CER Certified-organics [Archive] - Page 2

ari

27-02-2006, 05:14 PM

Thought this may have been posted here by now, although it's not really just not one of those companies......[|)]

quote:CER
27/02/2006GENERAL
FLLYR

REL: 1307 HRS Certified Organics Limited

FLLYR: CER: 2005 Full Year Audited Preliminary Results

CERTIFIED ORGANICS UPS SALES, IMPROVES MARGINS AND GENERATES CASH

Certified Organics continued to make progress towards profitable trading in
more than doubling revenue and reducing its net deficit by a quarter for the
year ended 31 December 2005.

The audited net deficit was $1.031 million, a 23% improvement on the previous
year. The deficit included amortization charges of $704,000 ($561,000 last
year).

Group sales revenue grew 276% to $3.3 million for the year. The Group made
solid progress in the past 12 months, and the benefits of business
restructuring and investment in the New Zealand Nature business flowed
through to the financial statements.

As a consequence the Group's cash flow was positive for the four months
following the acquisition, placing Certified Organics in a strong position as
it plans for the future.

Certified Organics' weed killer business enjoyed strong results over the past
year in both the New Zealand commercial agricultural sector and in Australia.

There has been a significant improvement in the margin of the Interceptor
business through a focus on commercial agricultural and specialist government
bio-hazard projects. These are areas where our product range is highly valued
and continues to provide business development opportunities.

Sales in New Zealand Nature have started 2006 ahead of last year and the
business looks set for a strong contribution in its first full year as part
of the Group.

Base Trader

08-03-2006, 06:15 AM

I almost forgot to give CER a serve.

Quite a spectacular result in that it only turned a loss in 1 in every 3 dollars of revenue generated - much improved on 2004 1:1 ratio. Cash loss was not as bad but considering it buys patents and marketing assets – the loss is real. Shareholders cash is being turned to dust.

I will not waste anymore time on it. There are far better punts than this doomed Company.

whatsup

20-03-2006, 10:36 AM

Ann today looks promising!! against the tide I must say .

transmuter

20-03-2006, 12:45 PM

CER up 18% in morning trade, volume of 325k on the back of a $1m contract with the SA govt. Interesting that this is a repeat order after initial trials and that it surpasses last years value of sales for organic interceptor.

easy money

16-05-2006, 09:25 PM

INTERESTING meeting today...talk of profit this year...nice one

Nigel

04-07-2006, 06:12 PM

EM, what was said at the AGM? I don't normally look at companies such as CER, but what I have read suggests that they might have got themselves sorted out. Contracts from Australia have increased sales and their first profit is forecast for this year. Perhaps they have turned the corner. What is the Market Cap for this company? ASB Securities says 5.1mil - if so, this seems cheap. Might be worth a speculative punt. I also see that once 4c is broken there aren't many sellers for a while. I will continue to watch with some interest.

easy money

04-07-2006, 09:05 PM

WELL NIGEL..mkt cap at 5.8m(not including options)which compares well with boz and blt..have picked up some more in recent days..good buying i believe...there will be a greater push into the commercial mkt in aust this year...also talk of a possible merger/aqquistion of an aus company as well..a push into the USA may only be a year away now..I must stress nigel that the best gains to be had from this stock will be to buy and hold..plenty of posters hate this stock...a good buy signal...www.certifiedorganics.co.nz

Nigel

04-07-2006, 10:21 PM

that website hasn't been updated for a while by the looks of it. although i liked the australian site for organic interceptor.

zyreon

05-07-2006, 02:31 PM

interesting to see in the 05 financial statements that warrick still thinks he's worth 200k.

interesting remuneration system... large losses and large salary.

well at least you know where the money from the rights issues is going.

cloggs

05-07-2006, 05:36 PM

Nigel, why don't you have a read of the thread: 'A magnificent obsession', you'll find it a few threads below this one. It will put you right on this stock, and on the advice you're receiving.

trackers

06-07-2006, 01:29 AM

quote:plenty of posters hate this stock...a good buy signal...www.certifiedorganics.co.nz

Yep, noone wants it; thats definitely a buy signal in my book!

marinesalvor

06-07-2006, 08:21 AM

Zyreon - remember the early days when Earl S as CEO was pulling down one of the largest salaries in any listed company!!!

duncan macgregor

06-07-2006, 09:36 AM

quote:Originally posted by duncan macgregor

C_MON guys This and WDT look them up do a bit of home work, then come back and tell me what they have in common. I strongly suggest if you have shares in either to get out quick. Three questions to ask yourselves.
1 How much do management pay themselves.
2 Why after all this time still bleeding you lot
3 A successfull start up business requires common sense and sacrifice, they do and have neither.
I will be very happy for you lot if i get proved wrong, Heres hoping MACDUNK

That is what i said a couple of years ago has anything changed?.

