints but Speaker Brownlee to pursue use of f-word by Green MP


Oops .. Ricotardo in trouble over trying to stun the already well stunned & limp Twyford ;)

That went well - perhaps he should try stunning more llively & flapping Labour targets next time, if they havent already run away or been thrown overboard ;)

A vacuous ,empty life you must lead ,I feel for you.Maybe get a blower vac and blow three leaves down a 200 metre driveway to the road Wear a wide brimmed hat and watch for neighbours pretending to be texting but they aretaken photos.

[nztx]

A vacuous ,empty life you must lead ,I feel for you.Maybe get a blower vac and blow three leaves down a 200 metre driveway to the road Wear a wide brimmed hat and watch for neighbours pretending to be texting but they aretaken photos.


I'd watch trying to use a Vac to suck up the leaves for the next brew of poison & the leaf blower to try to dry them while under the influence of the last batch of poison & still hallucinating - if I were you .. mixing up use of the Vac & Blower might cause something rather more amusing ;)

Don't blame anyone here if it goes badly astray & something goes wrong in the process resulting in your sucking the wrong things up and blowing yourself away in a moment of lapsed concentration on here :)

Might be some curious smiles on explanations on why things went so wrong too ..

[nztx]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/judith-collins-spends-almost-150000-on-international-travel-in-first-quarter/NSS3RSIUSNDKPHNJKJLIOPGJYM/

Which MPs have the heftiest credit card and travel expenses in Q1, 2024?


Third-highest was Green Party list MP Darleen Tana, who had been suspended in mid-March amid investigations into her involvement in her husband’s E-bike business which had faced accusations of migrant exploitation.

She’d spent $28,570. A Green Party spokesman said Tana was an active MP for almost all of Q1 and her expenses also included accommodation costs from Q4 last year.

Tana also lived on Waiheke Island which increased her travel costs.



What did the taxpayer get for the Salary & Expenses she gobbled up ? ;)

[nztx]

What investigation ? ;)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/a/politics/350288963/darleen-tana-inquiry-greens-investigator-wont-talk-key-witness

Darleen Tana inquiry: Greens’ investigator won't talk to key witness



The investigation into suspended Green MP Darleen Tana’s conduct will conclude without one of the key witnesses being interviewed, Stuff can reveal.

Santiago latour Palma is one of two former workers to lodge Employment Relations Authority (ERA) claims against E-Cycles NZ, the e-bike business owned by Tana’s husband Christian Hoff-Nielsen.

It was a Stuff investigation reporting Palma’s allegations which led the Greens to suspend Tana in March and appoint lawyer Rachel Burt to conduct a review of what Tana knew, and when, about claims against her husband and his business.

Palma’s ERA claim says he’s owed more than $25,000 by E-Cycles, and that for most of that time he was working illegally on a tourist visa. He claims wages were often late and went unpaid, and he raised this twice with Tana, who refused to get involved, despite Tana asking him for IT support for her political campaign.


Looks like a half baked load of huey down the bottom of the garden ;)

[nztx]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/green-party-to-hold-press-conference-about-personal-and-sensitive-matter/IZ4HAOUZDNHTZPNBKVOR4D5FMY/

Marama Davidson, Green Party co-leader, reveals breast cancer diagnosis

Heck that's terrible

Does that mean Chloe gets to have more than her share of Green Light bulb moments ?

[Daytr]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/green-party-to-hold-press-conference-about-personal-and-sensitive-matter/IZ4HAOUZDNHTZPNBKVOR4D5FMY/

Marama Davidson, Green Party co-leader, reveals breast cancer diagnosis

Heck that's terrible

Does that mean Chloe gets to have more than her share of Green Light bulb moments ?

Really? There is nothing funny about this.
Show some judgment, before posting.

[causecelebre]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/green-party-to-hold-press-conference-about-personal-and-sensitive-matter/IZ4HAOUZDNHTZPNBKVOR4D5FMY/

Marama Davidson, Green Party co-leader, reveals breast cancer diagnosis

Heck that's terrible

Does that mean Chloe gets to have more than her share of Green Light bulb moments ?

I watched the live feed. Initially I was sympathetic to her condition. However, as the show went on it was clear the purpose was to politicise her plight and promote the Green ideology. I'm sure she is happy to be operated on by a white CIS male doctor and being bumped up the order while having a go at the at the public health systems lack of ability to provide the non-elite citizens due care. How about she only accept care from a doctor that got into medical school not on merit but affirmative action?!! She doesn't need to let us know the rest of the party are fighting for the planet and its people in her absence - though it does confirm my doubts they were actually doing that while she is present. My sympathy evaporated when she used her personal adversity for distinct political and idealogical advancement.

Chloe was clearly tying to manufacture a tear but her nodding head and own ambition kept that at bay i'm sure

[blackcap]

Really? There is nothing funny about this.
Show some judgment, before posting.

Yeah Marama milked it for all it was worth, pardon the pun. Like others, initially sympathy that quickly evaporated.

[Daytr]

Wow, you guys are just plain nasty.
She's the co-leader of the Greens, that's called doing her job, whether you like it or not.
And believe me I'm no fan either.

[nztx]

Wow, you guys are just plain nasty.
She's the co-leader of the Greens, that's called doing her job, whether you like it or not.
And believe me I'm no fan either.


been asleep under a rock for the last 20 years whenever the Greens popped out from under theirs ? ;)

[Daytr]

been asleep under a rock for the last 20 years whenever the Greens popped out from under theirs ? ;)

I am no fan of hers.
The Greens have been of little consequence for some time as haven't been in Government and even when they were they weren't in cabinet.
I really don't understand why you all spend so much time on them.
They had some players I respected, the likes of Gareth Huges for one and a few others over the years, but there have been few high calibre Green representatives in the last few years worth my attention.
But they whip you fellas into a frenzy and that's just the sort of publicity they want.

[Balance]

Been three months and still no release of the Darleen Tana Report while she stays on full pay and benefits courtesy of the taxpayers.

So where's the Report and where's the accountability by the Greens to NZers?

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/04/future-of-green-mp-darleen-tana-to-be-revealed-as-investigation-into-allegations-nears-end/_jcr_content/par/image.dynimg.full.q75.jpg/v1712609503200/v2-green%3Dmp-darleen-tana-facebook.jpg

[Balance]

As damning as it gets about Darleen Tana.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350314562/green-mp-darleen-tana-okd-migrant-fruit-picker-visa-job-husbands-bike-shop

[ynot]

As damning as it gets about Darleen Tana.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350314562/green-mp-darleen-tana-okd-migrant-fruit-picker-visa-job-husbands-bike-shop

Is no moral code green party policy ?

[whatsup]

Is no moral code green party policy ?

ynot, Dont you know " the left is a lie " applied to all lefty parties !

[nztx]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/a/nz-news/350319695/live-interislander-ferry-runs-aground-just-outside-picton-after-steering-failure

Live: Refloat plans for Interislander ferry Aratere put on hold until Saturday night



And the usual clueless spiel as can be expected being emitted by the backwards facing Greens

Of course Geenter has been out there on her backwards facing bicycle mounted on a pontoon trying to assist in pulling itback afloat ;)



Green transport spokesperson slams 'reckless' Government

"Nicola Willis's reckless decision to cancel the contract for new ferries without an alternative plan in place is disastrous for New Zealand. It's unbelievable really, and yet a hallmark of this coalition Government.

Darling - your backwards facing Green mob were bad news for New Zealand sending everything light years backwards and your best response is Greens were prepared to swallow out of control cost inflate after another inflated cost up with new ferries ;)

Nothing like advocating spending taxpayer money like there is no tomorrow, until your mob get unceremoniously kicked out of anywhere near the steering seats by the majority of voters sick & tired of the chapters of mindless Green BS they have seen ..

How are the Green plans going for a bicycle or wind powered ferry going ? Too hard or everyone asleep in the long grass after trying to get their confused heads around your little rants ? :)

No wonder your lot got grounded facing backwards and will likely stay that way for the next 150,000 years ;)

Joe Public just doesn't take kindly the sort of retarded screeching that has characterised the real cluelessness of the Green cause across past decades .. Even James of many Degrees has seen common sense and abandoned the grounded Green pontoon for brighter pastures .. perhaps the growing trail of the clueless & unfortunate Greens trying their luck & being outed for their various serious sins in public one after another was just too much for the poor boy to handle ;)


Aratere grounding & losing it's steering has a similarity to the Green's trajectory .. but at least the ferry can be refloated & rescued .. shame about the other, which continues to confirm firmly stuck holed on the rocks,
a few manning the wreck waving & screaming loudly, abusing & criticising potential rescuers... after having lost direction / steering ... with no signs of rescue or recovery expected anytime soon :)

[jonu]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/a/nz-news/350319695/live-interislander-ferry-runs-aground-just-outside-picton-after-steering-failure

Live: Refloat plans for Interislander ferry Aratere put on hold until Saturday night



And the usual clueless spiel as can be expected being emitted by the backwards facing Greens

Of course Geenter has been out there on her backwards facing bicycle mounted on a pontoon trying to assist in pulling itback afloat ;)




Darling - your backwards facing Green mob were bad news for New Zealand sending everything light years backwards and your best response is Greens were prepared to swallow out of control cost inflate after another inflated cost up with new ferries ;)

Nothing like advocating spending taxpayer money like there is no tomorrow, until your mob get unceremoniously kicked out of anywhere near the steering seats by the majority of voters sick & tired of the chapters of mindless Green BS they have seen ..

How are the Green plans going for a bicycle or wind powered ferry going ? Too hard or everyone asleep in the long grass after trying to get their confused heads around your little rants ? :)

No wonder your lot got grounded facing backwards and will likely stay that way for the next 150,000 years ;)

Joe Public just doesn't take kindly the sort of retarded screeching that has characterised the real cluelessness of the Green cause across past decades .. Even James of many Degrees has seen common sense and abandoned the grounded Green pontoon for brighter pastures .. perhaps the growing trail of clueless Gtreens being outed for their various serious sins committed in public one after another was too much for the poor boy to handle ? ;)


Aratere grounding & losing it's steering has a similarity to the Green's trajectory .. but at least the ferry can be refloated & rescued .. shame about the other, which continues to confirm firmly stuck holed on the rocks,
a few manning the wreck waving & screaming loudly, after having lost direction & steering with no signs of rescue or recovery expected anytime soon :)

I see Helen Clark had a pop too. Couldn't help herself.
The new ferry cancellation had zero input/impact on this grounding. Zilch. Shameless, bad faith politics from the pair of them.

I note "steering failure" has been the early identified cause. An assumption that means some sort of mechanical problem could well be misplaced.

[ynot]

I see Helen Clark had a pop too. Couldn't help herself.
The new ferry cancellation had zero input/impact on this grounding. Zilch. Shameless, bad faith politics from the pair of them.

I note "steering failure" has been the early identified cause. An assumption that means some sort of mechanical problem could well be misplaced.

Just couldn't help herself, never mind her mob couldn't run a cake stall. Don't let reality get in the way of sensationalism.

[davflaws]

Let's just all be very very thankful that the "steering failure" occurred near Picton with only a few people aboard.

A "steering failure" in Cook Strait with a full complement of passengers would have been potentially bad, even in fine weather, and a failure in the approaches to Tory Channel or Wellington Harbour would have been horrendous. Add some moderate (for Cook Strait) weather and you are looking at potentially huge loss of life.

[nztx]

Let's just all be very very thankful that the "steering failure" occurred near Picton with only a few people aboard.

A "steering failure" in Cook Strait with a full complement of passengers would have been potentially bad, even in fine weather, and a failure in the approaches to Tory Channel or Wellington Harbour would have been horrendous. Add some moderate (for Cook Strait) weather and you are looking at potentially huge loss of life.


Indeed .. that's for sure.

Just as well .. Julie-Anne's taxpayer sponsored pontoon craft mounted on drums with backwards facing bicycle power & a green flag sent out on a rescue mission would probably have never got more than 50 yards offshore on a calm day ;)

[Bjauck]

Simeon Brown had been recently concerned over maintenance by the SOE Kiwirail.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/06/simeon-brown-raised-concern-about-kiwirail-maintenance-just-days-before-aratere-ferry-grounded.html

NZ infrastructure is increasingly not fit for purpose - not fit either for the population growth both major parties have curated. Who will have the gumption to curate the megabucks needed in so many areas. Either public taxpayer money or a melange of private-public partnerships are needed. However there needs to be a concerted coordinated plan.

