More Green's Bull Shi!

[Balance]

Darleen Tana Goneburger?

Why the deafening silence from Swarbrick & Davidson?

Notice she is not on the Green Party website anymore?

https://www.greens.org.nz/our_people

[777]

Darleen Tana Goneburger?

Why the deafening silence from Swarbrick & Davidson?

Notice she is not on the Green Party website anymore?

https://www.greens.org.nz/our_people

I am pretty sure that they came out and said they were removing her from their website. Something about it may confuse people if she was there.

[mistaTea]

I am pretty sure that they came out and said they were removing her from their website. Something about it may confuse people if she was there.

Bang on. She is suspended from the Party at the moment too, so it would be misleading if they left her on there.

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The Green Party removed Darleen Tana from their website following allegations of migrant exploitation involving her husband's company, E Cycles NZ. These allegations led to her suspension from the party and an independent investigation being launched to determine her knowledge and involvement.

The allegations first came to light when Tana reported a complaint to the Employment Relations Authority (ERA) on February 1. Subsequently, a second complaint was received on February 9, which also implicated Tana. The Green Party decided to remove her from her small business portfolio but did not immediately publicize the suspension to allow for a fair process [oai_citation:1,Green MP Darleen Tana suspended amid migrant exploitation claims | RNZ News](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...itation-claims) [oai_citation:2,
Suspended Green MP, Darleen Tana, has been removed the Party's website - 08-May-2024 - NZ Politics news
](https://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/artic...?id=398043&tst).

The decision to remove Tana from the party's website was made to avoid misleading the public while the investigation is ongoing and to ensure up-to-date contact information and portfolios are available for the public. The independent investigation, conducted by Barrister Rachel Burt, aims to clarify what Tana knew about the allegations and when she knew it [oai_citation:3,What the Green Party knew, and what next for MP Darleen Tana | RNZ News](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-in...p-darleen-tana) [oai_citation:4,'Deeply serious allegations': Green MP suspended amid migrant exploitation investigation](https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...-darleen-tana/).

[Balance]

Thanks 777 & mT for clarification.

[nztx]

How's the Green's enquiry into the Man of many Qualifications going ?

Another one just merely deleted from their website too ?

[causecelebre]

Bang on. She is suspended from the Party at the moment too, so it would be misleading if they left her on there.

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The Green Party removed Darleen Tana from their website following allegations of migrant exploitation involving her husband's company, E Cycles NZ. These allegations led to her suspension from the party and an independent investigation being launched to determine her knowledge and involvement.

Yet the tax payer is still funding her pay while being suspended. Its now around 8 weeks and nothing but tumble weeds. Outrageous. Are they hoping we will forget?

[mistaTea]

Yet the tax payer is still funding her pay while being suspended. Its now around 8 weeks and nothing but tumble weeds. Outrageous. Are they hoping we will forget?

Yes, I understand the outrage. But important that Darleen is treated the same as any other MP would be if under investigation.

The pressure is on The Greens to be mindful of Darleen still being paid to wrap up the investigation, while still ensuring the process is fair.

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In New Zealand, if a Member of Parliament (MP) is suspended pending an investigation, the situation is handled differently compared to typical employment situations. Here’s a detailed look at what happens:


1. **Parliamentary Privileges and Responsibilities**: MPs are elected officials, and their terms and conditions of service are governed by the rules of Parliament and the laws of New Zealand, rather than by standard employment contracts.


2. **Types of Suspensions**:
- **Parliamentary Suspension**: If an MP is suspended from the House of Representatives due to misconduct or breaches of parliamentary rules (such as disorderly conduct during a session), this suspension is generally procedural and temporary. It is not typically associated with pay reduction, as MPs continue to receive their salaries during such suspensions.
- **Party Suspension**: An MP might be suspended from their party's caucus or roles within the party. This could mean loss of specific party duties or roles but not necessarily loss of salary unless the party decides otherwise.


3. **Investigations and Legal Proceedings**: If an MP is under investigation for legal or ethical issues:
- **Criminal Investigation**: If the investigation is related to criminal activities, the MP may face legal consequences based on the outcome. However, they would typically continue to receive their salary unless they are convicted and sentenced to imprisonment, at which point they would lose their seat in Parliament.
- **Ethical or Parliamentary Conduct**: If the investigation pertains to breaches of ethical standards or parliamentary conduct, the relevant parliamentary committee (such as the Privileges Committee) would handle it. The committee may recommend sanctions, which could include suspension. Again, this usually does not affect the MP’s salary unless specified by a resolution of Parliament.


4. **Salary and Allowances**: MPs in New Zealand are paid a salary and allowances as determined by the Remuneration Authority. There are no specific provisions for stopping an MP’s salary during investigations unless explicitly decided by parliamentary resolution or legal outcomes.


5. **Public Accountability**: MPs are accountable to the public and their constituents. If serious allegations are made, there may be pressure for the MP to step down or take leave, but this is a political decision rather than a formal employment suspension.


In summary, an MP in New Zealand generally continues to receive their salary during suspensions related to parliamentary conduct or investigations unless there is a specific parliamentary resolution or legal conviction that dictates otherwise. For precise information, consulting parliamentary rules, the Speaker’s office, or the Remuneration Authority would provide further clarification.

[mistaTea]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...GG3ZDLZLR5V7U/

It’s taken 8 weeks and counting so far, whereby Davidson thought it would take up to 4 weeks.

No good Davidson saying she doesn’t apologise for the investigation taking so long.

Darleen may well be entitled to full pay while the investigation is ongoing, but they need to be mindful of how taxpayers will feel the longer this drags on.

But then The Greens always have had a careless attitude to taxpayer money.

[causecelebre]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...GG3ZDLZLR5V7U/

It’s taken 8 weeks and counting so far, whereby Davidson thought it would take up to 4 weeks.

No good Davidson saying she doesn’t apologise for the investigation taking so long.

Darleen may well be entitled to full pay while the investigation is ongoing, but they need to be mindful of how taxpayers will feel the longer this drags on.

But then The Greens always have had a careless attitude to taxpayer money.

Yes, she's been out of parliament as long as she's been in this year according to that article.

[causecelebre]

So Genter's behaviour was considered "completely unacceptable" by her party leaders, yet with an apology and bit of de-escalation training to recognise fight or flight mode, she's good to go! Who cares about the abuse she hurled at members of the public. Apparently, she didn't recognise this as out of order. Sounds like she a perfect fit for the Greens. See you in parliament next week