Panic E-Button

06-07-2006, 12:32 PM

pssst, I hate to think what may happen to my money if I buy this one. Just for 'good feeling' I'm not going to buy any of CER.
Big salaries can be taken from 'easy money'-(regular poster here) donation.
And good luck to others who may consider "low price" of this stock.

Nigel

07-07-2006, 06:34 PM

I see CER was up 18% today.

duncan macgregor

07-07-2006, 07:35 PM

quote:Originally posted by Nigel

I see CER was up 18% today.

Almost two years in a straight downtrend until the price rises an odd cent to give a 18 pc gain. It might only be a death through before it kicks out. macdunk

Phaedrus

07-07-2006, 08:39 PM

Nigel, CER buyers are currently offering 3.8 cents, sellers asking 4.5 cents. That's a Bid/Ask spread of over 18% right there.

This is a very lightly traded and very volatile stock. I have seen it rise 30% in a day and I have seen it fall 30% in a day. Keep in mind that CER has so far fallen over 2600% from its peak. For this stock, 18% movement is not out of the ordinary - and it was on a total turnover of just $18,400. A single sale going through at the Bid could reverse todays 0.7 cent rise.

ari

08-07-2006, 12:31 PM

quote:Keep in mind that CER has so far fallen over 2600% from its peak
I didn't need reminding! Need 2900% to break even, don't know whether to :D or :(

easy money

15-07-2006, 02:49 PM

HI all..just thought i would remind everyone that cer will be reporting its half year result soon....It would appear that the company will be reporting strong sales growth based on the sucsessful gains made by the broomrape program in aus not to mention the ongoing strength of the nz nature company...Fellow posters should be aware that the falling nz dollar is making a positive impact on the bottom line of cer...Once again i strongly urge all players to top up there holdings as i have done...This company will surprise on the upside this year...I can hardly wait.

sniper

15-07-2006, 04:55 PM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

if the stock stays low..will buy more..results from the broomrape test in aus will be out before christmas..i can hardly wait

From last year. Anyone follow this clown's ramp and made money? [^]

winner69

15-07-2006, 07:09 PM

...at last report mr easy money owned 1.4 million shares .... plus his recent top ups

top 20 shareholder .... maybe he does know something

easy money

15-07-2006, 07:11 PM

The broomrape program in sth australia will be quite a money spinner for cer..there is also interest from around the world in the product cer is useing to control this noxious weed which will open up new markets for cer

Bling_Bling

15-07-2006, 08:18 PM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

The broomrape program in sth australia will be quite a money spinner for cer..there is also interest from around the world in the product cer is useing to control this noxious weed which will open up new markets for cer

That story has done the rounds so many times and for so long that it is getting very smelly indeed .. LOL. Woof woof

easy money

15-07-2006, 08:53 PM

hi bling....if you take a closer look at this company you will see that things are happening...remember to keep your mind open.

barnsley bill

15-07-2006, 09:03 PM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

hi bling....if you take a closer look at this company you will see that things are happening...remember to keep your mind open.

Unfortunately your blatant ramping of powerbeat will probably make most people do the complete opposite of anything you suggest

easy money

15-07-2006, 09:11 PM

more fool them

Flying Goat

15-07-2006, 11:48 PM

quote:Originally posted by winner69

...at last report mr easy money owned 1.4 million shares .... plus his recent top ups

top 20 shareholder .... maybe he does know something

If someone (aka easy money) does indeed own 1.4 million shares in the company, then of course they will be compelled to talk up their prospects. I am willing to place my stake in the ground with the following statement: "This company will never break even" This may sound cynical and I hope I am wrong, but am just basing it on the facts. I attended the Annual General Meeting this year, the largest shareholders (the couple who sold the NZ Nature business for shares and cash) posed the question, how much Organic Interceptor needs to be sold in order for the company to break even? The answer was above $2 million and despite all the optimistic talk the business model appears to be highly flawed. Furthermore, the directors sat before the shareholders (many of whom have lost a large portion of their retirment savings investing in this company) and tried to pass an increase in directors fees to a level above that of the avergae Carter Holt Harvey Director... keeping in mind that the business is making less (infact it has reported only loss after loss) and turning over significantly less than the average four square in a Provincial NZ town, now call me a cynic but I think that if you asked Mr Patel if he thought that paying 4 directors $185,000 (split among them) for showing up at 12 meetings per year to help guide the business, he would think you were having a laugh..! Furhtermore, Roger Gower had the audacity to say that "they he, and the others needed to be remunerated because they were taking the risks" - keeping in mind that he was speaking to the business owners, mainly pensioners who had lost over 90% of their own money in the business I would suggest that it is infact the shareholders who have born the "risk" - upon returning from the meeting I swiftly disposed of remaining shares at around 5.5 cents which as it turns out was lucky as they are now sitting about 30% below that with a strong lack of buyers. Sorry about the bitter and twisted sounding post, but statistics show that how far a business flies in its first year will in determine its success in future in the majority of cases... and this one just seems to keep landing flat on its face. I would be happy for someone to reply to this in one year and tell me I was way off the mark... only time will tell.