Labour had its social priorities but it is time to knuckle down now and sort things out. However it will take money from somewhere. On paper Luxon, with Air NZ on his resume, should be a good choice to take the bull by the horns.

[whatsup]

I see Helen Clark had a pop too. Couldn't help herself.
The new ferry cancellation had zero input/impact on this grounding. Zilch. Shameless, bad faith politics from the pair of them.

I note "steering failure" has been the early identified cause. An assumption that means some sort of mechanical problem could well be misplaced.

IMHO dont you mean Helen Davis, she is/was married to Peter Davis !

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No wonder your lot got grounded facing backwards and will likely stay that way for the next 150,000 years ;)

Joe Public just doesn't take kindly the sort of retarded screeching that has characterised the real cluelessness of the Green cause across past decades .. :)

I would like to think they are true statements, but for many the Greens are the party of resort at the Last Chance Saloon when they don't like the cut of Labour or Nationals jib.

One night their luck may come in.

[Baa_Baa]

I would like to think they are true statements, but for many the Greens are the party of resort at the Last Chance Saloon when they don't like the cut of Labour or Nationals jib.

One night their luck may come in.

I think it's more simple than that, the Green's have lost their way, they have lost their focus and been caught up in general politics rather than fighting for their fundamental cause.

In opposition which they should be most familiar with based on their history, they should know how to pursue their base agenda. But after 6 years of a coalition in power they seem to now be confused, having lost power, that they have no influence whatsoever anymore, and becoming irrelevant politically.

Harping on about things that have little to do with their manifesto, while simultaneously fighting against numerous internal conflagrations melting their party down into insignificance, the Green's are consigning themselves to irrelevance.

It must grate on the Green faithful. No one wants their vote to be wasted.

[iceman]

Let's just all be very very thankful that the "steering failure" occurred near Picton with only a few people aboard.

A "steering failure" in Cook Strait with a full complement of passengers would have been potentially bad, even in fine weather, and a failure in the approaches to Tory Channel or Wellington Harbour would have been horrendous. Add some moderate (for Cook Strait) weather and you are looking at potentially huge loss of life.

That is a risk you run on any vessel at any time. That is why good maintenance is of paramount importance to reduce such risks. Looking at Interislander's recent history, one has to question their ability to properly maintain their vessels.

[Bjauck]

IMHO dont you mean Helen Davis, she is/was married to Peter Davis ! Wonen are no longer the property of men. The patriarchy is crumbling?

[ynot]

Wonen are no longer the property of men. The patriarchy is crumbling?

So are you saying if she used his name he would own her ?

[Balance]

So are you saying if she used his name he would own her ?

Clearly that is what Bjauck meant - his mind still stuck in the dark ages.

[Bjauck]

So are you saying if she used his name he would own her ? No longer for husbands. I know women retain the right of surname choice. It seems Whatsup thinks or wishes otherwise.

[Bjauck]

Clearly that is what Bjauck meant - his mind still stuck in the dark ages. Just aware of history and the archaic attitudes held by some.

BTW I can speak for myself. I am not your “*itch”.

[ynot]

No longer for husbands. I know women retain the right of surname choice. It seems Whatsup thinks or wishes otherwise.

Keep on digging Bjauck. Any woman retaining her maiden name believing it will protect her from a tyrant is dreaming.

[Bjauck]

Keep on digging Bjauck. Any woman retaining her maiden name believing it will protect her from a tyrant is dreaming. Too true. Family abuse is still only too common. At least there are legal avenues available.

[Balance]

Just aware of history and the archaic attitudes held by some.

BTW I can speak for myself. I am not your “*itch”.

Your history sucks as much as your archaic mindset.

“Coverture” is the word you need to familiarise yourself first before you make a fool of yourself.

https://www.brides.com/why-do-women-take-husband-last-name-5116974

[Bjauck]

Your history sucks as much as your archaic mindset.

“Coverture” is the word you need to familiarise yourself first before you make a fool of yourself.

https://www.brides.com/why-do-women-take-husband-last-name-5116974
Google is not your friend.

Under English law (on which NZ law is based) until the late C19th, married women lost their separate legal rights. Decisions were made by the husband.

Clark made her own decision on her surname. Some seem to object to this.

[Balance]

Google is not your friend.

Under English law (on which NZ law is based) until the late C19th, married women lost their separate legal rights. Decisions were made by the husband.

Clark made her own decision on her surname. Some seem to object to this.

Who is objecting to it? Making an observation is not making an objection.

Coverture was the basis of wives taking on their husbands’ surnames - times change and traditions can change as well but who are we to cast the first stone on those who choose to follow or not follow traditions?

[Daytr]

Why is a woman's surname even up for discussion? Incredible some of the attitudes shown on here.

As for the preoccupation with the Greens, it's quite incredible what you all fixate on.

Perhaps the fixation on here is due to the Greens voter base growing, despite their disastrous last six months.

I don't care for the Greens, but I do care for the environment, which is the main reason I swung away from National 10 or so years ago. The current coalition seems to be even worse in this regard with complete disregard for the environment and little evidence that they believe in humanity's impact on Climate Change at all, ... like many of you I suppose.

[Bjauck]

Who is objecting to it? Making an observation is not making an objection.

Coverture was the basis of wives taking on their husbands’ surnames - times change and traditions can change as well but who are we to cast the first stone on those who choose to follow or not follow traditions?
I was mislead by the exclamation mark when the observation was made by the poster ��

[nztx]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/interislander-ferry-to-dock-at-picton-harbour-later-today/TDUGYZJ4QBFZRCVLYSCFVENKEE/

Interislander ferry Aratere to dock at Picton Harbour this afternoon after grounding

Off the rocks, still floating & water tight ... which is more than can be said for Labour & the Green Cling-on's
continuing their new trajectories of frequently getting dunked and having 'dropped in it' kamikaze moments ;)

[mistaTea]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/interislander-ferry-to-dock-at-picton-harbour-later-today/TDUGYZJ4QBFZRCVLYSCFVENKEE/

Interislander ferry Aratere to dock at Picton Harbour this afternoon after grounding

Off the rocks, still floating & water tight ... which is more than can be said for Labour & the Green Cling-on's
continuing their new trajectories of frequently getting dunked and having 'dropped in it' kamikaze moments ;)

The skill shortage in NZ is worse than I feared if the shower of sh1t we have left are forgetting to screw pylons back on before they know off!

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The skill shortage in NZ is worse than I feared if the shower of sh1t w
e have left are forgetting to screw pylons back on before they know off!

Yeah, like the contract clowns who were working outside my home.
I left a sign asking them to turf my lawn.

They took that to mean throw it out, and fill it in with shingle!

[mistaTea]

We find out what sort of a slap on the wrist the thieving b1tch gets later today.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/520362/former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman-to-be-sentenced-for-shoplifting

[ynot]

We find out what sort of a slap on the wrist the thieving b1tch gets later today.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/520362/former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman-to-be-sentenced-for-shoplifting


Another party list gem. Gotta love MMP.

[Balance]

We find out what sort of a slap on the wrist the thieving b1tch gets later today.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/520362/former-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman-to-be-sentenced-for-shoplifting

Big slap on the wrist with the proverbial suitably well soaked green coloured bus ticket?

Poor thing has already suffered enough and is unlikely to offend again blah blah blah ….

And politicians who spout platitudes about human rights, the downtrodden etc while racking in salaries & benefits to the tune of over 175k a year should not be treated like common thieves - they deserve special consideration and reduced responsibility & accountability. After all, they have done so much good & showed so much aroha for their fellow human beings. All BS of course but that’s what the justice system is about.

[777]

Providing they can arrange nearby parking,I imagine she will get a lot of supporters from the Party.

[Balance]

Providing they can arrange nearby parking,I imagine she will get a lot of supporters from the Party.

Was not the case when she last appeared in court.

The Greens have cast her aside, I suspect so that the mud does not stick to them.

[causecelebre]

Providing they can arrange nearby parking,I imagine she will get a lot of supporters from the Party.

Like in wellington when the Greens had removed all parking and replaced with bike lanes, wanted to have a conference and asked a local retailer (who had to move up the road due to lost customer parking) to use their car parks so Green Part MP's had somewhere to park their cars. You can't make this sh!t up! This from the party that has the worst air travel record in parliament.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/urmila-bhana-independent-business-and-residential-group-chairwoman-on-the-greens-getting-caught-asking-to-use-private-carparks-after-their-cycleway-impacted-parking/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0av1OtdEew&ab_channel=ThePlatformNZ

[Balance]

Like in wellington when the Greens had removed all parking and replaced with bike lanes, wanted to have a conference and asked a local retailer (who had to move up the road due to lost customer parking) to use their car parks so Green Part MP's had somewhere to park their cars. You can't make this sh!t up! This from the party that has the worst air travel record in parliament.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/audio/urmila-bhana-independent-business-and-residential-group-chairwoman-on-the-greens-getting-caught-asking-to-use-private-carparks-after-their-cycleway-impacted-parking/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0av1OtdEew&ab_channel=ThePlatformNZ

Freaking *itches & hypocrites - the whole lot of them.

[Balance]

Was not the case when she last appeared in court.

The Greens have cast her aside, I suspect so that the mud does not stick to them.

Yup - no Green contingent to be seen to support Golriz. What happened to her Whanau Marama and Chloe, who described her as ‘family’?

Meanwhile, here’s the update :

The sentencing hearing has now begun with defence lawyer Annabel Cresswell telling the court a mental health report about Ghahraman was the crux of her submissions today.

It found a “clear diagnosis of complex PTSD” with two key contributing factors: her early life in war-torn Iran and the “public vitriol, threats and abuse” she received while in Parliament.

Cresswell said the “threats of rape and death were constant and ongoing and credible”, to the point where her security detail was similar to that of the Prime Minister.

She described “loss-reactive shoplifting” in which otherwise law-abiding individuals steal as part of a mental health crisis.

The fact she had so much to lose showed a mental health crisis, Cresswell said.

“This offending was extraordinarily out of character,” she explained. “She didn’t need the items that were taken.”

[Bjauck]

The misogyny and extra abuse female MPs, from both left and right, experience must take a mental toll. That is not to excuse shoplifting which is a blight that NZ retailers experience and which we all pay for through higher prices. Unfortunately the abusers and misogynists are at large..

[mistaTea]

Yup - no Green contingent to be seen to support Golriz. What happened to her Whanau Marama and Chloe, who described her as ‘family’?

Meanwhile, here’s the update :

The sentencing hearing has now begun with defence lawyer Annabel Cresswell telling the court a mental health report about Ghahraman was the crux of her submissions today.

It found a “clear diagnosis of complex PTSD” with two key contributing factors: her early life in war-torn Iran and the “public vitriol, threats and abuse” she received while in Parliament.

Cresswell said the “threats of rape and death were constant and ongoing and credible”, to the point where her security detail was similar to that of the Prime Minister.

She described “loss-reactive shoplifting” in which otherwise law-abiding individuals steal as part of a mental health crisis.

The fact she had so much to lose showed a mental health crisis, Cresswell said.

“This offending was extraordinarily out of character,” she explained. “She didn’t need the items that were taken.”

Yes, only defence she has is to convince the court she is nuts.

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Yes, an organic one.

[mistaTea]

Yes, an organic one.

She may be cray cray but I’d still smack that ass.

[nztx]

Yes, only defence she has is to convince the court she is nuts.


Can't be quite nuts enough yet, if she's still licenced to be on the bar :)

Nothing like still thinking there might be a bit of mileage left in trying to BS the beak ..

Associating with the calibre of crazy Green trash still onboard might be enough to turn anyone nuts..

The wayward chassis still looks to be in reasonable nick .. no tangle ups with stray motorbikes on crossings, or fights with wayward foreign import workers on a mission to cause mayhem, unlike other little screeching darlings hailing from the hairy legs brigade :)

[nztx]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-mp-darleen-tana-referred-to-police-verve-magazine-advert-allegedly-left-off-promoter-statement/AHTQYEDIVZE2FODDRMZBQ3Q4XQ/

Green MP Darleen Tana referred to police: Verve Magazine advert allegedly left off promoter statement




Suspended Green MP Darleen Tana has been referred to the police due to an alleged issue with a paid article in Verve Magazine.

The Green Party said it had referred the issue to the Electoral Commission in May. It followed revelations in May that Tana was linked to alleged migrant exploitation at her husband’s business. An independent investigation into the latter issue was ongoing.

