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    Crown ElectroKinetics Corp. (CRKN) having a great run
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by causecelebre View Post
    Absolutely, the double taxation in Kiwisaver is a bit crap.
    Kiwisaver is totally crap. Like you say Oz super makes our super look like a tiddlywinks. I know their system is set up differently with means testing etc, but regardless they are light years ahead of us with old age funding. And they are investing in their economy at the same time. Double win for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by causecelebre View Post
    Nope, investing by nationalism. Now they have been found out now the tide has gone out. Sharesies, I believe, is partly (largely?) to blame for this. The amount of self interest in promoting the rights issue by Sharesies was deplorable if not outright criminal.
    The investors in every country have home market bias. That is quite natural. NZ has considerably less home market bias than some. It means that our companies have to rely more on the “kindness of strangers”! That all results in our small sharemarket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    Kiwisaver is totally crap. Like you say Oz super makes our super look like a tiddlywinks. I know their system is set up differently with means testing etc, but regardless they are light years ahead of us with old age funding. And they are investing in their economy at the same time. Double win for them.
    Many of the default providers are owned by aussie banks. Though the last govt tried to change the mix slightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValueNZ View Post
    Again I don't have much time to write much, but if anyone wasn't convinced of Robs world class capital allocation ability, here's your proof. What are quite likely to be the top 18 performing kiwisaver portfolios in the entire country over the last 3-5 years (not exactly sure of the time frame), are the direct results of Robs actions.
    You can invest in Smartshare ETFs via Superlife with much lower fees than Craigs (0.3-0.5%). US large growth has had annualised 5 year returns of 16.4% after fees and tax.

    With 199 components it would seem a wiser choice than investing in only one company even if that one company is similar to an ETF.
    Last edited by Jaa; 17-05-2024 at 03:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Many of the default providers are owned by aussie banks. Though the last govt tried to change the mix slightly.
    My point is the Oz super is far superior to ours. So many more investment vehicles, even real estate, tax advantages, better incentives like salary sacrificing , higher compulsory employer contribution, the list goes on. For Ausi's nearing retirement many have accumulated not insignificant super $$$$.

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    https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/m...arnings-season

    EBOS, Fph, Mft and Infratil are our truly international companies with American style returns. These companies can grow revenue year in year out.

    It's super difficult to argue with the maths in the article.

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    Dow closed above 40000. Onwards

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    My point is the Oz super is far superior to ours. So many more investment vehicles, even real estate, tax advantages, better incentives like salary sacrificing , higher compulsory employer contribution, the list goes on. For Ausi's nearing retirement many have accumulated not insignificant super $$$$.
    Muldoon saw dancing Communist Cossacks at the mention of a super scheme so we did not have as earlier a start to a super scheme as the Aussies. Then Labour’s socialist Cullen was instrumental in setting the KiwiSaver terms. I think he was reluctant to give too many tax advantages lest it would be seen as middle-class welfare. So we got a watered-down scheme, and many continued to use investor real estate as their main way to grow a tax-advantageous nest egg.

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    The super age was established at 65 in 1945. Only a select few lived that long.

    Now every man and his dog gets it as spare pocket money regardless of their income or health. Since there's three year elections it becomes a problem for someone else. Most politicians here think about their future knighthood and board position rather than the future of NZ.
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