FG

duncan macgregor

16-07-2006, 08:48 AM

quote:Originally posted by duncan macgregor

C_MON guys This and WDT look them up do a bit of home work, then come back and tell me what they have in common. I strongly suggest if you have shares in either to get out quick. Three questions to ask yourselves.
1 How much do management pay themselves.
2 Why after all this time still bleeding you lot
3 A successfull start up business requires common sense and sacrifice, they do and have neither.
I will be very happy for you lot if i get proved wrong, Heres hoping MACDUNK

FLYING GOAT, I see you are on to it. Thats what i said 2 yrs ago nothing has changed. macdunk

easy money

16-07-2006, 09:54 AM

Hi balance...CER has got a great future..once registration is complete new markets will open up in japan,usa and europe for the organic interceptor weed spray...these are huge markets for CER.

duncan macgregor

17-07-2006, 09:17 AM

quote:Originally posted by Balance

Easy money, good on you for bringing CER and your involvement to this forum's attention.

The world needs people like you to put everything else into perspective - the kind of people like you who crawl out of dark places with slime and faeces dripping off them as they try and worm their way around others.

The sunlight is a bit harsh, isn't it?

Easy money has every right to express his opinion without having to put up with childish rubbish like this. macdunk

Flying Goat

17-07-2006, 07:52 PM

quote:Originally posted by duncan macgregor

quote:Originally posted by duncan macgregor

C_MON guys This and WDT look them up do a bit of home work, then come back and tell me what they have in common. I strongly suggest if you have shares in either to get out quick. Three questions to ask yourselves.
1 How much do management pay themselves.
2 Why after all this time still bleeding you lot
3 A successfull start up business requires common sense and sacrifice, they do and have neither.
I will be very happy for you lot if i get proved wrong, Heres hoping MACDUNK

FLYING GOAT, I see you are on to it. Thats what i said 2 yrs ago nothing has changed. macdunk

Indeed MacDunk, wish I had your foresight two years ago...! Personally I think the only way to salvage what little is left of shareholder value would be to sell off the IP for Organic Interceptor etc.. to a bigger company who know what they are doing, then focus on online sales of NZ products to the world market... because although NZ Nature turns a good profit, this money will only go feed Organic Interceptor's insatiable apetitite for continualy bleeding cash...

Snow Leopard

17-07-2006, 08:18 PM

As with every other company on the NZX (or anywhere) what is important about this company is the future. What has happened in the past is only important in that it places the company in the state it is now. Where it is going to is what you should base your decisions on.
CER Group, for that is it's current name, is a pretty small business of two unequal halves:
A successful catalogue/internet company which makes a reasonable profit.
An organic weedkiller supplier, where the organic bit is regarded as unimportant by it's few customers, that has historically failed to cover it's costs and has little market penetration.

Looking to the future:
Dump (or sell) the weed killer bit, in which case you have a company worth a few more cents than it currently trades at
Keep the weed killer and subsidise it's losses with the NZ Nature catalogue until either
the management gives up on killing weeds (so see above)or
there is a weed killing sales (and profit) break through.

Intriguing possibilities? Could go nowhere fast for many years yet.

I do not have and currently have no intention what-so-ever of investing a wooden nickel (http://www.wooden-nickel.com/) in CER, but, I can see that maybe there is more upside than downside.

Discs:
Regard CER as a speccy.
Do not understand why the NZ Nature people sold to CER.
Post this to point out that the future is what is coming and a good investor/trader needs, primarily, to look in that direction.
Learn from your mistakes. (CER is not one of mine)

ari

18-07-2006, 10:42 AM

And...what happened to the organic shampoo. One pallet load exported to Aussie back in '03. It was either so good that it fixed the Aussie lice prob. or they still have lice:)

IcedPaladin

18-07-2006, 04:35 PM

quote:Originally posted by ari

And...what happened to the organic shampoo. One pallet load exported to Aussie back in '03. It was either so good that it fixed the Aussie lice prob. or they still have lice:)

All this large investor had to do was have a look at market depth.