Today, the Electoral Commission said it had referred Tana and Verve Magazine to police over an alleged failure to include a promoter statement in an election advertisement published last May.

The commission refused to give further comment as the matter was with police.

A week from Green H3ll for the Greens with their ex-Talent hastily chucked over the side now having their moments in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons ;)

Everyone else in the cosy huddle inside Green pumpkin must have gone into hiding out of sight ;)

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She may be cray cray but I’d still smack that ass.

She would steal your heart... and anything else that's not nailed down.

[Balance]

She would steal your heart... and anything else that's not nailed down.

Ah … but how would she look without the layers of make-up, especially around those seemingly alluring eyes?

mT may be in for a surprise?

[mistaTea]

Ah … but how would she look without the layers of make-up, especially around those seemingly alluring eyes?

mT may be in for a surprise?

Mmmmm, she had me at Purrrrrrrsian.

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Ah … but how would she look without the layers of make-up, especially around those seemingly alluring eyes?

mT may be in for a surprise? He may find things close to the bone.

[Daytr]

Give it a rest.
Its amazing what people will say when they are hidden behind a handle.
I would imagine if there are woman that view these threads, they wouldn't be interested in engaging due to the caveman behavior by some on here.
Grow up!

[Bjauck]

Give it a rest.
Its amazing what people will say when they are hidden behind a handle.
I would imagine if there are woman that view these threads, they wouldn't be interested in engaging due to the caveman behavior by some on here.
Grow up! The shoplifting case has been an excuse, not that some needed this excuse, for sexual objectification. I Imagine it is just a glimpse as to what female MPs have to contend with in day-to-day life.

[Balance]

The shoplifting case has been an excuse, not that some needed this excuse, for sexual objectification. I Imagine it is just a glimpse as to what female MPs have to contend with in day-to-day life.

Yawn.

And what have the Green female MPs been up to?

Theft, migrant exploitation, bullying, championing massacre of innocents, tax evasion, vocalising racist and sexist behaviour … shall we continue?

Oh yes, indulging in hyper hypocrisy, falsehoods and lies too.

[Daytr]

Yawn.

And what have the Green female MPs been up to?

Theft, migrant exploitation, bullying, championing massacre of innocents, tax evasion, vocalising racist and sexist behaviour … shall we continue?

Oh yes, indulging in falsehoods and lies too.

No surprise that you don't recognize how appalling yours & others posts are on here.
How about posters stick to topic rather than sexualizing the subjects or resorting to misogynistic labeling and name calling.

It's also not surprising that misogynists don't recognize their own behavior. Racists are similar, not me, I've got brown friends.... 🙄

[whatsup]

Yawn.

And what have the Green female MPs been up to?

Theft, migrant exploitation, bullying, championing massacre of innocents, tax evasion, vocalising racist and sexist behaviour … shall we continue?

Oh yes, indulging in hyper hypocrisy, falsehoods and lies too.

But Bal, always remember, "the left is a lie " Greens, Labour etc.

[mistaTea]

Yawn.

And what have the Green female MPs been up to?

Theft, migrant exploitation, bullying, championing massacre of innocents, tax evasion, vocalising racist and sexist behaviour … shall we continue?

Oh yes, indulging in hyper hypocrisy, falsehoods and lies too.

Remember not to feed Dandelo. Outrage is its favourite meal…

[Daytr]

But Bal, always remember, "the left is a lie " Greens, Labour etc.

Here's a couple of lies for you.
We are going to fund these new cancer drugs to save these people's lives & give them hope. Ahhh 2nd thoughts we can't afford it now as we are giving tax breaks, vulnerable people's hopes destroyed. Ahhh on 3rd thoughts there's been such a backlash about us breaking our campaign promise, we will fund the drugs.

Seymour, we are going to scrap the school lunch program, gets into Government & sees that there is a real problem and children will go hungry, sees the political backlash, oh on 2nd thoughts the program will stay as is for now.

I could go on, there's more. And how long have they been in power for? Watch out for a backflip on the Cook Strait ferries any day.

[Daytr]

Remember not to feed Dandelo. Outrage is its favourite meal…

Speaking of yawning.
Repetitive nonsense that avoids responsibility for one's actions.
It's not outrage, it's disdain.

[Bjauck]

Yawn.

And what have the Green female MPs been up to?

Theft, migrant exploitation, bullying, championing massacre of innocents, tax evasion, vocalising racist and sexist behaviour … shall we continue?

Oh yes, indulging in hyper hypocrisy, falsehoods and lies too. With all that activity and behaviour from female Green MPs, why waste time on sexual objectification?

[Balance]

With all that activity and behaviour from female Green MPs, why waste time on sexual objectification?

Precisely because Golriz plays the innocent looking heavily made-up dolly bird in the company of some of the nastiest female MPs you could ever get in NZ politics.

Don't put on any kind of front (innocent, pretty or otherwise) with those of us who see through the charade.

Exactly like Clueless Cindy - took a few years for the majority of NZers to see through the Ardern BS and charade - but swa through they did and turfed the *itch out.

[Balance]

The smallest wet bus ticket (colored green) being actively sought by court staff for the sentencing on Thursday.

And you can certainly count upon the defense lawyer and Golriz to exaggerate wildly about how badly affected she was by all kinds of trauma and drama - true or not.

Knowing her & the Greens' propensities for lies and falsehoods, no prizes for guessing how much spin and falsehoods are in the defense case.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/06/the_case_for_and_against_letting_golriz_off.html

"Ghahraman grew up in Mashad, which is around 1,600 kms from the border with Iraq. That is like the distance between Auckland and Invercargill."

" ...... Cresswell said the “threats of rape and death were constant and ongoing and credible”, to the point where her security detail was similar to that of the Prime Minister.

It was not similar to the PM. In no way does that mean the threats were not vile and disturbing. The PM has 24/7 armed police officers. Ghahraman had a parliamentary security officer escort her on and off the campus."


Crown Solicitor Alysha McClintock said the offending had the hallmarks of pre-meditation.

“This was a spree of offending. It’s not a one-off event. It’s not a ‘moment of madness’-type case.”

There might be another explanation for the offending other than a mental health breakdown, McClintock said: “Simply that she wanted the items that she took.

”On its face, that explanation, given the [pre-meditated] nature of the conduct, appears the more likely of the two,” she said. …

The link between Ghahraman’s mental health and her criminal conduct was not as strong as the defence made it out to be, the prosecutor argued, noting a mental health assessor found there was “a possible link”.

”The possibility of that is no more than that – a possibility.”

[whatsup]

The smallest wet bus ticket (colored green) being actively sought by court staff for the sentencing on Thursday.

And you can certainly count upon the defense lawyer and Golriz to exaggerate wildly about how badly affected she was by all kinds of trauma and drama - true or not.

Knowing her & the Greens' propensities for lies and falsehoods, no prizes for guessing how much spin and falsehoods are in the defense case.

https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/06/the_case_for_and_against_letting_golriz_off.html

"Ghahraman grew up in Mashad, which is around 1,600 kms from the border with Iraq. That is like the distance between Auckland and Invercargill."

" ...... Cresswell said the “threats of rape and death were constant and ongoing and credible”, to the point where her security detail was similar to that of the Prime Minister.

It was not similar to the PM. In no way does that mean the threats were not vile and disturbing. The PM has 24/7 armed police officers. Ghahraman had a parliamentary security officer escort her on and off the campus."


Crown Solicitor Alysha McClintock said the offending had the hallmarks of pre-meditation.

“This was a spree of offending. It’s not a one-off event. It’s not a ‘moment of madness’-type case.”

There might be another explanation for the offending other than a mental health breakdown, McClintock said: “Simply that she wanted the items that she took.

”On its face, that explanation, given the [pre-meditated] nature of the conduct, appears the more likely of the two,” she said. …

The link between Ghahraman’s mental health and her criminal conduct was not as strong as the defence made it out to be, the prosecutor argued, noting a mental health assessor found there was “a possible link”.

”The possibility of that is no more than that – a possibility.”

If she really wanted cloths that befitted her political party and back ground why didnt she steal some from the Warehouse instead of high end Ponsonby Rd clothing shops !!

Boxing above her weight IMHO.

[mistaTea]

If she really wanted cloths that befitted her political party and back ground why didnt she steal some from the Warehouse instead of high end Ponsonby Rd clothing shops !!

Boxing above her weight IMHO.

Yes exactly…amazing that she was only afflicted by her so-called trauma induced kleptomania when she was in high end retail stores.

[Bjauck]

Precisely because Golriz plays the innocent looking heavily made-up dolly bird in the company of some of the nastiest female MPs you could ever get in NZ politics.

Don't put on any kind of front (innocent, pretty or otherwise) with those of us who see through the charade.

Exactly like Clueless Cindy - took a few years for the majority of NZers to see through the Ardern BS and charade - but swa through they did and turfed the *itch out.
As previously discussed, an awareness of history is needed to understand archaic attitudes such as these.

[Balance]

As previously discussed, an awareness of history is needed to understand archaic attitudes such as these.

Yawn.

Call a spade a spade and Golriz ain’t no dolly bird.

[Balance]

Yes exactly…amazing that she was only afflicted by her so-called trauma induced kleptomania when she was in high end retail stores.

And note how despite the supposedly heavy security detail required (like that of Clueless Cindy) because of grave & pressing safety concerns, she was able to freely frequent high end boutiques with carefree abundance to steal from them!

To be expected from the Green MPs - thieves, human exploiters, tax evaders, racist & sexist vocalisers, defenders of massacres of innocents, falsifiers of credentials, hypocrites and above all, BS artists.

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Could someone please start a Give a Little page to help Goldritz with this malaise that has beset her?

Oh, hang on, that won't be necessary.

Darleen Tana is on full pay for going nothing, funded by the taxpayers.

Surely she will pass some on to her Green sister?

[nztx]

Could someone please start a Give a Little page to help Goldritz with this malaise that has beset her?

Oh, hang on, that won't be necessary.

Darleen Tana is on full pay for going nothing, funded by the taxpayers.

Surely she will pass some on to her Green sister?


Sure that wouldn't be called Money Laundering to add further to the pile for Darling ? ;)


why not just install a burkha, a quick change of name, a new licence & she might be able to earn her own & the top table overlooking the carry on of the profession would probably sign it off .. let's face it - they seem to have an already overflowing trail of wonderfully exciting talent onboard with wide and varied life experiences right down to gutter & lower levels.. another wont make a lot of difference ;)

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Could someone please start a Give a Little page to help Goldritz with this malaise that has beset her?

Oh, hang on, that won't be necessary.

Darleen Tana is on full pay for going nothing, funded by the taxpayers.

Surely she will pass some on to her Green sister?

Darleen might be needing the money to defend herself against charges of worker/migrant exploitation, tax evasion and breach of electioneering laws.

Lawyers as usual will be the main beneficiary of taxpayers’ largess.

[Balance]

Excellent assessment of what’s happening with the long awaited independent report on Darleen Tana.

Looking like Tana is all lawyered up (more $$$$ for lawyers) and playing hard ball with Swarbrick & Davidson who are cornered and more concerned with politics than they are with natural justice.

Also, the racist cards Green has been using are now coming back to bite them on the backside!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-party-needs-to-front-up-on-farcical-darleen-tana-inquiry-bryce-edwards-political-roundup/S4YJHJJ34FBL3MJHB6E52WSE5Q/

“Because she is refusing to go quietly, almost inevitably. She has either lawyered up to stop the Greens releasing the final report, or she is refusing to resign. The Greens can’t force her to resign (unless they used the waka jumping law they oppose), and it would be embarrassing to them to have her remain in Parliament as an independent MP. Or worse, she could be threatening to defect to Te Pāti Māori if they sanction her, claiming the investigation against her has been neo-colonial and is structurally racist.”

[jonu]

Excellent assessment of what’s happening with the long awaited independent report on Darleen Tana.

Looking like Tana is all lawyered up (more $$$$ for lawyers) and playing hard ball with Swarbrick & Davidson who are cornered and more concerned with politics than they are with natural justice.

