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  1. #3871
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    Why has genesis taken a hit over the last few weeks ? Haven't been following. Is it Esg concerns after they said they are going to stockpile coal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Why can't the govt compensate rio to shut down the aluminium smelter during days of high demand.
    You have been sleeping for too long Panda. It is no longer 1977. The power system is now run at arms length from the government with a bid/offer system open to all generators, with Transpower keeping a watching brief and 'jawboning' when necessary (such as this morning). Tiwai have a supply contract with Meridian/Contact. They are already being compensated for having agreed to shut down operations at peak demand time by the lower unit price they pay at other times.


    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Or.. fast track the withdrawal.
    Tiwai are no longer planning to go is the word.

    And sorry to be the one to break this news to you. But Rob Muldoon is no longer leading the National party or the government. In fact, he has died.

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    Sorry for coming up with ideas to keep the lights on in NZ, Snoops.

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    How about healthy modern homes. We haven't turned the heat on at home yet even though there's been a couple of frosts.

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    My house is similar to an old garden shed. Was freezing this morning. Can't complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdn View Post
    My monster Rinnai gas heater is doing the business at the moment. I'm doing my best to take pressure off the electricity market which appears to be out of control just now.

    Burning barrels of oil(edit: diesel) at Whirinaki is expensive!
    Burning diesel again today. That's going to hurt the hip pocket

    And is a great illustration of the need for thermal to back up renewables. And the more renewables, the more back up that is needed. But I doubt any new thermal plants would get resource consent

    Also shows the folly of cancelling Lake Onslow, which would have been the perfect back up for renewables (in 10 years when Huntly rankines are retired)

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    Anyone heard anything on how the Kupe KS 9 results are going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy View Post
    Anyone heard anything on how the Kupe KS 9 results are going?
    Letter to the editor from 'Steven Nichols' an 'Engineer working in the energy sector" in the May 16th 2024 issue of the Christchurch Star

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    New offshore gas exploration is unnecessary creating complex issues and serious financial risks for New Zealand.

    Onshore gas exploration is not currently banned and there is no domestic need for new offshore supplies. Modelling commissioned by MBIE for the Gas Transition Plan has shown that we can meet current gas demand for residential commercial and industrial purposes from onshore supplies and investment. Offshore gas supplies have traditionally been underpinned by larger petrochemical users such as Methanex and cost more to develop than onshore supplies.

    Reopening offshore oil and gas exploration is inconsistent with our Paris Agreement targets and our free trade agreement with the EU (which require us to meet our Paris targets). Failure to meet both has serious financial implications for New Zealand in the form of penalties and purchasing offshore carbon credits. Pursuing new offshore gas exploration will cost New Zealanders more money in the long run and make it harder to meet our decarbonisation targets.

    The near grid emergency on the morning of May 9th was less about gas supplies and more about an early cold snap, combined with 700MW of generation undergoing scheduled maintenance. It was an issue of capacity, not shortage of energy.

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    KS 9 has already been drilled. They were working on how to get the best flow rates out of it.

    NZO has publicly stated that is makes more sense to spend shareholders money in Australian onshore wells and 'shipping' it to NZ for a better return.

    The Kupe Drills had been committed to years ago to try and extend the life of Kupe. This is still GNEs baby and they need to make the most of it, for shareholders and NZ.

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