Easy Moneys reccommendations are long term.

Still bullish about the late CSG EM?

Now MWS.

easy money

13-09-2006, 07:58 PM

OH DEAR....more good news from cer

Snow Leopard

13-09-2006, 08:05 PM

Oh? Where?

I read it as "We have recently bought this bit that makes money and are pouring the profits it's makes down the drain of the other bit that continues to loose money".

zyreon

13-09-2006, 08:22 PM

yeah 405% increase in sales revenue, loss -only- $-234,000 vs $-325,000

outstanding

at this rate only need to increase sales another 600% and maybe they'll breakeven [:o)]

easy money

13-09-2006, 09:48 PM

you make me laugh....more good news to follow...for sure

easy money

15-09-2006, 09:36 PM

NICE update on there website....the www.biosgroup.com.au site looks interesting...

Snow Leopard

15-09-2006, 10:05 PM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

NICE update on there website....the www.biosgroup.com.au site looks interesting...

1) it is their not there
2) The website for CER is http://www.certified-organics.com/

easy money

17-09-2006, 09:22 AM

glad to see you had a look at thease sites...the comments being made on the cer home page are very positive suggesting strong growth in the near future....fellow posters might want to take a closer look at this growing company

IcedPaladin

17-09-2006, 03:34 PM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

glad to see you had a look at thease sites...the comments being made on the cer home page are very positive suggesting strong growth in the near future....fellow posters might want to take a closer look at this growing company

Heard it all before EM.
Your last three recommendations CER CSG ARU

Do you still hold MDS news the fall out of CSG?

easy money

30-10-2006, 01:23 PM

SHARE PRICE has picked up...the tide has turned for this stock

duncan macgregor

30-10-2006, 01:39 PM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

SHARE PRICE has picked up...the tide has turned for this stock

KING CANUTE had a similar idea about tides and went under.
Only joking easy money SORRY[:o)]:Dmacdunk

whatsup

30-10-2006, 02:37 PM

Easy money there is no easy money for you or anyone else in CER or Powerbleat!!!!

minimoke

30-10-2006, 03:58 PM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

SHARE PRICE has picked up...the tide has turned for this stock

$4,500 across four trades – the big spenders are out in force today!

easy money

14-11-2006, 08:58 PM

had a look at the latest report from cer today...quote..."the board sees that this peformance this year will provide the group with a firm base from which to drive further growth in both these businesses in the next year"...sounds like full steam ahead...:)

easy money

06-12-2006, 05:13 PM

AND more good news out today....overseas expansion offers cer plenty of growth prospects

Nevl

06-12-2006, 06:38 PM

Would be good to see some profit. Have got some options as a high risk play. But until the weedkiller takes off it is just going to be slow growth from NZ nature. Still it wont go bust and has a nice steady revenue to leverage off.

Needs to get Europe up and runing too.

minimoke

08-12-2006, 02:15 PM

Looked at CER at IPO and wasn’t interested then when Roundup was pretty much the only other weed killer available – at a much less price. Went to Placemakers yesterday and they have a BIG range of napalm and targeted killers including 20l of Interceptor. Me thinks any opportunity is well gone now.

As for NZ Nature – they are in a saturated market and what is it with selling silk? Not really a natural NZ resource!

easy money

13-12-2006, 07:33 PM

HEAVY buying this week..it would appear that this stock is being rerated upwards...this come as no surprise given the growth prospects for cer.

Torrero

13-12-2006, 07:36 PM

what do the more senior members of the forum feel for the stock.... would be keen for there insight

Base Trader

14-12-2006, 03:31 AM

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands. (Douglas Adams)

CER barks.

They do not make money and they continue to roll out a load of old tripe how their "future is very bright in that combination of specialist niches of commercial agriculture and horticulture, and biosecurity, to which we can sell directly where characteristics (current and prospective) of our pine based control producst will attaract a real premium and provide a genuinely exciting return".

They have taken this path after an undertaking "to codify the aims of the CER group overall" (all quotes from their June 2006 report).

What a load of Mumbojumbo.

I think it remains incumbant upon investors to atleast consider that a company that has been a miserable failure (well atleast in terms of a little thing called profitability) so far this millenium may struggle to break its duck.