Also, the racist cards Green has been using are now coming back to bite them on the backside!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-party-needs-to-front-up-on-farcical-darleen-tana-inquiry-bryce-edwards-political-roundup/S4YJHJJ34FBL3MJHB6E52WSE5Q/

“Because she is refusing to go quietly, almost inevitably. She has either lawyered up to stop the Greens releasing the final report, or she is refusing to resign. The Greens can’t force her to resign (unless they used the waka jumping law they oppose), and it would be embarrassing to them to have her remain in Parliament as an independent MP. Or worse, she could be threatening to defect to Te Pāti Māori if they sanction her, claiming the investigation against her has been neo-colonial and is structurally racist.”

MP Tana waka jumping to Te Pati Maori would be delicious irony. It may just raise the integrity levels of both the Greens and TPM!

I hope she does, locking in a growing divide between the 2 racist/sexist/neo-marxist fringes of the Left. Remember how cosy they were heading into the last election? High fives between Davidson and Ngarewa-Packer!

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MP Tana waka jumping to Te Pati Maori would be delicious irony. It may just raise the integrity levels of both the Greens and TPM!

I hope she does, locking in a growing divide between the 2 racist/sexist/neo-marxist fringes of the Left. Remember how cosy they were heading into the last election? High fives between Davidson and Ngarewa-Packer!

Whichever it goes, be great if Tana stays in Parliament until she is forced to resign when the court cases of (alleged) migrant exploitation, employee exploitation, tax evasion and breach of Covid regulations are brought against her.

She will sit in Parliament and be subject to ridicule and odium, sitting after sitting.

Maybe, the Maori Party would love that?

[Daytr]

Excellent assessment of what’s happening with the long awaited independent report on Darleen Tana.

Looking like Tana is all lawyered up (more $$$$ for lawyers) and playing hard ball with Swarbrick & Davidson who are cornered and more concerned with politics than they are with natural justice.

Also, the racist cards Green has been using are now coming back to bite them on the backside!

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-party-needs-to-front-up-on-farcical-darleen-tana-inquiry-bryce-edwards-political-roundup/S4YJHJJ34FBL3MJHB6E52WSE5Q/

“Because she is refusing to go quietly, almost inevitably. She has either lawyered up to stop the Greens releasing the final report, or she is refusing to resign. The Greens can’t force her to resign (unless they used the waka jumping law they oppose), and it would be embarrassing to them to have her remain in Parliament as an independent MP. Or worse, she could be threatening to defect to Te Pāti Māori if they sanction her, claiming the investigation against her has been neo-colonial and is structurally racist.”

Surely it can't possibly an excellent assessment, as it was published on the leftist biased MSM Herald site. 🤣


MP Tana waka jumping to Te Pati Maori would be delicious irony. It may just raise the integrity levels of both the Greens and TPM!

I hope she does, locking in a growing divide between the 2 racist/sexist/neo-marxist fringes of the Left. Remember how cosy they were heading into the last election? High fives between Davidson and Ngarewa-Packer!

Coming from a conspiracy theorist who wouldn't know sexism if it was a wet fish that smacked him in the face.
Do you read what you write? Just a tad extreme, well fits with the rabbit warren dwellers in their own echo chamber I suppose.
Dinosaurs commenting on sexism.
Oh men have it so unfair 🙄

[Daytr]

Whichever it goes, be great if Tana stays in Parliament until she is forced to resign when the court cases of (alleged) migrant exploitation, employee exploitation, tax evasion and breach of Covid regulations are brought against her.

She will sit in Parliament and be subject to ridicule and odium, sitting after sitting.

Maybe, the Maori Party would love that?

She's a list MP so if she jumps party wouldn't she be out of parliament as the Greens are able to replace her with the next person on their list?

[Balance]

She's a list MP so if she jumps party wouldn't she be out of parliament as the Greens are able to replace her with the next person on their list?

"She has either lawyered up to stop the Greens releasing the final report, or she is refusing to resign. The Greens can’t force her to resign (unless they used the waka jumping law they oppose)."

Greens caught again in the hypocrisy that they have cloaked themselves in.

Thieves, migrant/worker exploiter, bullies, tax evaders, Covid lockdown breachers, hypocrites - them Greens sure know how to pick them!

[Balance]

Surely it can't possibly an excellent assessment, as it was published on the leftist biased MSM Herald site. ��



Yawn.

So Mike Hoskings and Richard Prebble writing their opinion pieces like Bryce Edwards are by your definition then are also left wing?

A priest preaching in jail does not make him a criminal.

[Daytr]

Yawn.

So Mike Hoskings and Richard Prebble writing their opinion pieces like Bryce Edwards are by your definition then are also left wing?

A priest preaching in jail does not make him a criminal.

Catch up. I'm paraphrasing your repetitive claims of the left bias of NZ MSM publications.
It's hilarious that you now use the very names I have repeated on here to counter your claims of left bias in the NZ MSM.
If you are going to lie, you need to have a better memory.

[Daytr]

"She has either lawyered up to stop the Greens releasing the final report, or she is refusing to resign. The Greens can’t force her to resign (unless they used the waka jumping law they oppose)."

Greens caught again in the hypocrisy that they have cloaked themselves in.

Thieves, migrant/worker exploiter, bullies, tax evaders, Covid lockdown breachers, hypocrites - them Greens sure know how to pick them!

I'm not sure the Greens position on waka jumping applied to list MPs, rather electorate MPs, but happy to be corrected.

[Balance]

Catch up. I'm paraphrasing your repetitive claims of the left bias of NZ MSM publications.
It's hilarious that you now use the very names I have repeated on here to counter your claims of left bias in the NZ MSM.
If you are going to lie, you need to have a better memory.

Drunk again at this time of the day?

You need a life mate!

[Daytr]

Drunk again at this time of the day?

You need a life mate!

Your last resort derogatory behaviour fools no one.

[davflaws]

A priest preaching in jail does not make him a criminal.

Of course not - but how about a bleeding heart, virtue signalling, lefty do gooder, sapping the energy and moral fibre of the losers, parasites, and scumbags he's addressing.

[causecelebre]

Ghahraman has been fined and most importantly convicted. I think this is fair. Getting the conviction was key for me

[nztx]

Ghahraman has been fined and most importantly convicted. I think this is fair. Getting the conviction was key for me


Indeed - very fair.. she couldn't expect to be let off with a free bus pass

the nonsense coming out now like it was an excuse to get her out of Politics casts more light on things :)

[Daytr]

Ghahraman has been fined and most importantly convicted. I think this is fair. Getting the conviction was key for me

Yep, agreed.

[nztx]

The Green Brother & Sisterhood have a very unique ability to dig the trenches that they are about
to fall into ever deeper & deeper - don't they ? ;)

Did they give lessons to Robbo on their flawed excavation techniques, but then forget to tell him to
stand back from the edge to reduce chance of going splat on the bottom ? ;)

[Balance]

Indeed - very fair.. she couldn't expect to be let off with a free bus pass

the nonsense coming out now like it was an excuse to get her out of Politics casts more light on things :)

The excuse used by Winona Ryder (the actress) for her shoplifting - that it would make her uncastable for movie roles.

It would have counted against Golriz to copycat the excuse.

Anyway, good to see justice done.

[mistaTea]

Ghahraman has been fined and most importantly convicted. I think this is fair. Getting the conviction was key for me

Yes very fair sentence.

She has paid a heavy price already. Pleased she was convicted - I thought she might get discharged without conviction or something silly.

[causecelebre]

Swarbrick publically chanting “from the river to the sea” again today. Apparently apologies from Swarbrick only last for as long as they last. Chanting this and “intifada” is the very definition of hate speech. More hypocrisy from the emerald manakins

[nztx]

Swarbrick publically chanting “from the river to the sea” again today. Apparently apologies from Swarbrick only last for as long as they last. Chanting this and “intifada” is the very definition of hate speech. More hypocrisy from the emerald manakins


Fancy that - not even a thought to do a little fundraising thingie to help pay the fines of her unhinged convicted jobless refugee mate turfed out on a loose end ;)

[fungus pudding]

Swarbrick publically chanting “from the river to the sea” again today. Apparently apologies from Swarbrick only last for as long as they last. Chanting this and “intifada” is the very definition of hate speech. More hypocrisy from the emerald manakins

What it might mean - take your pick.

https://apnews.com/article/river-sea-israel-gaza-hamas-protests-d7abbd756f481fe50b6fa5c0b907cd49

[jonu]

Here is perhaps a more helpful chant for Chloe, if she genuinely wants peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wABSYi8Kjtg

"In Jerusalem, the Lord always surprises us.... When we asked the Syrians if we could record a video in their church, our intention was to film a chant of the Syro-Malankara rite. But the deacon asked us very fervently to sing with them the Lord's Prayer in Aramaic (the language that our Lord spoke here on earth and that the Syriac Christians still use in parts of their liturgy). When two Syriac monks joined us, we spontaneously made this recording.

According to Syriac tradition, the "House of St. Mark", where this chapel is located, is the place where the Last Supper and the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the apostles took place.

We would like to dedicate this song to our beloved Heavenly Father and ask that all people come to know, honor and love Him. In a special way, we would like to include in our prayers all the persecuted Christians in the Middle East."

[Getty]

Now that Goldritz has been sentenced, and if no legal appeal is made, most would agree that she can close that chapter of her life and move on.

But observing her during the interview with John Campbell made me think that some coaching from Marama Davidson had taken place, and there was an attempt to shift blame to white cis men.

All these alleged rape threats during her time in Parliament

Were complaints made to Police at the time, and investigation take place?

Any arrests?

[mistaTea]

Now that Goldritz has been sentenced, and if no legal appeal is made, most would agree that she can close that chapter of her life and move on.

But observing her during the interview with John Campbell made me think that some coaching from Marama Davidson had taken place, and there was an attempt to shift blame to white cis men.

All these alleged rape threats during her time in Parliament

Were complaints made to Police at the time, and investigation take place?

Any arrests?

Yes all a bit mysterious. The judge reckons she read some of the messages Golriz has received and was appalled.

On the balance of probabilities I think there are more than enough nut cases in this country to have sent her disgusting messages as claimed. Using that as an excuse for the shoplifting is a bit of a stretch though. The judge saw through that.

Hell, women undress me with their eyes every time I go out. I feel like such a piece of meat when I can tell that all they wanna do is smack that ass.

But ya don’t see me out stealing to cope with the stress of it all do ya!

[Getty]

Mr T, you will forever lament that she was not sentenced to regular lashes from the rotan, administered by you...

[dln]

@Getty
You waiting for a knock on the door?

[Getty]

@G
etty
You waiting for a knock on the door?

Not on this occasion.

[Daytr]

Swarbrick publically chanting “from the river to the sea” again today. Apparently apologies from Swarbrick only last for as long as they last. Chanting this and “intifada” is the very definition of hate speech. More hypocrisy from the emerald manakins

Hi Causecelebre, please explain how by Swarbrick saying this is hate speech?
Perhaps check out the link Fungus Pudding posted in response to yours

[Daytr]

Here is perhaps a more helpful chant for Chloe, if she genuinely wants peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wABSYi8Kjtg

"In Jerusalem, the Lord always surprises us.... When we asked the Syrians if we could record a video in their church, our intention was to film a chant of the Syro-Malankara rite. But the deacon asked us very fervently to sing with them the Lord's Prayer in Aramaic (the language that our Lord spoke here on earth and that the Syriac Christians still use in parts of their liturgy). When two Syriac monks joined us, we spontaneously made this recording.

According to Syriac tradition, the "House of St. Mark", where this chapel is located, is the place where the Last Supper and the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the apostles took place.

We would like to dedicate this song to our beloved Heavenly Father and ask that all people come to know, honor and love Him. In a special way, we would like to include in our prayers all the persecuted Christians in the Middle East."


Beautiful music which I'm sure Swarbrick would enjoy, probably not her lyrics though as she is based in this world, trying to save this world, from environmental destruction, not some fairytale world.

It's a shame they couldn't include the millions of persecuted Palestinians in their prayers as well. Wrong club I suspect.

[Balance]

Swarbrick publically chanting “from the river to the sea” again today. Apparently apologies from Swarbrick only last for as long as they last. Chanting this and “intifada” is the very definition of hate speech. More hypocrisy from the emerald manakins

Swarbrick is as nasty as they come - biased, hypocritical, opinionated and lecturing - but she will not apply any of the immortal values of decency, morality and respect she has the audacity to require of others.

Of course she is spouting hate speech from her nasty little mouth - because she knows very well that what she is uttering is not only offensive to others (Jews) but incites hatred against them.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/11/chl-e-swarbrick-apologises-to-those-who-have-felt-pro-palestine-chant-offended-them.html

Chlöe Swarbrick has apologised after using a pro-Palestinian phrase during a solidarity rally in Tāmaki Makaurau on Saturday.

