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    Retail investors have really capitulated with no buyers in TRA till $ 3.50 !! SPK at $ 4.25 and PGW at $ 1.54 ...see its 52 week high of $ 4.38 to current SP is not funny anymore ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    That was 50,000 NZ citizens out ,I thought there were 130,000 immigrants that came in on the other side of this . So basically a lot more renters.
    Most probably are not in a position to buy so property with Interest Rates where they are currently is going sideways imo.
    Yes net 52,000 Kiwis left last 12 months …..net 163,000 non-Kiwis arrived
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    Last edited by winner69; 15-05-2024 at 03:55 PM.
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    aus budget was pretty generous to everyone. might make more kiwi's leave and with less coming in less demand for housing and retail spending etc. NZ might have a hard landing maybe thats what being priced in by the stockmarket a depression in corporate profits
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    Quote Originally Posted by alokdhir View Post
    Retail investors have really capitulated with no buyers in TRA till $ 3.50 !! SPK at $ 4.25 and PGW at $ 1.54 ...see its 52 week high of $ 4.38 to current SP is not funny anymore ....
    NZX is completely cooked!

    Of that list I have SPK at slightly underwater and rekt on PGW (only bought a week or 2 ago!).

    Waiting patiently for TRA to come down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    just well you not trader eh. anyway only about 8 stocks holding the main index up. you might call it fake news as under the hood last 3 mths most stocks are getting savaged. esp small cap index in nz down 15%
    FPH, MEL, CEN, ATM in the top 20 and who else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaa View Post
    FPH, MEL, CEN, ATM in the top 20 and who else?
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    fph has the biggest weight in the index up 19% last 3 mths a2 is up 25% and is in the top 10 by weight so whole market is looking way better than it should to concentration in a few stocks. NZ mag 8 lol

    actually you could argue maybe its because most there business off-shore or they have dominant positions ?
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    Don't tell anyone - but these Stonks seem to be getting popular again -

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...OVYMQTDOK46DM/

    GameStop and AMC shares surge for second day in ‘meme stock’ revival


    Any guesses on which large Capital Funds might lose their pants on shorts this time round ?
    Last edited by nztx; 15-05-2024 at 05:40 PM.

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    By the way US stocks and bonds are behaving just before April CPI ...most likely its on target or not too much variation from consensus ...will know in few hours !!
    Last edited by alokdhir; 16-05-2024 at 05:48 AM.

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    @alokdhir, yes it's exciting. I shouldnt find it so interesting but I do. Its much more interesting than sports that's for sure.

    One good thing about being highly diversified across world markets is that from 10am to 8am the next day, ones net worth is changing by the minute. I just look and don't touch, mind.

    Its a lot more fun than the pokies.

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    actually you could argue maybe its because most there business off-shore or they have dominant positions ?[/QUOTE]

    I think that this is very valid - perhaps not the right thread but this is why KFL is not the dog that many commentators think it is - 49% of KFL is FPH/MFT/IFT and these 3 overall probably have about 80% of their business offshore (and in the case of IFT much of the NZ business is effectively offshore funded e.g. datacentres). On top of that fully-imputed div and 33% tax rate (well the portion that is not capital gain) as well as a healthy discount to nta. KFL share price up 1c YTD nta up 3c and a dividend of 2% nta paid too.

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