Bling_Bling

14-12-2006, 08:08 AM

Once bidden twice shy. Is that how it is said? Anyway, price movements in the short term does not represent long term fundamentals. You only need to look at PLS as an example.

zyreon

14-12-2006, 08:40 AM

you might be able to make a short term profit from the bigger fool theory, but for me that ship sailed after it went above 4 cents, too risky now.

i agree, they have a floundering organic weed killer business that would eventually have gone under if it wasn't for the new business they bought - good money after bad.
And yeah every day is a great day say the management; they come out and say they're making global progress, establishing ventures in asia, breaking into markets in south america, and getting regulatory approval in EU - when it amounts to a holiday in asia, a mail order to chile, and 5 years of hoop jumping in EU. Not only are they stretching the truth, they're shooting themselves in the foot, you don't go running around every market like a madman, you take a methodical focused approach - get one market presence fully established, then move onto the next one etc

One thing I've noticed repeatedly amongst the micro or nano caps is that they rarely make a profit, sure the business idea might be good or novel, but you look at the financials and there hasn't been a single profit, and for the most part there never will be. But again, it depends on your approach - if you can find a bigger fool then by all means take a punt, and maybe you can make a short-term profit, but if you're after a quality business then for goodness sake make sure there's at least some history of profitability.

BRICKS

14-12-2006, 09:17 AM

COME on boy/girls of NEW ZEALAND this is good moaning material get stuck in to it and better it don't cost money only talk,, so VECTOR is the BUY.. [8D]

IcedPaladin

30-12-2006, 05:57 PM

Had a look at google generated research into the CER today.
It has been accepted by academics at Adelaide university that drenching the soil with 1000 litres of eradicator to 20000 litres of water will kill the seeds of broomrape.

The problem no water.

However EM I have stuck by your recommendation and selected CER in the share pickong comp

IcedPaladin

30-12-2006, 05:59 PM

quote:Originally posted by IcedPaladin

Had a look at google generated research into the CER today.
It has been accepted by academics at Adelaide university that drenching the soil with 1000 litres of eradicator to 20000 litres of water will kill the seeds of broomrape.

The problem no water.

However EM I have stuck by your recommendation and selected CER in the share picking competition again

IcedPaladin

30-12-2006, 06:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by easy money

if the stock stays low..will buy more..results from the broomrape test in aus will be out before christmas..i can hardly wait
[/q

Im waiting

metro

30-12-2006, 06:39 PM

this stock was a top performer (if not the best!) during December up 38.10% in just one month. Opened the month at 0.042 and closed at 0.058 a return of 38.10%

Disc: hold none :(

IcedPaladin

30-12-2006, 06:53 PM

quote:Originally posted by metro

this stock was a top performer (if not the best!) during December up 38.10% in just one month. Opened the month at 0.042 and closed at 0.058 a return of 38.10%

Disc: hold none :(
Oh that will be Easy Money loading up for the announcement hes been waiting for since xmas 2004

IcedPaladin

09-01-2007, 04:13 PM

Hey Easy Money What do you know that we dont?

Good % gains today CER and CEROA

IcedPaladin

09-01-2007, 04:14 PM

Hey Easy Money What do you know that we dont?

Good % gains today CER and CEROA

IcedPaladin

10-01-2007, 01:10 PM

Looking good today as well. Head shares up 5% good volume.
CEROA havent moved as yet.
Exercise price 0.075 cents July 2009 trading at 0.025

IcedPaladin

10-01-2007, 01:30 PM

[quote]Originally posted by IcedPaladin

Looking good today as well. Head shares up 5% good volume.
CEROA havent moved as yet.
Exercise price 0.075 cents July 2009 trading at 0.025
Good buy support, no sellers with more than 80k shares

IcedPaladin

11-01-2007, 11:05 AM

Weve got lift off. Its two years since you reccommended this company to me EM My faih in you has been restored.

CER over 8cents wow.
Those options are lookin good to bud CEROA Well done you picked those in the comp as well You guru U

IcedPaladin

11-01-2007, 11:14 AM

quote:Originally posted by IcedPaladin

Weve got lift off. Its two years since you reccommended this company to me EM My faith in you has been restored.

CER over 8cents wow.
Those options are lookin good to bud CEROA Well done you picked those in the comp as well You guru U

IcedPaladin

12-01-2007, 10:24 AM

Speeding ticket issued.

End of Feb first profit for the company.

What a bargahn

IcedPaladin

12-01-2007, 10:35 AM

CEROA 10000 available @0.033 Who would ever sell at that price exercise 0.075 09/09 two years nine months of profits for the company

IcedPaladin

15-01-2007, 03:26 PM

If the options expire in October 2009 Thats two years 9 months The exercise price 7.5 cents.