Swarbrick told Newstalk ZB she apologised "to those who felt as though it has [offended them]".

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/02/11/israel-gaza-swarbrick-used-controversial-chant-despite-urging-from-school/

Q+A has seen a letter sent to Swarbrick by Kadimah School in 2021, a Jewish special character school, which at the time was located in her Auckland Central electorate.

It followed a meeting Swarbrick attended at the school, following a different instance of Green MPs using the phrase.

The chant was condemned in Kadimah School’s letter, with the school’s principal and Board of Trustees chair describing it as “at best, a call for the destruction of the Jewish state and is widely considered a genocidal chant against the Jewish people.”

“This is not a question of intention, it is a request for a clear mandate and policy on how minority groups are protected while our leaders show support to particular groups without explicit or implicit calls for harassment, violence, or genocide,” the letter read.

Swarbrick confirmed that she was given that message by the school at the meeting.

[Balance]

Now that Goldritz has been sentenced, and if no legal appeal is made, most would agree that she can close that chapter of her life and move on.

But observing her during the interview with John Campbell made me think that some coaching from Marama Davidson had taken place, and there was an attempt to shift blame to white cis men.

All these alleged rape threats during her time in Parliament

Were complaints made to Police at the time, and investigation take place?

Any arrests?

All class 'A' BS from Golriz and her lawyer.

If she had really been so concerned about her safety, how is it that she feels so free to be everywhere whenever she wants?

At protests (where her supporters are the ones to threaten & exact violence on others), at public meetings and of course, at boutiques while she was indulging in her favorite past time of committing crime?

Her whole life has been a charade of falsehoods, supposedly being a "refugee", "poor upbringing", "UN prosecutor" and "top human rights lawyer".

Anywhere, here's to her making the best of the opportunity given to her by a lenient judge - build up a truthful & genuine life outside of politics.

[Ggcc]

Swarbrick is as nasty as they come - biased, hypocritical, opinionated and lecturing - but she will not apply any of the immortal values of decency, morality and respect she dares to require of others.

Of course she is spouting hate speech from her nasty little mouth - because she knows very well that what she is uttering is not only offensive to others (Jews) but incites hatred against them.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/11/chl-e-swarbrick-apologises-to-those-who-have-felt-pro-palestine-chant-offended-them.html

Chlöe Swarbrick has apologised after using a pro-Palestinian phrase during a solidarity rally in Tāmaki Makaurau on Saturday.

Swarbrick told Newstalk ZB she apologised "to those who felt as though it has [offended them]".

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/02/11/israel-gaza-swarbrick-used-controversial-chant-despite-urging-from-school/

Q+A has seen a letter sent to Swarbrick by Kadimah School in 2021, a Jewish special character school, which at the time was located in her Auckland Central electorate.

It followed a meeting Swarbrick attended at the school, following a different instance of Green MPs using the phrase.

The chant was condemned in Kadimah School’s letter, with the school’s principal and Board of Trustees chair describing it as “at best, a call for the destruction of the Jewish state and is widely considered a genocidal chant against the Jewish people.”

“This is not a question of intention, it is a request for a clear mandate and policy on how minority groups are protected while our leaders show support to particular groups without explicit or implicit calls for harassment, violence, or genocide,” the letter read.

Swarbrick confirmed that she was given that message by the school at the meeting.
Swarbrick is a lost, entitled and not educated enough for her own good, as she can't see her own hypocrisy (I have met these people before). If a Green voter can't see through it, they are a cult member of the Greens. That goes for all politicians and political parties. I just can't stand her.

[Balance]

Swarbrick is a lost, entitled and not educated enough for her own good, as she can't see her own hypocrisy (I have met these people before). If a Green voter can't see through it, they are a cult member of the Greens. That goes for all politicians and political parties. I just can't stand her.

Yup - she is nowhere to be seen in the Middle East/Arab countries protesting for human rights there - because they will string her up and throw her off a rooftop for being a lesbian.

[mistaTea]

Yup - she is nowhere to be seen in the Middle East/Arab countries protesting for human rights there - because they will string her up and throw her off a rooftop for being a lesbian.

Is Chloe a dyke? I didn’t realise!

Yes her favourite group - Hamas - would not take too kindly to her in that case.

[Balance]

Is Chloe a dyke? I didn’t realise!

Yes her favourite group - Hamas - would not take too kindly to her in that case.

Hamas would probably, in her case, be ‘kind’ first. They will try to convince her that she is otherwise by pairing her up with one of their heroic fighters who kidnapped, murdered and raped innocent women and children on Oct 7th.

Being a nice person, I hope she continues to be the hypocrite and steers clear of championing the cause of human rights for the Palestinian LBQT community. Otherwise, she will learn what it is to be one of the innocent Jewish victims.

[Panda-NZ-]

Is Chloe a dyke? I didn’t realise!

Yes her favourite group - Hamas - would not take too kindly to her in that case.

It's funny seeing them dress up in palestianian scarves... esp real characters like Steve Abel.

When are environmental issues going to come up for the greens. You would think they have a lot of material with the oil and gas changes which I don't think most NZers agree with.

[Daytr]

Swarbrick is as nasty as they come - biased, hypocritical, opinionated and lecturing - but she will not apply any of the immortal values of decency, morality and respect she has the audacity to require of others.

Of course she is spouting hate speech from her nasty little mouth - because she knows very well that what she is uttering is not only offensive to others (Jews) but incites hatred against them.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/11/chl-e-swarbrick-apologises-to-those-who-have-felt-pro-palestine-chant-offended-them.html

Chlöe Swarbrick has apologised after using a pro-Palestinian phrase during a solidarity rally in Tāmaki Makaurau on Saturday.

Swarbrick told Newstalk ZB she apologised "to those who felt as though it has [offended them]".

https://www.1news.co.nz/2024/02/11/israel-gaza-swarbrick-used-controversial-chant-despite-urging-from-school/

Q+A has seen a letter sent to Swarbrick by Kadimah School in 2021, a Jewish special character school, which at the time was located in her Auckland Central electorate.

It followed a meeting Swarbrick attended at the school, following a different instance of Green MPs using the phrase.

The chant was condemned in Kadimah School’s letter, with the school’s principal and Board of Trustees chair describing it as “at best, a call for the destruction of the Jewish state and is widely considered a genocidal chant against the Jewish people.”

“This is not a question of intention, it is a request for a clear mandate and policy on how minority groups are protected while our leaders show support to particular groups without explicit or implicit calls for harassment, violence, or genocide,” the letter read.

Swarbrick confirmed that she was given that message by the school at the meeting.

That's quite a serious accusation you have made there about hate speech. Highly inaccurate and quite possibly libelous.

[Balance]

That's quite a serious accusation you have made there about hate speech. Highly inaccurate and quite possibly libelous.

She knows what to do - come and kiss my arse.

Where is the hate speech legislation? Would love for a test case to be taken against the *itch for her purposeful hateful incitements against Jews.

[Daytr]

Swarbrick is a lost, entitled and not educated enough for her own good, as she can't see her own hypocrisy (I have met these people before). If a Green voter can't see through it, they are a cult member of the Greens. That goes for all politicians and political parties. I just can't stand her.

Perhaps you need to ask yourself why you are so triggered?
Like her or not, Swarbrick is highly intelligent. She quite often runs rings around Seymour when they share an interview. I don't like Seymour either, but I respect his intelligence.

[Balance]

Perhaps you need to ask yourself why you are so triggered?
Like her or not, Swarbrick is highly intelligent. She quite often runs rings around Seymour when they share an interview. I don't like Seymour either, but I respect his intelligence.

Hahahaha !

She is like a lost little school girl ready to cry whenever Seymour confronts her in the interviews! :t_up:

[Bjauck]

Is “From the river to the sea” hate speech? It refers to the geographic area. The Likud Party of Israel uses a similar expression. ”between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”.

The United Nations position is that Israel is in continued illegal occupation of Palestinian territories, contrary to international law.

[Panda-NZ-]

It's unfortunate but the gaza conflict is remote to NZ & taxpayers have spent too much time discussing it.

There's plenty more wars in the middle east region (let alone africa) and there will be until the end of time.

[Panda-NZ-]

In saying that the US could stop sending billions to a country that is of no national security concern to them (Israel). ;)

[nztx]

It's unfortunate but the gaza conflict is remote to NZ & taxpayers have spent too much time discussing it.

There's plenty more wars in the middle east region (let alone africa) and there will be until the end of time.


Have the Greens ever got concerned over Ukraine ? Perhaps thought of the KGB & Dr Putrid has confused them and stunted the selective range of their delicate spinning antennae ? ;)

[nztx]

In saying that the US could stop sending billions to a country that is of no national security concern to them (Israel). ;)


Send it instead to the Kiwi '"Make a Green Smarter & Green Re-Education Fund" - where nothing will ever be seen after it disappears into the begging bowl and the queue for entrants to make a name for themselves jumping off the plank to go splat will further lengthen ? ;)

[Balance]

Is “From the river to the sea” hate speech? It refers to the geographic area. The Likud Party of Israel uses a similar expression. ”between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”.

The United Nations position is that Israel is in continued illegal occupation of Palestinian territories, contrary to international law.

When the *itch was told that it is offensive by Jews and it incites hatred & violence against them and she persists in using it (after she actually apologised to those who found it offensive), how can it not be hate speech?

[Daytr]

When the *itch was told that it is offensive by Jews and it incites hatred & violence against them and she persists in using it (after she actually apologised to those who found it offensive), how can it not be hate speech?

Maybe think a little about what you just wrote.
Just because some people think a certain thing doesn't make it hate speech.
It's obvious to anyone with any sensibility that Swarbrick isn't implying hatred towards Isreal.

You keep saying the Jews, it's quite incorrect to imply that all Jews think the same way, many are very vocal in their opposition to Netanyahu and his warlike ilk.

[Balance]

Maybe think a little about what you just wrote.
Just because some people think a certain thing doesn't make it hate speech.
It's obvious to anyone with any sensibility that Swarbrick isn't implying hatred towards Isreal.

You keep saying the Jews, it's quite incorrect to imply that all Jews think the same way, many are very vocal in their opposition to Netanyahu and his warlike ilk.

The Jewish community in NZ has spoken to the *itch and they have a;lso publicly asked her as the leader of a political party in NZ NOT to incite violence and hatred against them by using certain words and phrases.

She apologised and is still doing it - what do you call a person like that?

Netanyahu is a side issue from what the *itch is doing.

[Daytr]

The Jewish community in NZ has spoken to the *itch and they have a;lso publicly asked her as the leader of a political party in NZ NOT to incite violence and hatred against them by using certain words and phrases.

She apologised and is still doing it - what do you call a person like that?

Netanyahu is a side issue from what the *itch is doing.

Really the entire Jewish community. 🤣
Either way it's not hate speech. She isn't implying hate against Jews or Israel.

And stop calling woman on here bitches.
It's disgraceful as is your BS that you mean witch, which would make no sense.
Do you call Hipkins or Shaw a warlock? No because it would sound ludicrous.

[nztx]

Really the entire Jewish community. ��
Either way it's not hate speech. She isn't implying hate against Jews or Israel.

And stop calling woman on here bitches.
It's disgraceful as is your BS that you mean witch, which would make no sense.
Do you call Hipkins or Shaw a warlock? No because it would sound ludicrous.


Come now DT - has he been calling anyone on here *itches ? ;)

Looks like the Wandering Star has messed with your posting abilities ;)

[Balance]

Really the entire Jewish community. ��
Either way it's not hate speech. She isn't implying hate against Jews or Israel.

And stop calling woman on here bitches.
It's disgraceful as is your BS that you mean witch, which would make no sense.
Do you call Hipkins or Shaw a warlock? No because it would sound ludicrous.

Yes, the Jewish community in NZ as they are represented by the New Zealand Jewish Council.

The New Zealand Jewish Council is the representative body of Jewish communities in New Zealand. There are congregations in Auckland, Waikato, Wellington, Nelson, Christchurch and Dunedin. There are approximately 10,000 Jews in New Zealand with the largest population in Auckland followed by Wellington.

https://nzjc.org.nz/



The New Zealand Jewish Council told Newshub on Monday the phrase was antisemitic.

Spokesperson Juliet Moses said Swarbrick "essentially stoked the crowd with this incendiary chant".

