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    🥱🥱🥱🥱are we there yet??

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-men View Post
    🥱🥱🥱🥱are we there yet??
    2040 is the name of the Game. Your 4000 shares will be looking good by then.

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    The retirement village sector in New Zealand is currently facing several challenges that have impacted the share prices of listed companies, such as Oceania Healthcare (OCA.NZ). Here's a breakdown of the key factors:


    1. **Economic Environment and High Debt Levels**: The retirement village sector is grappling with an inflationary economic environment that has significantly increased construction costs and affected the availability of materials due to supply chain disruptions. This has put pressure on the development of new facilities and expansions. Moreover, significant players in the sector have accrued substantial debt, which has become a concern amid rising interest rates and lower house price inflation. Companies like Ryman Healthcare, Arvida, and Oceania Healthcare have notably tripled their debt over the past five years, a factor that constrains their financial performance and affects investor sentiment【8†source】.


    2. **Regulatory Changes and Compliance Costs**: There are ongoing reviews and proposed reforms in the Retirement Villages Act that aim to improve fairness for residents by standardizing certain documents and increasing regulatory oversight. While these changes are designed to protect consumers, they may also introduce additional compliance burdens for operators, potentially stifling innovation and increasing operational costs. This regulatory uncertainty can lead to investor wariness, contributing to lower share prices【10†source】.


    3. **Supply and Demand Dynamics**: Although there is a growing demand for retirement village units due to an aging population, the sector struggles with supply issues. High construction costs, labor shortages, and regulatory hurdles have led to a projected shortfall in the number of units needed to meet future demand. This imbalance could pressure existing facilities and slow down the expansion plans of operators, affecting their growth prospects and thus their stock performance【9†source】.


    Overall, these factors combine to create a challenging environment for retirement village operators in New Zealand, impacting their financial stability and growth potential, which in turn affects their share prices on the stock market.


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    Debt clearly a big concern in these difficult economic times.

    One of the sources sighted was about the Retirement Villages Act review. Will be interesting to see where this lands. The gravy train whereby an operator can hold a departing resident's cash (in theory indefinitely under the current rules) interest free will most likely come to an end I think. The current rules are way too in favour of the operator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post

    One of the sources sighted was about the Retirement Villages Act review. Will be interesting to see where this lands. The gravy train whereby an operator can hold a departing resident's cash (in theory indefinitely under the current rules) interest free will most likely come to an end I think. The current rules are way too in favour of the operator.
    So your suggesting the float may not exist anymore and in fact operators will have to pay you interest. then indeed the gravy will have dried up
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    The retirement village sector in New Zealand is currently facing several challenges that have impacted the share prices of listed companies, such as Oceania Healthcare (OCA.NZ). Here's a breakdown of the key factors:


    1. **Economic Environment and High Debt Levels**: The retirement village sector is grappling with an inflationary economic environment that has significantly increased construction costs and affected the availability of materials due to supply chain disruptions. This has put pressure on the development of new facilities and expansions. Moreover, significant players in the sector have accrued substantial debt, which has become a concern amid rising interest rates and lower house price inflation. Companies like Ryman Healthcare, Arvida, and Oceania Healthcare have notably tripled their debt over the past five years, a factor that constrains their financial performance and affects investor sentiment【8†source】.


    2. **Regulatory Changes and Compliance Costs**: There are ongoing reviews and proposed reforms in the Retirement Villages Act that aim to improve fairness for residents by standardizing certain documents and increasing regulatory oversight. While these changes are designed to protect consumers, they may also introduce additional compliance burdens for operators, potentially stifling innovation and increasing operational costs. This regulatory uncertainty can lead to investor wariness, contributing to lower share prices【10†source】.


    3. **Supply and Demand Dynamics**: Although there is a growing demand for retirement village units due to an aging population, the sector struggles with supply issues. High construction costs, labor shortages, and regulatory hurdles have led to a projected shortfall in the number of units needed to meet future demand. This imbalance could pressure existing facilities and slow down the expansion plans of operators, affecting their growth prospects and thus their stock performance【9†source】.