Are they really worth 3 cents when the head share is currently 8.5cents

Steve

15-01-2007, 03:32 PM

quote:Originally posted by IcedPaladin

If the options expire in October 2009 Thats two years 9 months The exercise price 7.5 cents.

Are they really worth 3 cents when the head share is currently 8.5cents

The market currently says YES!

IcedPaladin

15-01-2007, 04:19 PM

No the correct answer was 3.6cents

Albert

15-01-2007, 05:02 PM

Don't other people get the feeling that this share is being ramped??? There are some warning signs there with some people in the background.

Disc: Hold none at this stage but are in my picks.

IcedPaladin

16-01-2007, 07:57 PM

Albert how can you come to the conclusion CER and CEROA are being ramped.
There is so little buy and sell volume and the shares have been going up since early December.
It has been made quite clear by management in their announcements that the company in all probability will turn a profit for the first time for the full 2006 year.
The announcement is due out in the last week of February Of course the share price is going up.
Share prices will only go up on good news eh?

ari

30-01-2007, 05:43 PM

QUARTER: CER: 2006 SALES REVENUE A RECORD FOR CER GROUP

2006 SALES REVENUE A RECORD FOR CER GROUP

- CER Group 2006 sales up 86% on 2005
- Expanding international commercial markets for Certified Organics
- Strong festive season for New Zealand Nature

Strong sales performances from Certified Organics and New Zealand Nature saw
CER Group end 2006 with record sales revenue of $6.2 million, up 86% on 2005.

2006 was a successful year for both of CER Group's operating businesses.
Certified Organics achieved significant momentum for its Bio Weedkiller
product in offshore markets, while New Zealand Nature performed above
expectations in its first full year within the Group.

Total full year 2006 sales revenue for Certified Organics was up 67.8% to
$1.46 million.

Certified Organics completed its first shipment of product to the Americas.
Commercial markets in this region hold considerable potential for the
Company, because the genuine organic nature of its products is increasingly
valued by the likes of produce growers who supply into the rapidly-growing
North American organic produce market. The business has been awarded a market
development grant from New Zealand Trade and Enterprise to establish a sales
office in California.

New Zealand Nature Company's excellent performance continued with strong and
consistent sales revenue throughout the year. 2006 sales revenues totaled
$4.7 million, representing a 93.4% increase over 2005, in which New Zealand
Nature contributed to CER Group's results for the final four months. On a
like-for-like basis the business grew its sales a very encouraging 17.5% on
the full twelve months of 2005.

New Zealand Nature's e-commerce and catalogue business had a very positive
build up to the festive period and recorded sales revenue of $2.63 million,
up from $2.2 million for the same quarter in 2005. The business moved into a
new Nelson-based facility, providing increased distribution and storage
improved networks.

It is anticipated that the full financial year announcement will be made in
late February.

IcedPaladin

30-01-2007, 06:01 PM

Yes it just keeps getting better and better.

This stock is due to be rerated after profit announcement end of February if not before.

Mr D C

31-01-2007, 08:36 AM

There has been lots of talk of a NPAT for FY, has any one got a inkling to what this may be based on revenue of 6.2m?

Steve

31-01-2007, 12:56 PM

quote:Originally posted by Mr D C

There has been lots of talk of a NPAT for FY, has any one got a inkling to what this may be based on revenue of 6.2m?

My guess is $1.00 bottom line[:p]

Disc: have minimum holding of 2,000 shares

IcedPaladin

31-01-2007, 01:39 PM

They have 152,835,033 shares on issue.
Market cap $13,449,483.

They are well into an upward trend just achiving a profit would be a major milestone.

Steve

20-02-2007, 03:09 PM

The followers of CER should be pleased to know that the Dunedin City Council is currently undertaking a scheduled spraying of OI.

How I just love walking the streets laced with the scent of pine...

IcedPaladin

20-02-2007, 09:48 PM

Hey Steve I got those CEROA at 2.5 hehehe Not big volume But Sweet:)

easy money

11-04-2007, 08:51 PM

CER have recently appointed Robert Levison to the board...this is a smart move..Mr levison has done some good work in aus..share price moving up...

IcedPaladin

12-04-2007, 09:23 AM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

CER have recently appointed Robert Levison to the board...this is a smart move..Mr levison has done some good work in aus..share price moving up...
Hey good to see you back bud!

Its such a dissappointing stock eh all the promises in the world.

Anyway just what was their profit for the 2006 year I was confused

easy money

25-04-2007, 05:30 PM

Interesting interview wih managing directer David Warrick on www.brr.co.nz/partner/smallcaps he sounds very bullish on the prospects for CER.