"It is widely understood to be a call for the annihilation of Israel and quite possibly the Jewish people," Moses said.

The New Zealand Jewish Council told Newshub on Monday the phrase was antisemitic.

Spokesperson Juliet Moses said Swarbrick "essentially stoked the crowd with this incendiary chant".

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/11/chl-e-swarbrick-apologises-to-those-who-have-felt-pro-palestine-chant-offended-them.html

As for *itches, you have a mindset of bitches - your problem, not mine. I know what I think of her and yes, she would be burnt at the stake in the old days for her *itchy behavior.

The hypocrisy and audacity of the *itch Swarbrick are beyond belief - apologising and then, proceeding to mouth the same ugly and hatred inciting phrase again.

Karma will see her receiving due recognition by Hamas for her fine praise-worthy efforts on behalf of Jew haters.

[mistaTea]

As for *itches, you have a mindset of bitches - your problem, not mine. I know what I think of her and yes, she would be burnt at the stake in the old days for her *itchy behavior.

The hypocrisy and audacity of the *itch Swarbrick are beyond belief - apologising and then, proceeding to mouth the same ugly and hatred inciting phrase again.

Karma will see her receiving due recognition by Hamas for her fine praise-worthy efforts on behalf of Jew haters.

Mate don’t worry about these posters who jump to conclusions and make wild accusations. They reveal their own hand when they make those comments.

And look, at the end of the day…Chloe is what you get when you pick the *unt of the litter.

[davflaws]

And look, at the end of the day…Chloe is what you get when you pick the *unt of the litter.

Yuk. Misogyny, and pretty vile misogyny at that.

[mistaTea]

Yuk. Misogyny, and pretty vile misogyny at that.

How is my post misogyny?

She was the real runt of the litter compared to all other possible candidates?

Man, you do-gooding ‘Right Fighters’ really have got it all wrong!

[Balance]

How is my post misogyny?

She was the real runt of the litter compared to all other possible candidates?

Man, you do-gooding ‘Right Fighters’ really have got it all wrong!

Shows what kind of minds the do-gooders have - clear that their purpose is to maintain the dependency & despondency of the beneficiaries, parasites and losers bred by Ardern & Labour.

Very telling how their minds instantly conjure up the most vile of characterisations with words which are entirely appropriate to describe the likes of Swarbrick and Ardern.

Oh well, better we know them for who they are than they know themselves.

[mistaTea]

Shows what kind of minds the do-gooders have - clear that their purpose is to maintain the dependency & despondency of the beneficiaries, parasites and losers bred by Ardern & Labour.

Very telling how their minds instantly conjure up the most vile of characterisations with words which are entirely appropriate to describe the likes of Swarbrick and Ardern.

Oh well, better we know them for who they are than they know themselves.

Yes, deep down they must use those kinds of vile words to describe Cindy and Chloe.

And so they cannot bring themselves to believe that we could mean anything else.

It is known as The Liar’s Tragedy.

[davflaws]

How is my post misogyny?

She was the real runt of the litter compared to all other possible candidates?



I find it really difficult to believe that you don't know. The asterisk in your original post didn't get there by accident.

You should withdraw and apologise.

Balance is a lost cause, but you have demonstrated a capacity for decency, self awareness, and reflection, and this post is unworthy of you.

[mistaTea]

I find it eally difficult to believe that you don't know. The asterisk in your original post didn't get there by accident.

You should withdraw and apologise.

You are making wild accusations. I, like Balance, have stipulated what we mean.

What you find easy or difficult to believe is none of my concern.

I would apologise if I were you and stop being so libellous of other posters.

Just absolutely disgusting where your mind goes.

[davflaws]

You are making wild accusations. I, like Balance, have stipulated what we mean.

What you find easy or difficult to believe is none of my concern.

I would apologise if I were you and stop being so libellous of other posters.

Just absolutely disgusting where your mind goes.

Anyone who posts about a female politician referring to the *unt of the litter, is really stretching credulity to claim that they did so innocently, and that their only intention was to refer to the runt.

Like I said - misogyny - and vile misogyny at that. Unworthy of you.

[Daytr]

Anyone who posts about a female politician referring to the *unt of the litter, is really stretching credulity to claim that they did so innocently, and that their only intention was to refer to the runt.

Like I said - misogyny - and vile misogyny at that. Unworthy of you.

Well said. They know exactly what they are doing and it just displays their lack of integrity that they don't own it.
It's not smart, it's ugly & childish.

Why use an asterisk for runt or witch?
Seriously where is their integrity?
None whatsoever.
They are a disgrace to themselves.

[mistaTea]

Anyone who posts about a female politician referring to the *unt of the litter, is really stretching credulity to claim that they did so innocently, and that their only intention was to refer to the runt.

Like I said - misogyny - and vile misogyny at that. Unworthy of you.

I expect this kind of emotional feasting from Dandelo.

But I thought you and I had made good progress bridging the gap.

The only word that makes sense in the context of the post was runt. Runt of the litter.

I am sorry you cannot bring yourself to believe that.

[Balance]

Well said. They know exactly what they are doing and it just displays their lack of integrity that they don't own it.
It's not smart, it's ugly & childish.

Why use an asterisk for runt or witch?
Seriously where is their integrity?
None whatsoever.
They are a disgrace to themselves.

Caught out with their disgusting mindset, Daytr and Davflaws attempt to deflect as usual.

You have gone quiet about that *itch Swarbrick using the hateful phrase intended to incite hatred and animosity against the Jewish people?

The *itch apologised and then, uses the phrase again when she knows how offensive and repugnant the phrase is to the Jewish community - the sheer hypocrisy of the *itch is beyond comprehension.

[Daytr]

I expect this kind of emotional feasting from Dandelo.

But I thought you and I had made good progress bridging the gap.

The only word that makes sense in the context of the post was runt. Runt of the litter.

I am sorry you cannot bring yourself to believe that.

Do you have any pride?
Any scruples?
Explain the use of the asterisk then?
You have become what you accuse others of, this fictional Dandelo figure that you are fixated with.
Perhaps you should just stick to your dungeons & dragons, at least fantasy is encouraged there.

[Daytr]

Caught out with their disgusting mindset, Daytr and Davflaws attempt to deflect as usual.

You have gone quiet about that *itch Swarbrick using the hateful phrase intended to incite hatred and animosity against the Jewish people?

The *itch apologised and then, uses the phrase again when she knows how offensive and repugnant the phrase is to the Jewish community - the sheer hypocrisy of the *itch is beyond comprehension.

Keep it up.
Please do, I'm not sure how you will satisfy your addiction once banned though.
I suppose you will double down on all the other sites.
How much time do actually spend posting such repugnant garbage?
What a life? What a waste.

Perhaps fill your time dreaming about the fictional beach house and what you & Barbie will do there. 🤣
Seriously, who posts pictures of random beach houses that aren't theirs. That's quite special.

[mistaTea]

Hey Balance,

All I know is a carefully placed asterisk is all it took to smoke these bastard out eh!

[Daytr]

Hey Balance,

All I know is a carefully placed asterisk is all it took to smoke these bastard out eh!

Nice try buddy, as I've said it was childish and it's obvious you were trying to wind certain people up. However it doesn't excuse the repugnant terminology.

You have written sexualized posts about female MPs and used all sorts ugly terms as well.
Go and so those same things to your wife, or your daughter, mother or sister and see how they view it.

Buddying up with one the most repugnant posters on here ain't a great strategy. If you sleep with rats expect to get the plague.
You have no pride & no integrity.

[Balance]

Hey Balance,

All I know is a carefully placed asterisk is all it took to smoke these bastard out eh!

Too easy!

I would never describe Ardern & Swarbrick as bitches as that would be a gross and degrading insult to female dogs.

Just as I would never describe female dogs as *itches.

Female dogs are born as they are and live their lives doing the decent things always - no hypocrisy, pretenses, BS or spin from them. They never behave like those two *itches.

[mistaTea]

It has been said that we do not describe the world as it is.

We describe the world as we are.

Something to ponder perhaps.

[Daytr]

It has been said that we do not describe the world as it is.

We describe the world as we are.

Something to ponder perhaps.

Considering both your posts, you live in pretty ugly worlds.

[Bjauck]

When the *itch was told that it is offensive by Jews and it incites hatred & violence against them and she persists in using it (after she actually apologised to those who found it offensive), how can it not be hate speech?

Context is important as otherwise political or normal statements can be used to provoke a particular violent reaction.

I imagine Palestinians have suffered more brutality as a result of the effect from “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli Sovereignty”.

[Balance]

Context is important as otherwise political or normal statements can be used to provoke a particular violent reaction.

I imagine Palestinians have suffered more brutality as a result of the effect from “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli Sovereignty”.

Context can come and kiss my arse.

That *itch Swarbrick knows exactly what she is doing when she insists upon uttering the phrase (especially after she apologised for using it). Once a *itch, always a *itch. She cannot help herself.

Karma will visit her for her hypocrisy and duplicity in supporting the massacre of innocents.

[Daytr]

Context can come and kiss my arse.

That *itch Swarbrick knows exactly what she is doing when she insists upon uttering the phrase (especially after she apologised for using it). Once a *itch, always a *itch. She cannot help herself.

Context is everything including her apology which was only to those who were offended, not for using the phrase.

Instead of criticism for her support of the Palestinian people against persecution despite homophobic stance of some Muslims that wouldno doubt be personal to her, she should be commended for setting that aside to stand against said persecution by Israel for decades.

[mistaTea]

Context is everything including her apology which was only to those who were offended, not for using the phrase.


Dandelo, if she was not apologising for using the phrase then what was she sorry about?

[Balance]

Context is everything including her apology which was only to those who were offended, not for using the phrase.

Instead of criticism for her support of the Palestinian people against persecution despite homophobic stance of some Muslims, she should be commended for setting that aside to stand against said persecution by Israel for decades.

Persecution according to some - not all. The history of conflict of Israel vs Palestine & Arabs is not as clear cut as some would like to assert.

Who rejected peace proposals one after another, waged wars and ended losers screeching for justice?

Back to the *itch, she apologised to those who were offended and who were offended? And why? If the *itch is indeed that dumb, she is not fit (which she is not anyway) to be a leader of a political party but maybe, as this is the Greenies - that's why she is!:t_up:

[Daytr]

Dandelo, if she was not apologising for using the phrase then what was she sorry about?

Keep reading fantasy fiction as you obviously can't read posts.

[mistaTea]

Keep reading fantasy fiction as you obviously can't read posts.

What did I misunderstand about your post, Dandelo?

You said she apologised to only those who were offended about what she said…but was not apologising for the use of the actual phrase.

Huh?

So I asked what it was she said she was sorry for.

So, enlighten me?

[Balance]

What did I misunderstand about your post, Dandelo?

You said she apologies to only those who were offended about what she said…but was not apologising for the use of the actual phrase.

Huh?

So I asked what it was she said she was sorry for.

So, enlighten me?

It’s ok, mT - he follows the spin artists *itches Ardern & Swarbrick like a *onkey
And think that he can get away with the same BS here.

But poor *onkey is finding out he can’t.

[nztx]

It’s ok, mT - he follows the spin artists *itches Ardern & Swarbrick like a *onkey
And think that he can get away with the same BS here.

But poor *onkey is finding out he can’t.



Life must be miserable somewhere without Ardern, the Clownface Schoolteacher & the Green Muppets not getting much airspace to spin their quota of fluffy fairy tales out to the every Day noddies ;)

[mistaTea]

Life must be miserable somewhere without Ardern, the Clownface Schoolteacher & the Green Muppets not getting much airspace to spin their quota of fluffy fairy tales out to the every Day noddies ;)

Some of these posters keep trying to make out how awesome they are, but in reality they are very very one-sided in their views.

Then there is Dandelo - the ultimate psychic vampire.

I caution everyone about falling into his trap.

He damn near killed Roland Deschain of Gilead once, ken me do ya?

[ynot]

Some of these posters keep trying to make out how awesome they are, but in reality they are very very one-sided in their views.

Then there is Dandelo - the ultimate psychic vampire.

I caution everyone about falling into his trap.

He damn near killed Roland Deschain of Gilead once, ken me do ya?

He is a total waste of space. Ignore.

[Daytr]

What did I misunderstand about your post, Dandelo?

You said she apologised to only those who were offended about what she said…but was not apologising for the use of the actual phrase.

Huh?

So I asked what it was she said she was sorry for.

So, enlighten me?