    Overall, these factors combine to create a challenging environment for retirement village operators in New Zealand, impacting their financial stability and growth potential, which in turn affects their share prices on the stock market.


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    Debt clearly a big concern in these difficult economic times.

    One of the sources sighted was about the Retirement Villages Act review. Will be interesting to see where this lands. The gravy train whereby an operator can hold a departing resident's cash (in theory indefinitely under the current rules) interest free will most likely come to an end I think. The current rules are way too in favour of the operator.
    I think the Government will be very careful not to overly constrain an industry that has supplied a large amount of very necessary housing let alone supplying care facilities for the elderly that the Government doesn't want a bar of.

    What I expect to see is demand for more transparency.

    Ultimately this is a demand & supply situation that the Government cannot fill. Anyway the proof will be in the pudding.

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    Here we go sailor moon...U can buy all this dog sheet at 54c...

    What the management does? Fuk all ...all laughing at U...

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-men View Post
    Here we go sailor moon...U can buy all this dog sheet at 54c...

    What the management does? Fuk all ...all laughing at U...
    yes sadly the realities of the current situation. many on here do not understand how even a flat property market with rising costs can lead to disaster for these operations. and yes sadly the float even though it is relatively stable does not guarantee survival.

    All bets off on these operations if there is a further down turn in the property market.
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    Better off to delist or merge with arvida... shareholders still get paid 65c...a share...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    yes sadly the realities of the current situation. many on here do not understand how even a flat property market with rising costs can lead to disaster for these operations. and yes sadly the float even though it is relatively stable does not guarantee survival.

    All bets off on these operations if there is a further down turn in the property market.
    Certainly a few things to be mindful of when looking to invest in this sector right now.

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    In addition to the economic pressures, regulatory challenges, and supply constraints, there are a few other issues that the retirement village sector in New Zealand faces:

    1. **Demographic Shifts**: While the aging population does drive demand, demographic shifts also present challenges. For example, the preferences and expectations of new generations of retirees may differ significantly from previous ones, influencing the types of services and facilities required. Adapting to these changing demands while maintaining profitability can be challenging for retirement village operators.

    2. **Labor Shortages**: The sector relies heavily on skilled labor, including healthcare professionals and managerial staff, to operate effectively. Labor shortages, partly exacerbated by stringent immigration policies, can impact the quality of care and services provided. This shortage also inflates wages and operating costs, squeezing profit margins further.

    3. **Technological Adaptations**: Integrating advanced technologies for healthcare and operational efficiency is becoming increasingly necessary. However, the cost of adopting these technologies can be high, and there can be resistance from both staff and residents due to the change in routine and the learning curve associated with new systems.

    4. **Resident Satisfaction and Retention**: Maintaining high levels of resident satisfaction is critical, as it impacts the reputation and attractiveness of a retirement village. Negative publicity from issues like disputes over fees, service quality, or contractual disagreements can deter potential residents and influence investor confidence.

    5. **Environmental and Sustainability Issues**: There's a growing pressure on all sectors, including retirement villages, to adopt more sustainable practices. This includes better waste management, energy efficiency, and environmentally friendly building practices, which may require significant investment.

    These challenges require strategic management and forward planning to ensure long-term sustainability and profitability in the retirement village sector. Addressing them effectively can also create opportunities for differentiation and competitive advantage in a growing market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ValueNZ View Post
    I'm working at a supermarket stacking shelves from the afternoon until midnight. Nothing fancy but it works in well with university, still in the privileged situation to be able to invest nearly all of my wage.

    That is legendary!

    Imagine if you were doing 50 hours a week at the supermarket and the rest of the time actually learning about investing rather than learning BS.

    That said, I think the degree will be an asset worth having, not for what you learn but for the doors it opens.

    That said, 3 or 4 years working and learning instead of working part time and learning BS would also open a lot of doors.

    Just think after all this effort, you'll be attacked by Communists and decried by those who have less than you as an oppressor.

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