IcedPaladin

27-04-2007, 08:07 AM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

Interesting interview wih managing directer David Warrick on www.brr.co.nz/partner/smallcaps he sounds very bullish on the prospects for CER.

Hi EM I was just wondering who is underwriting this SPP.
Whats happened with the Broomrape trials I been looking forward to hearing the results Then we will see a surge in share price yipeee

ari

07-05-2007, 09:43 PM

So IP, you'll be taking up the max. 70,000 shares then?:)

easy money

13-05-2007, 05:10 PM

Sales for NZ Nature up 25% despite the rising dollar..Looks like a winner for CER.www.cer.co.nz

easy money

20-05-2007, 12:51 PM

Had a look at the updated website for the bioweed control...new products on the way..and I see that the branched-broomrape program must be going well..a $500.000 reorder has just been placed..the team at CER have been busy..www.cer.co.nz

ari

21-05-2007, 03:36 PM

quote:CER
21/05/2007
ASSET

REL: 1102 HRS CER Group Limited

ASSET: CER: CER SET TO ACQUIRE VRM GROUP OF COMPANIES

CER SET TO ACQUIRE VRM GROUP OF COMPANIES

Statement made by David Warrick, Managing Director, CER Group Limited

- CER signs heads of agreement to acquire the VRM (Vital Resource
Management) Group of Companies in Australia
- Brings market-leading company in rapidly growing industry into CER
Group
- Expected to grow CER's profit by A$1m in Year One and be earnings per
share positive
- Acquisition valued at A$4.8m

Might just pull out the share issue forms again:)

IcedPaladin

21-05-2007, 07:30 PM

quote:Originally posted by ari

So IP, you'll be taking up the max. 70,000 shares then?:)

Yes indeed[8D]

easy money

27-05-2007, 07:36 PM

interesting to note that CER are buying VRM on a pe ratio of only 4.8.... this sounds like good buying to me..another smart move by the management at CER..www.cer.co.nz

Lizard

27-05-2007, 07:52 PM

Perhaps even less if you take into account that the "P" in that ratio is based on CER shares issued at 10cps rather than current price of 8cps. Then again, the "E" isn't exactly concrete either, since it is based on forward projections of revenues and (favoured word of the corporate PR machine!) "synergies".

easy money

03-06-2007, 08:42 PM

Had a look at the annual report just released online..a lot of work has gone into this.. should be a good week for this stock...plenty of buyers and not many sellers...www.cer.co.nz

IcedPaladin

04-06-2007, 02:42 PM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

Had a look at the annual report just released online..a lot of work has gone into this.. should be a good week for this stock...plenty of buyers and not many sellers...www.cer.co.nz
[:0]So that means me & you arent sellors[:X]

Major von Tempsky

04-06-2007, 03:40 PM

Is there any truth to the rumour that Dr Earl Stevens is coming back on board fresh from his ICP-BIO total disaster? [:0]

bermuda

05-06-2007, 10:33 AM

Yes, but he has got a new broom.How CER has survived is beyond me.

ari

07-06-2007, 05:04 PM

quote:Yes, but he has got a new broom.How CER has survived is beyond me.

Me too, although I did take up the shares to try and recoup some of my previous HUGE losses. But in the back of my mind I still consider there to be a lot of BS rhetoric & some creative accounting;)

easy money

10-06-2007, 03:15 PM

Relax Ari.....CER Group advises that its share purchase plan aimed at raising $3.2m to further fuel the devolopment and growth of CER, has been comfortably over subscribed...It would appear that investors are lining up to get in.

Steve

13-06-2007, 07:55 AM

quote:Originally posted by easy money

Relax Ari.....CER Group advises that its share purchase plan aimed at raising $3.2m to further fuel the devolopment and growth of CER, has been comfortably over subscribed...It would appear that investors are lining up to get in.

Having a minimum holding in CER, I took up my entitlement as the shareprice was above the issue price and immediately flicked them off once allocated last wednesday for 8.6 retaining my minimum holding.

easy money

03-07-2007, 07:38 PM

The presence of Robert levison on the board is allready having a positive effect.Shareholders today approved the aqusition of VRM a company introduced to CER by Mr Levison.The success that this man has enjoyed with Industrea in Australia could well be replicated at CER.It would appear that VRM and other deals that may follow in the future could add considerable value to the CER group....Hang onto those shares Steve.

whatsup

23-07-2007, 11:07 AM

Have a quick look at CER ,slowly but surely building in price , looks like a new era.