If you don't understand the difference then that is on you and your level of intelligence.

It reminds me of some of your repeated questions on the OCA thread that I was very patient with in explaining.
You clearly don't understand context or subtleties.

[mistaTea]

If you don't understand the difference then that is on you and your level of intelligence.

It reminds me of some of your repeated questions on the OCA thread that I was very patient with in explaining.
You clearly don't understand context or subtleties.

Dandelo sounds a lot like Donald Trump right now.

Cannot substantiate a claim so straight into insults and gaslighting.

But then cries like a baby when someone insults him.

What a f*cking prick lol.

[mistaTea]

He is a total waste of space. Ignore.

Yes you are 100% correct.

[Ferg]

He is a total waste of space. Ignore.

Agree - so much less rubbish to read with Dandelo on ignore. I don't miss the logical fallacies, gaslighting and invented definitions. Bring on more reports so we have something decent to discuss!

[Balance]

Agree - so much less rubbish to read with Dandelo on ignore. I don't miss the logical fallacies, gaslighting and invented definitions. Bring on more reports so we have something decent to discuss!

Could be a long time waiting for the reports, given how the Greens are gaming the political system.

Darleen Tana is still receiving $3,000+ every week while she is ‘stood’ aside until the release of the report (which is already with the co-leader *itches)

[Daytr]

Agree - so much less rubbish to read with Dandelo on ignore. I don't miss the logical fallacies, gaslighting and invented definitions. Bring on more reports so we have something decent to discuss!

Ooooh the school kids are ganging up.
Such toxic comments from some of you, glad to have struck a nerve.

Coming from you Ferg, I'll take this as a compliment. From someone who doesn't recognize the importance of a cashflow statement or the meaning of a term and doubles down despite the definition being in the Collins dictionary.
Just because you don't know it, doesn't mean it ain't true, in fact based on form the opposite is likely to be correct.

[Daytr]

Dandelo sounds a lot like Donald Trump right now.

Cannot substantiate a claim so straight into insults and gaslighting.

But then cries like a baby when someone insults him.

What a f*cking prick lol.

Such anger, and ugly words.
Great to see your consistent.
Anger and sexualizing female public figures isn't a good combo though. Typically the types that end up in an orange jumpsuit.

[mistaTea]

Hear me now, I beg ya.

As you can see…Dandelo laid low for a few hours so he can plan his trap…

Do not get caught in it!

The only true weapon against the psychic vampires is to NOT engage. To not respond.

Without emotions to feed on from unwitting participants, Dandelo cannot sustain himself.

Heed my counsel, beg ya I do!

[Balance]

Hear me now, I beg ya.

As you can see…Dandelo laid low for a few hours so he can plan his trap…

Do not get caught in it!

The only true weapon against the psychic vampires is to NOT engage. To not respond.

Without emotions to feed on from unwitting participants, Dandelo cannot sustain himself.

Heed my counsel, beg ya I do!

Into the Ignore list he goes.

[Daytr]

Hear me now, I beg ya.

As you can see…Dandelo laid low for a few hours so he can plan his trap…

Do not get caught in it!

The only true weapon against the psychic vampires is to NOT engage. To not respond.

Without emotions to feed on from unwitting participants, Dandelo cannot sustain himself.

Heed my counsel, beg ya I do!

Ohhh that's hilarious, such a devious plan I set out. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

You really are in another world along with your fantasy figure who keep referring to.
Please keep your comments in your own reality, as it may make women feel safer.

[Daytr]

Into the Ignore list he goes.

Ouch! 🤣🤣🤣
Seriously, who cares & it will be quite nice not to see posts from you begging me to kiss your arse.

That fixation is really quite embarrassing and repugnant at the same time.
Does your partner know about this?
Or is it just a closet thing?

Happy Sunday, another beautiful day here.
Loving it!

[777]

Into the Ignore list he goes.

What has taken you so long?

[mistaTea]

What has taken you so long?

He he.

From what I can tell, Dandelo is almost universally regarded as waste of space.

We are all better to learn late than never!

[Balance]

What has taken you so long?

Could not allow him free rein to spread his bs and garbage unchallenged.

But his strident and increasingly desperate posts in the last few days have well & truly surfaced & revealed for all what a *onkey he is. So mission accomplished. :t_up:

[mistaTea]

Could not allow him free rein to spread his bs and garbage unchallenged.

But his strident and increasingly desperate posts in the last few days have well & truly surfaced & revealed for all what a *onkey he is. So mission accomplished. :t_up:

Yes your work is done. Absolutely nobody takes Dandelo seriously now.

If you go back and observe his posts…no matter how absurd or ridiculous he got he would always have to get the last word.

This is Dandelo 101.

He finds it better when his responses are absurd because that will infuriate the victim. It allows Dandelo to latch on tighter and get the dopamine hit that comes with feeding on raw emotion.

Powerful vampire.
I have never seen anything like it.

Dandelo needs help, but alas - there is no cure for what he has.

[Daytr]

Yes your work is done. Absolutely nobody takes Dandelo seriously now.

If you go back and observe his posts…no matter how absurd or ridiculous he got he would always have to get the last word.

This is Dandelo 101.

He finds it better when his responses are absurd because that will infuriate the victim. It allows Dandelo to latch on tighter and get the dopamine hit that comes with feeding on raw emotion.

Powerful vampire.
I have never seen anything like it.

Dandelo needs help, but alas - there is no cure for what he has.

Oh gawd I had a good belly laugh at that.
But I will add thanks for making my day.
Vampires & fantasy figures... 🤣🤣🤣
This is what some of you are reduced to. 🤣🤣🤣

Mind you I do prefer being called some vampire figure than being asked to kiss the repugnant arse.

And to be put on the sh1t list by a bunch of hard right misogynists suggests I'm doing something right. That is a gang I would never want to be associated with and long may it stay that way.

"Absolutely nobody" straight out of the Trump play book. Now there's a surprise. 🙄

[mistaTea]

I asked my AIssistant what the best way to combat Dandelo is… and very good advice has been given…

***

To combat Dandelo in Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" series, focus on these strategies:

1. **Mental Fortitude**: Strengthen your mind to resist Dandelo's psychic attacks.
2. **Knowledge**: Understand his abilities to anticipate his tricks.
3. **Emotional Control**: Stay calm and composed, as he feeds on emotions.
4. **Allies**: Work with companions who can support you during encounters.

Prepare by honing these skills, and you'll be better equipped to face him.

[davflaws]

I asked my AIssistant what the best way to combat Dandelo is… and very good advice has been given…

***

To combat Dandelo in Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" series, focus on these strategies:

1. **Mental Fortitude**: Strengthen your mind to resist Dandelo's psychic attacks.
2. **Knowledge**: Understand his abilities to anticipate his tricks.
3. **Emotional Control**: Stay calm and composed, as he feeds on emotions.
4. **Allies**: Work with companions who can support you during encounters.

Prepare by honing these skills, and you'll be better equipped to face him.

You don't really need to employ AI and retreat into the world of fantasy.

All you need to do is think before posting vile misogynistic nonsense and stop doing it.

As I said before, Balance is a lost cause, but you have demonstrated an ability for reflection, self awareness and self control. You are better than what you posted.

[Balance]

You don't really need to employ AI and retreat into the world of fantasy.

All you need to do is think before posting vile misogynistic nonsense and stop doing it.

As I said before, Balance is a lost cause, but you have demonstrated an ability for reflection, self awareness and self control. You are better than what you posted.

Davflaws - who believes a NZer has no culture or heritage unless they are a Maori or adopt Maori culture. That’s the sum total of his contribution in life.

[Bjauck]

What did I misunderstand about your post, Dandelo?

You said she apologised to only those who were offended about what she said…but was not apologising for the use of the actual phrase.

Huh?

So I asked what it was she said she was sorry for.

So, enlighten me?
“Chloe Swarbrick apologises for 'from the river to the sea' chant, Menendez-March declines to comment”
When asked if she would apologise for the phrase, Swarbrick said she apologised to those who have felt it offended them.
"But the point remains that what our focus, and what the spotlight needs to be on is the atrocities unfolding in Gaza," she said.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/chloe-swarbrick-apologises-for-from-the-river-to-the-sea-phrase-menendez-march-declines-to-comment (https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/chloe-swarbrick-apologises-for-from-the-river-to-the-sea-phrase-menendez-march-declines-to-comment/)

The slogan, and similar ones, when used by either Israeli or Palestinian seems to imply, for the other side, violent exclusivity in that area, contrary to International Law. For the furtherance of better relations, the expression, and similar ones, should be retired from use.

[mistaTea]

“Chloe Swarbrick apologises for 'from the river to the sea' chant, Menendez-March declines to comment”
When asked if she would apologise for the phrase, Swarbrick said she apologised to those who have felt it offended them.
"But the point remains that what our focus, and what the spotlight needs to be on is the atrocities unfolding in Gaza," she said.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/chloe-swarbrick-apologises-for-from-the-river-to-the-sea-phrase-menendez-march-declines-to-comment (https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/chloe-swarbrick-apologises-for-from-the-river-to-the-sea-phrase-menendez-march-declines-to-comment/)

The slogan, and similar ones, when used by either Israeli or Palestinian seems to imply, for the other side, violent exclusivity in that area, contrary to International Law. For the furtherance of better relations, the expression, and similar ones, should be retired from use.

Ok, perfect.

So she didn’t apologise at all really.

[jonu]

Ok, perfect.

So she didn’t apologise at all really.

She's sorry/not sorry.

[Daytr]

Ok, perfect.

So she didn’t apologise at all really.

Correct, as stated already she only apologized to the people that took offence not for what she said or meant.
It's only Balance that's claiming she did and in turn calling her a hypocrite for something she didn't do.

She didn't apologize for what she said, because she isn't inciting anything against Israel. She wants the persecution and land comfiscations to stop.
Hence nothing to apologize for.

[Balance]

She's sorry/not sorry.

Same BS on display this morning on TV3 with the *itch coming out with all kinds of BS and deflections as to why they have not released the report on Darleen Tana’s exploitation of migrants/workers, tax evasion and breach of Covid 19 lockdown rules. Seymour wisely let her tied herself in BS knots.

Heavens help Aotearoa if she ever gets into government with her irresponsible & wasteful spending of taxpayers’ funds - zero accountability.

[mistaTea]

Same BS on display this morning on TV3 with the *itch coming out with all kinds of BS and deflections as to why they have not released the report on Darleen Tana’s exploitation of migrants/workers, tax evasion and breach of Covid 19 lockdown rules. Seymour wisely let her tied herself in BS knots.

Heavens help Aotearoa if she ever gets into government with her irresponsible & wasteful spending of taxpayers’ funds - zero accountability.

It’s amazing really.

In theory the Greens should be a party of wonderful people with big hearts who care very deeply for the environment.

But just look at the absolute filth that end up joining their ranks.

I just can’t understand it.

[Balance]

It’s amazing really.

In theory the Greens should be a party of wonderful people with big hearts who care very deeply for the environment.

But just look at the absolute filth that end up joining their ranks.

I just can’t understand it.

Impossible to make that stuff up indeed, mT.

We had a leftist Justice Minister drink driving, fleeing the scene of the crime, having a police dog track her down, resisting arrest and then, wanting to fight the case in court but pleading guilty at the very last hour. Horrendous waste of everybody’s time and resources.

We then had a leftist Justice spokeswoman shoplifting (not once but many times), pleading mental health and all other manner of BS like PTSD and then, convicted.

Then we have Darleen Tana now dragging the chains of justice and the Greens accommodating her while Tana draws a salary on excess of $3,000+ every week while doing fxxk all. Natural justice, pleads Swarbrick the *itch - but zero consideration of taxpayers.

[whatsup]

Impossible to make that stuff up indeed, mT.

We had a leftist Justice Minister drink driving, fleeing the scene of the crime, having a police dog track her down, resisting arrest and then, wanting to fight the case in court but pleading guilty at the very last hour. Horrendous waste of everybody’s time and resources.

We then had a leftist Justice spokeswoman shoplifting (not once but many times), pleading mental health and all other manner of BS like PTSD and then, convicted.

Then we have Darleen Tana now dragging the chains of justice and the Greens accommodating her while Tana draws a salary on excess of $3,000+ every week while doing fxxk all. Natural justice, pleads Swarbrick the *itch - but zero consideration of taxpayers.

Bal why are you surprised, remember " the left is a lie " never forget this and these items just reinforce that !!

[fungus pudding]

Impossible to make that stuff up indeed, mT.

We had a leftist Justice Minister drink driving, fleeing the scene of the crime, having a police dog track her down, resisting arrest and then, wanting to fight the case in court but pleading guilty at the very last hour. Horrendous waste of everybody’s time and resources.

We then had a leftist Justice spokeswoman shoplifting (not once but many times), pleading mental health and all other manner of BS like PTSD and then, convicted.

Then we have Darleen Tana now dragging the chains of justice and the Greens accommodating her while Tana draws a salary on excess of $3,000+ every week while doing fxxk all. Natural justice, pleads Swarbrick the *itch - but zero consideration of taxpayers.

A little sympathy and understanding wouldn't go astray - they should all have automatic defence of mental health re all legal matters. Sufficient proof is provided by their choice of party to join.

[Bjauck]

It’s amazing really.

In theory the Greens should be a party of wonderful people with big hearts who care very deeply for the environment.

But just look at the absolute filth that end up joining their ranks.

I just can’t understand it. The days of the sincere and earnest environmentalism of Jeanette Fitzsimmons seem long gone.

[ynot]

The days of the sincere and earnest environmentalism of Jeanette Fitzsimmons seem long gone.

She certainly had a more persuasive argument than today's rabble. In my youth I could relate to green policy. Not so much today.

[Balance]

As if anyone can make sense of what the *itch Swarbrick was saying - what a freaking joke she is.

15 weeks into the investigation and this is the garbage which comes out of her mouth :

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/07/green-co-leader-chl-e-swarbrick-looking-forward-to-unpacking-darleen-tana-investigation.html

"I am really looking forward to unpacking this with all of the due public scrutiny and accountability when this investigation and its independent expertise is concluded," she said.

"It is in no one's interest to open that can of worms, and therefore put a finger on the scale such that we end up with anything less than robust conclusions which I can then make robust decisions upon."

[Balance]

I love her stunned mullet expression at the end as she then looks at the presenter with wide eyes when Lord Seymour asked, "Is it true that she has been suspended for longer than she was a MP?"

:D

Balance, after that interview I would have to go as far as saying she is not just a *itch.

She is a stinking *itch.

Light weight stinking slogan mouthing *itch indeed with no substance beyond the politics of envy & wanting to take down anyone who make a success of their lives and are self-reliant & independent of the state.

Freaking unbelievable that there are NZers who cannot see just how flakey the Green MPs are - criminals, bullies, racists, tax evaders! Anything but Green & for the environment.

[nztx]

She certainly had a more persuasive argument than today's rabble. In my youth I could relate to green policy. Not so much today.


Ditto - with the band of muppets & economic vandals that Screecher Norman now fronts too :)

[nztx]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/a/nz-news/350327590/reasons-golriz-ghahraman-failed-escape-conviction-revealed

Reasons Golriz Ghahraman failed to escape conviction revealed



Former Green MP Golriz Ghahraman’s mental health contributed to the shoplifting she admitted but was not a causative factor, a judge has found.


Cresswell had submitted it would be difficult for Ghahraman to move on and return to working as a lawyer if she had a conviction entered against her name. Same with international travel and work.


“The future assessment into Ms Ghahraman’s fitness to practise is primarily triggered by her offending. The entry of the convictions will be a factor undoubtedly considered by the Law Society but not a determinative factor. The factors that would be considered by the Law Society extend well beyond the entry of a conviction.”


Darn .. The Lady Beak did not swallow all the BS Excuses for the shoplifting escapade .. that must of hurt :)

[iceman]

As if anyone can make sense of what the *itch Swarbrick was saying - what a freaking joke she is.

15 weeks into the investigation and this is the garbage which comes out of her mouth :

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2024/07/green-co-leader-chl-e-swarbrick-looking-forward-to-unpacking-darleen-tana-investigation.html

"I am really looking forward to unpacking this with all of the due public scrutiny and accountability when this investigation and its independent expertise is concluded," she said.

"It is in no one's interest to open that can of worms, and therefore put a finger on the scale such that we end up with anything less than robust conclusions which I can then make robust decisions upon."

The Greens are utterly corrupt https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/115-days-green-mp-darleen-tana-spends-half-her-political-career-suspended/QXJ2RQEMGVCM5PDXPGL4H2Q66U/

[Daytr]

The Greens are utterly corrupt https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/115-days-green-mp-darleen-tana-spends-half-her-political-career-suspended/QXJ2RQEMGVCM5PDXPGL4H2Q66U/

Yeah its ridiculous how long the investigation is taking.
The only legitimate excuse could be is if they have found more to investigate, but I think that's unlikely.

[Balance]

The Greens are utterly corrupt https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/115-days-green-mp-darleen-tana-spends-half-her-political-career-suspended/QXJ2RQEMGVCM5PDXPGL4H2Q66U/

So typical of the parasite breeders of the woke left - other people's monies to be used freely and with no accountability.

Darleen Tana - migrant/worker exploiter, tax evader, covid rules breacher, liar - just some of the allegations she is being investigated for arising from her actions!

And as Golriz has shown, steal if need be.

Wonder if Tana will claim mental health as her excuse too?

[Entrep]

3 MPs out of only 15(?) gone.

This a party that is rotten to the core. No surprises there though, with Marama Mugabe at the helm.

Who's next to go?

Investigative journalists should be all over each and every one of these parasites. This isn't the last "incident".

NZ taxpayers deserve to know the full extent of it.

[Getty]

She's no darling that Darleen.

She transgressed, and the taxpayers get fined 115 days pay to date!

Did she show similar consideration to her staff during disputes???

[Balance]

She's no darling that Darleen.

She transgressed, and the taxpayers get fined 115 days pay to date!

Did she show similar consideration to her staff during disputes???

She is but another Green hypocrite exposed for the fraud and hypocrite she really is - just like the others exposed to date.

[whatsup]

What did Tana do for a job before she wormed her way into parliament ?

[Daytr]

What did Tana do for a job before she wormed her way into parliament ?

LOL, I think that's what they are investigating.
Before then she was based in Belgium for most of her adult life.

[winner69]

This seems rather odd behaviour from Swarbrick if not disgusting …seems legit

https://x.com/suitandtie9999/status/1810159950452392086?s=61&t=iHjDYVMfLj1Ccl5JFHMPjA

[Getty]

Now now Darleen.

Don't get toey with Chloe now she gives you a get goey!

You say natural justice wasn't followed?

You mean they
gave you the sack, made out of nylon instead of jute?

[tim23]

3 MPs out of only 15(?) gone.

This a party that is rotten to the core. No surprises there though, with Marama Mugabe at the helm.

Who's next to go?

Investigative journalists should be all over each and every one of these parasites. This isn't the last "incident".

NZ taxpayers deserve to know the full extent of it.
I’m no Greens supporter I find them hypocritical but why do you resort to using silly names for people? It’s childish and pathetic.

[causecelebre]

SSo swarbrick comes out and asks us not to conflate the emerald manikins issues involving Tana and others with the death of Collins. How can she possibly use his death to garner sympathy. This woman is so morally corrupt I cannot fathom it.

[ynot]

SSo swarbrick comes out and asks us not to conflate the emerald manikins issues involving Tana and others with the death of Collins. How can she possibly use his death to garner sympathy. This woman is so morally corrupt I cannot fathom it.

She lives in a fantasy world. It's not reality. Unfortunately the system fuels her dream. Strange old world.

[dln]

She's no darling that Darleen.

She transgressed, and the taxpayers get fined 115 days pay to date!

Did she show similar consideration to her staff during disputes???

Just use the excuse "It's my husband's business" ... worked well for Judith.

[Balance]

Just use the excuse "It's my husband's business" ... worked well for Judith.

BS - garbage as usual from you.

Judith admitted attending a dinner in China hosted by Oravida where her husband was a director. It certainly helped Oravida exported more dairy products to China.

Compare and contrast that with Tana involvement in migrant/worker exploitation, tax evasion, beaching Covid rules and lying to her fellow MPs.

[Balance]

More colour on Tana’s despicable behaviour - and still lying and crying innocence about her role.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350336049/justice-migrant-whistleblowers-speak-out-after-damning-darleen-tana-findings

“ …. Darleen and Christian changed their stories and were making information up: it was pretty damning of them.

…. Christian and Darleen are both so narcissistic and good liars they can get people to believe just about anything.”

[Daytr]

The Greens have an easy out if they want it.
They could say Waka jumping doesn't apply if just an agreement on policy or personality but can and should be used if it's more sinister or criminal behaviour is involved.

Personally I think any list MP should lose their position automatically when they are no longer party of the party that appointed them.

Electorate MPs is a different story as the electorate specifically voted them in.

[Balance]

More colour on Tana’s despicable behaviour - and still lying and crying innocence about her role.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/350336049/justice-migrant-whistleblowers-speak-out-after-damning-darleen-tana-findings

“ …. Darleen and Christian changed their stories and were making information up: it was pretty damning of them.

…. Christian and Darleen are both so narcissistic and good liars they can get people to believe just about anything.”

Hypocrisy from Swarbrick on full display - what happened to their championing of migrants' & workers' rights?

Swarbrick said “our preference as Co-Leaders has always been for full transparency and the release of the report, but we also recognize the need to follow good practice around privacy law.” The Party has contacted all parties named in the Executive Summary of the report regarding their privacy interests, with the intention of releasing the summary as soon as practicably possible.

Responding to a Green Party announcement that Darleen Tana has been asked to resign, Taxpayers’ Union Policy and Public Affairs Manager, James Ross, said: “Public funds were used to pay for the report, and so the public have a right to see what’s in it. It’s as simple as that.

“Taxpayers have also been on the hook for Tana’s salary to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars as this investigation dragged on for month after month. The public need to know why the facts took so long to dig up, so taxpayers’ money won’t be wasted like this again.

“Ms Swarbrick claims the Greens punch well above their weight in holding the powerful to account. Now’s their chance to put their money where their mouth is and let the public hold them accountable.”

[Balance]

Hope Tana stays on in Parliament and extract maximum collateral damage on the Greens, especially the two hypocrites Davidson & Swarbrick.

How delicious to think of that as a possibility!

“She refused to say if the party would look to invoke the waka jumping provision to try and force Tana from Parliament. Instead, she issued a plea to Tana: “Please resign to minimise the collateral damage”.

If Tana chooses to try and stay in Parliament, Swarbrick said the party would meet to decide whether to invoke the waka jumping law and expel her.”

But wait, there’s more :

“The Greens are kind of snookered here, because they have vociferously opposed the waka- jumping legislation at every set.

For them to suddenly invoke the legislation would be hypocritical and require them to swallow a very large vegan rat…oh wait! They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

Of course she could always resort to the standard left-wing excuse for appalling behaviour: previously un-diagnosed mental health issues.”

[nztx]

Hope Tana stays on in Parliament and extract maximum collateral damage on the Greens, especially the two hypocrites Davidson & Swarbrick.

How delicious to think of that as a possibility!

“She refused to say if the party would look to invoke the waka jumping provision to try and force Tana from Parliament. Instead, she issued a plea to Tana: “Please resign to minimise the collateral damage”.

If Tana chooses to try and stay in Parliament, Swarbrick said the party would meet to decide whether to invoke the waka jumping law and expel her.”

But wait, there’s more :

“The Greens are kind of snookered here, because they have vociferously opposed the waka- jumping legislation at every set.

For them to suddenly invoke the legislation would be hypocritical and require them to swallow a very large vegan rat…oh wait! They are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

Of course she could always resort to the standard left-wing excuse for appalling behaviour: previously un-diagnosed mental health issues.”


Chloe got un-diagnosed mental health issues too ? :)

What a Curious Leadership pair of halfwits shepherding the lost Green Sheep ..

James of many degrees appears to have been the most intelligent of the mob leaping over the wall to freedom ..

[Balance]

Getting ready to swallow the dead vegan rat is Chloe.

“From Wellington to Ponsonby, our MPs eat for free!”

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/521638/mp-darleen-tana-greens-will-have-sensitive-talks-on-invoking-waka-jumping-rule

What a *itch!

[Bill Smith]

Tana may as well stay as an MP until the next election. If se resigns, we just get the next idiot on the greens list. At least with Tana, we know (via Cloe) that she is a liar. Who knows what undesirable traits the next on the greens list will have?

[tim23]

Just use the excuse "It's my husband's business" ... worked well for Judith.

Nice call - too true