IcedPaladin

23-07-2007, 02:10 PM

quote:Originally posted by Albert

Don't other people get the feeling that this share is being ramped??? There are some warning signs there with some people in the background.
Well I sincerely hope you got on.
You were warned

TOOT TOOT all aboard:D

Disc: Hold none at this stage but are in my picks.

easy money

06-08-2007, 09:06 PM

Managing directer Mr David Warrick today gave a very comprehensive overview of plans this company has for the future at today's agm.....Much progress has been made at Certified Organics and it would appear that this business is now in the black...Recently appointed executive directer Mr Robin Levison indicated that the VRM due dillagence was proceeding well and hinted that further aqqusitions could be forth coming in the near future...Plans being put in place for NZ Nature have the potential to deliver exponential growth in the future...The recent appointment of Mr Christopher Alpe is another feather in the cap for CER and should confirm to fellow posters that this company is going places...The years ahead represent exciting times for the CER Group...I'm looking forward to it.

easy money

10-10-2007, 12:15 PM

Any signs of a slow down in the economy have not been felt at CER....The company today announced 3rd qtr sales up 60%....Fellow posters looking for a growth stock would do well to place the CER group on there watch list...

kizame

10-10-2007, 02:31 PM

Totally agree Easy Money,looking forward to this.

rimu

10-10-2007, 08:53 PM

i was almost interested in this stock, until i looked at the nznature ecommerce site.

IcedPaladin

30-10-2007, 02:23 PM

Well you may now regret not getting on board.
So few sellers and heaps of buyers TooT TooT

kent

01-11-2007, 07:58 PM

I use to trade daily but now have 2 companies, one being CER and am happy with being 75.4% ahead. Although only need another 700% to break even from earlier days :o

easy money

14-11-2007, 07:27 PM

Nice to see Mr Davies come on board...

ari

15-11-2007, 07:11 AM

As long as the wage bill does'nt sink the company, it's getting pretty top heavy!

IcedPaladin

17-12-2007, 11:34 AM

Mr Davies after five weeks with the company has become chairman. He must see some potential somewhere. With a profile such as his

easy money

03-06-2008, 08:57 PM

Well sales are up...yet the share price is down...seems like NO one likes CER...time to get in....again.

Steve

04-06-2008, 02:44 PM

Well sales are up...yet the share price is down...seems like NO one likes CER...time to get in....again.

If CER is still burning the cash, then that could explain the declining shareprice despite the increase in sales...

tim23

04-06-2008, 08:23 PM

Steve - what drugs you on, up 25% in last 2 days?

spike

04-06-2008, 08:49 PM

They need to follow the increased sales with a profit before the share price stop floating around the 4-5 cent mark. In the beginning of the year they announced and increased in sales before they announced a loss after writing off some of the costs of the last purchase. Don't know if they will ever make much in the weed kill business but the other produces seam to be doing well. Top up some more a few weeks ago may get a few more. The question is did they make a profit?. I feel positive that they may of but they are know to disappoint. I guess we will know soon.

whatsup

29-12-2008, 03:13 PM

Looks like the VRM deal has fallen over, where to now for this has been , although there is some buying today, any ideas???????????

winner69

29-05-2009, 12:19 PM

hey whatsup .... whatsup with CER at the mo

easy money

16-11-2009, 09:14 PM

OKAY....so it looks likes nz nature is going to go private...CER ends up being a cashed up shell with a few million in the bank and some tax losses to boot...2010 could be an interesting year for this company.

emearg

16-11-2009, 10:41 PM

Well sales are up...yet the share price is down...seems like NO one likes CER...time to get in....again.

Are you still buying?

Anna Naum

17-11-2009, 08:01 AM

ari

11-12-2009, 04:46 PM

Well, well......now if sale of NZ Nature goes thru, what's left...'sweetfa' and that will probably go by way of bonuses!!!

kizame

11-12-2009, 06:57 PM

What a damn disaster waiting to happen this company is.
Having just finished with the last lot of disasters they are about embark on another disaster making spree. I spose they did grow nz nature a wee bit.

Please god,let them buy something normal that makes a profit,and can you run the business,cos you know what these guys will do to it.

ari

17-05-2010, 05:02 PM

So where to now for CER.....once a penny dreadful....still a penny d.........just worse!

emearg

17-05-2010, 07:47 PM

Mr Evans commented in one of last weeks business magazines how much he regrets becoming involved in CER. No need to read between the lines there! Frankly I don't blame him. The weedkiller was the only good thing to come out of this company, and once Australia dried up (literally) this company seemed to have no where to go. After water prices increased 10 fold in South Australia I decided to sell my shares in 2007. Lucky as it turns out as it was near the then high.

I hate to see good concepts mismanaged by a bunch of no hopers.

Such a pity :-(